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Offline Thompmd

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How many Routers do you have and why?
« on: May 16, 2020, 01:03 PM »
I have a buddy that had 9 at one time when he built cabinets for a living dedicating each to a profile /task.

I am going to purchase an OF1400 soon?
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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2020, 01:43 PM »
I have three routers but only one is a Festool.  Besides my 1400 - the one I regularly use - I have  Porter Cable 760 and a Porter Cable trim router.  Since I bought the 1400 the others have collected dust.

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Offline elm

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2020, 01:51 PM »
I have four that I use.  I use the 1010 for shelf pins, and some general easy routing, the 1400 for more 'heavy duty' routing with my 1/2 in bits, a porter cable that is mounted in my router table at all times and a Rigid palm router for trim and quick roundovers.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2020, 02:21 PM »
Just the one, a 23 year old DeWalt/Elu router for 8 mm bits that's still going strong.

I would love to add a 1400 but it's just too expensive for the limited use I have for it. Though I use my router pretty often it's mostly just bits up to 25 mm wide but not bigger.

 

Offline Roseland

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2020, 03:20 PM »
A total of five.  I started with a DeWalt DW621, which is great for some hand held work as the base is asymmetrical. The only downside is that the dust port is so high it tends to tip the router.

Then I wanted a 1/2" for a table and got a Triton MOF001, which I think is one of the best routers at any price for use upside down, with automatic spindle lock and through the table adjustment as standard.

The third purchase was an OF1400, because I wanted to be able to use 1/2" bits without taking the Triton out of the table each time.  I love the height adjustment system.

Then followed an OF1010 with edging accessories; these really add to its versatility.

Finally I inherited my father in law's Bosch POF 500, which I rarely use.

I like all of them, but they are so very different in their uses.

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Offline mrFinpgh

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2020, 03:22 PM »
I have four: OF1010, OF1400, Dewalt611, and a Milwaukee 5625.

The Milwaukee is basically dedicated to my router table, while the festools are used for anything involving plunge routing or edge trimming. 

The dewalt is great for things where the edge is narrow or the profile is just a roundover or chamfer.  I have also used it for things like very shallow mortises on doors for pulls.


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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2020, 04:05 PM »
N - 1 [big grin]

I have five currently. A Triton dedicated to my router table, anOF 1400, an MFK 700, a Ridgid trim router and a trusty Rusty Porter-Cable 690.

I can always use one more!  I keep thinking about the cordless Dewalt router because Festool doesn't have a cordless router! I also keep looking at the OF 1010, no particular reason
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Offline bkharman

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2020, 04:15 PM »
I had three (only blue and green is my 1400, which I love) but now am down to two. 1400 is the workhorse and a trim router for minor round overs etc. 

I really want a 2200 but might end up getting a spindle molder which would negate the need for me. We shall see.

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Offline ear3

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2020, 04:18 PM »
I think the bare minimum if you're looking to cover most of your bases is 3.  A dedicated table unit (Triton is a great option for the above the table adjustability), a heavy duty handheld one like the 1400 or 2200, and then more of a grab and go lighter duty router like the 1010.  Anything over 3 is good to have, but not absolutely necessary.  I prefer the 2200 to the 1400, but there are situations where I need the smaller footprint of the 1400 while running a 1/2" bit.   I don't use the MFK 700 all that much, though there are some people on the FOG who use it all the time and swear by it.  It has saved my bacon a couple of times set up with the vertical base and planing bit to level some surfaces.  The only regular use it gets now is when I'm edge banding.

I recently picked up a cordless Dewalt because I had to do some edge work in the field without access to power -- I really like the unit, and have recently taken to having it set up with a dedicated roundover bit when I'm using other routers.  I did get the plunge base accessory, though have yet to experiment with it in plunge mode, or even hooking it up to dust extraction for that matter.
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Offline rst

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2020, 04:44 PM »
Hello, my name is Steve and I am an addict.  I have six PCs, three Bosch and five Festool.  I'm afraid to count my sanders and saws.

Offline pettyconstruction

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2020, 04:52 PM »
I have 4
Porter-Cable 690
3- makita compact routers two are cordless and one corded.
I have a different round over bit in the cordless and a upcut in the corded.
I’m looking hard at a 1400 and another cordless makita.
Hate changing bits lol
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Offline Kevin D.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2020, 05:04 PM »
Hi, my name is Kevin and I'm a tool junkie.  I have at least a dozen routers.  Close to 30 drills.  I'm just a hobbiest/DIYer.  Just love tools.

Best router is the 1400.  I also have the MFK 700.  Always wanted the 1010 just for my 32mm Festool stuff. One day.
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Offline deepcreek

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2020, 05:46 PM »
I have eight and they all serve different roles depending on bit and material size. 

Two OF1010's, OF1400, OF2200, two Dewalt 611 trim routers (one is dedicated to inlaying our signature coins), Hitachi M12V (router table), and a Porter Cable laminate trimmer.

I'm not counting the Rotozip or Dremel even though they both have router base attachments.

Actually, two more if you include the ones inside the Porter Cable (Castle) benchtop pocket hole cutter.

My friend, Gary Katz, recommends having one more router than you have router bits!
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Offline ScotF

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2020, 05:52 PM »
I have 6 so far:

1010
1400
2200
MFK200

Bosch Colt Trim router

Milwaukee 5625 for table

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2020, 06:25 PM »
@rst you need help ROFL

1) I have the Ridgid R29303 2HP for the Jessem Router Table coming next week  [big grin],
2) Ridgid R24012 corded trim router,
3) Milwaukee cordless trim router,
4) Makita RT0701C on the CNC,
5) Dewalt DW616 as a spare for the CNC,
6) OF 1400 for handheld router other then trimming.

I will probably get a 3.5HP if the Ridgid do not hold for the tasks. The OF 1010 is also on my list.

« Last Edit: May 16, 2020, 06:47 PM by Mario Turcot »
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Offline pettyconstruction

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2020, 06:27 PM »
I have eight and they all serve different roles depending on bit and material size. 

Two OF1010's, OF1400, OF2200, two Dewalt 611 trim routers (one is dedicated to inlaying our signature coins), Hitachi M12V (router table), and a Porter Cable laminate trimmer.

I'm not counting the Rotozip or Dremel even though they both have router base attachments.

Actually, two more if you include the ones inside the Porter Cable (Castle) benchtop pocket hole cutter.

My friend, Gary Katz, recommends having one more router than you have router bits!
How do you like the Castle pocket machine? I’m in the market for one but the Kreg is about 1/3 the price


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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2020, 06:53 PM »
Hello, my name is Steve and I am an addict.  I have six PCs, three Bosch and five Festool.  I'm afraid to count my sanders and saws.

.. You should probably not count them! [big grin]
Again, I have a lot of collectible RC cars that I don’t count. Not insane amounts, but too many.

As a more of a newbie to routers, I have an old Makita 800W left from my father, my only experience with routers since investing in more..
A OF 1400 for the router table
A OF 1010 for handheld (unless need for the OF 1400)
A Makita 18V LXT handheld with all the bases. A fantastic and handy tool.

So that makes 4 already. Who knows..
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Offline rmhinden

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2020, 07:00 PM »
I have three routers, two that I use frequently and one not so much.

I started with a (now old) Ryobi 3hp plunge router and mostly used it in a home built router table. 

I upgraded to router table to a Kreg table/fence/router lift and put a Porter-Cable 7518 in the table.  A great combination.

About 18 months ago I added a OF1010.   That works well for me for general purpose hand held routing and is very capable with 8mm shank bits.   

The Ryobi hasn't been used since.   

Occasionally I look at the OF1400, I have had a project yet that the justified the cost.   At some point I might add a small trim router.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2020, 07:21 PM »
4 & why:

Bosch 2HP 1613AEVS -- Hand-held med. to large work (e.g. circle cutting) or Router table top (1/2" shanks)
Bosch Colt -- Hand-held small to med. work
Craftsman Sears (image) -- Router table top (1/4" shanks), small to med. work
Craftsman Super Router (1.5HP?) (image) -- Bought in a garage sale (in the 90s), rarely used, now collecting dust (with the Craftsman finish sander form the same garage sale) on the shelf...will be selling it after the pandemic

5, if the Dremel is counted as a router for grooving (image) and recess work (e.g. butterfly inlays, hinges, etc.).
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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2020, 07:54 PM »

How do you like the Castle pocket machine? I’m in the market for one but the Kreg is about 1/3 the price


Sorry to go far off topic.....

Wait on the new Castle 110 Pocket Cutter.  They will be coming out with a new one shortly (COVID is delaying release).  The new version, Model 110, has an improved router and MUCH improved clamping mechanism.  I just bought a Kreg Foreman, I will add the Castle machine when the new one is released.  The biggest advantage of the Castle is that it has a 6 degree angle vs the 15 degree of the Kreg.  With the Castle the problem of joint shift is nearly eliminated.  You can easily assemble the joints without clamping.

To be sure the Kreg is faster but the Castle is MUCH more accurate.  Do not get put off by the two step process of routing the pocket and then drilling the pilot hole.  I saw the original Castle 100 at IWF 2018 in Atlanta and thought the two step process was a deal breaker.  I saw the Model 110 early this year at The Woodworking Show in Indianapolis and came to understand the advantage of reduced screw angle and the new clamping mechanism. 
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Offline Thompmd

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2020, 07:55 PM »
Those of you that mentioned the 1400.... what makes it your favorite?
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Offline SoonerFan

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2020, 08:30 PM »
Currently I have an OF1400 and an MFK700.  Will soon be three as I am planning to get a router table and will get a dedicated router for the table.

I got the OF1400 first.  I choose this because at the time I only wanted one and felt it was the best over all option.  I added the MFK700 when I had a project to make a bunch of charcuterie trays.  The MFK700 was the prefect round over solution for me on that project.
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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2020, 08:34 PM »
Porter Cable trim router from when I used to do a lot of laminate work
Old Skil / Craftsman I've had forever that I can't get rid of but never use
OF1010 main go to router
Big old 1/2" Bosch for the heavy stuff on the rare occasions I need it
In terms of guys who have 5 or 10. I had a friend years ago who was a cabinet maker. Can't even say how many routers he had. His point though was that he would set up each / as many routers as he needed for a particular cabinet job that use them throughout that job. No switching bits between routers, no new adjustments, etc. For him having to change bits or re-adjust depth was just dumb and inefficient. So if a guy tells me he's got 10 routers my first question would be how long have you been a cabinet maker.
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Offline deepcreek

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2020, 08:40 PM »
How do you like the Castle pocket machine? I’m in the market for one but the Kreg is about 1/3 the price

I have the original Porter Cable version and prefer it to Kreg because of the lower angle holes.  Far less creep during assembly.
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Offline CeeJay

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How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2020, 08:54 PM »
I have three.

An OF1400 which I’ve only had 6 months. Love it so far.

A Makita trim router which I also love. So easy to use.

A Makita RP2301 which is going into the router table I’m building.

I sold my old Makita 3601B which I’d had for 10 years when I got the OF1400.

Not sure about the RP2301 for the table but bought it new in box as a bundle from a guy who had bought router/lift/fence etc but never started his table build so it was pretty cheap.

Just waiting on an NVR switch and I’ll get started on the router table conversation to my PM2000 extension table.


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Offline Jim_in_PA

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2020, 09:01 PM »
PC7518 in my cast iron table. OF1400 and OF1010 from Festool. Dewalt DW618 kit with three bases. I used to also have a PC 7529 plunge router, but I gave it to a friend. Hand-held, I mostly use the OF1400 and DW618 with the fixed base. Sometimes that fixed base is the better choice for stability and micro adjustment. Today, the OF1400 got the nod for cutting out a window opening in thick faux door skins for a home improvement project.
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Offline cpw

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2020, 10:24 PM »
I have six.  I was at 5 until I started getting into the Festool routers; but gave away a 2 1/4 Craftsman plunge/fixed/d-base set after I added the Festools.

(1) A 3hp Porter Cable in the Table
(2) A small Dewalt trimmer (611) which is great for small chamfers and roundovers
(3 & 4) Two Dewalt 618s.  One is generally setup for the dovetail jig.  Not having to change the dovetail setup if you are doing a bunch of drawers saves a ton of time, but also having two routers for different profiles even if not a dovetail is useful.  Having the extra router be identical to the first is convenient because you can share extras like the guide rail attachment.
(5) I got a OF1010 for the LR32 system, but have also used it for a bit of edge profiling as well.  There is a fancy version of the Fastcap Little Lipper that makes flush trimming solid edge banding pretty easy and provides good dust collection/guarding while doing it.
(6) I managed to snag an OF2200 from the recon sale.  This is now my favorite handheld router, and the DW618s are gathering dust - except for the occasional dovetail setup.

Offline xedos

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2020, 10:50 PM »
dammit, I just get out of the sanders anonymous meeting yesterday.

Now I've got to sign up for routers anonymous. 

Craftsman small 1hp    - still has the best ergonomics, switch and depth adjustment of any small router I've used. Too bad it's not variable speed

Craftsman 2hp - with the internal dust blower contraption.  Bought on a lark before vacuum attachments were a thing.  Pretty much useless.

Bosch 1450  - was the first good plunge router I got.
Bosch GFK12- interesting little 12v palm router. Makes a mess though.

Porter Cable 890 x2 -  one in a router table , and one handheld with fixed& plunge bases
Porter Cable 7529 - mostly for circles. Dust collection rivals Festool.

DeWalt 618 - three base kit.  Mostly use the D-handle. 
DeWalt 611 - sweet little plunge router.

Rotozip - strictly not a router , but I've got one setup with a spiral bit and their clear dust shroud base for cutting outlet boxes in cabinets.  Dust collection is far superior to any Festool router.

Festool 1010 - this gets used a lot.
Festool 1400- didn't like it and sold it on.

Dremel with the micro plunge base for tiny inlay work.




Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2020, 10:52 PM »
Sweet old Stanley 1/4” with a nice wide base
Big old Hitachi plunge router with just a single scary speed
Classic Porter Cable trim router, short and squat
Three Bosch trim routers with multiple bases (pre Colt) but two have bad bearings
Two Ridgid trim routers one better than the other
Makita single speed similar to the Stanley but all plastic
Makita cordless trim router
Small Milwaukee 1/2”
Medium size Milwaukee 1/2” plunge kit
Two medium size Bosch 1/2” one in a portable table and the other plunges
PC7518 in lift in cast iron table and a spare backup 7518 in a carton
Three OF1000
OF2200

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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2020, 02:27 AM »
12


Started with with a 2hp Makita which I moved back and forth between router table and handheld use.  That lasted a couple of years until I got a router lift and put it in my shop-made router table.  I didn't want to take the Makita in and out of the lift, so I got a Bosch 2 1/4Hp router.  I got tired of switching that between the fixed and plunge bases, so got another, and then found yet another one with a D handle (used) which I like for dovetail jigs.  (that's 4)


Then I got a Bosch Colt because they are so easy to handle with smaller bits doing more detailed work.  I liked it so well, and got so tired of switching bits and setups, and then having to try to re-create setups, that I got a second Bosch Colt, and then a Rigid trim router.  So that set of routers served me well for maybe 10 years.  (up to 7)


Then my router lift started getting a bit weird to adjust, so I got a newer one, improved the dust collection, and put a PC beast in the new lift.  Around the same time I got a new DeWalt trim router because I thought the plunge base would be nice.  (now at 9)


In the last couple of years, enamored with Festool dust extraction capabilities, I added a 2200 to the arsenal, and the dust extraction is phenominal.  Based on that experience, I also added a 1400 and an MFK 700.  (now at 12)


Finally, this year I got the Milwaukee M18 cordless.  As I looked how to consolidate accessories to give me flexible setup, I managed to winnow out the Rigid.  (still at 12)


For router table use, I'll keep the PC and Makita routers, as I can now field 2 router tables if the need arises, and if I use rail and style bits or other bit sets that require the two setups to be coordinated, I would want to be able to do that.  The PC will get the bulk of the work, but the Makita is there when I need it.


For large handheld use, the 2200 is brilliant for clean routing, but the 1400 is easier to handle.  Between the two of them, they can do everything that my Bosch 2 1/4 routers can do, and they do it with less mess and with silky smooth operation.  Plus the supported Festool accessories add a lot of flexibility which I either have cobbled together, or would have to, for the Bosch routers.  I may offload the Bosch routers in the next year, but I do have a Micro Fence custom base on one of the Bosch routers that gets a fair amount of use, so I'll need to get adapters for the 2200 and 1400.  Micro Fence is a big deal for me.  The Micro Fence circle jig supports large diameter circle cutting - I've done one piece that had nearly a 2' radius.  The Micro Fence fence is the best fence that I've ever used.


For trim routing, I'll probably keep all of them, but right now I am super impressed by the utility of the Milwaukee cordless router.  Being free of a cord means that I can easily use it outdoors, which I like to do in good weather.  The Bosch Colt, DeWalt, and MFK 700 routers will get used for extra setups on projects that require them.  The DeWalt stays because of the plunge base.  The MFK 700 has some specialized uses that the other routers don't, so I'll probably save it primarily for those uses.


If you haven't seen it in operation, the Milwaukee M18 cordless router is awesome.  Things I particularly like:
  • The adjustments are positive and precise.
  • The motor break is awesome.  In theory it does not stop instantly, but in practice it might as well.
  • Dust collection is very good.
  • Other features are comparable to other trim routers on the market.
  • Runtime is suitable for more trim routing tasks, as long as you are not running it for long periods on end.  I'm using 5 Ah batteries and did not run out the battery while chamfering a project.
  • The only real disappointment is that there is no plunge base (yet).
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Offline thudchkr

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2020, 06:06 AM »

If you haven't seen it in operation, the Milwaukee M18 cordless router is awesome.  Things I particularly like:
  • The adjustments are positive and precise.
  • The motor break is awesome.  In theory it does not stop instantly, but in practice it might as well.
  • Dust collection is very good.
  • Other features are comparable to other trim routers on the market.
  • Runtime is suitable for more trim routing tasks, as long as you are not running it for long periods on end.  I'm using 5 Ah batteries and did not run out the battery while chamfering a project.
  • The only real disappointment is that there is no plunge base (yet).

Am looking real hard at picking up that M18 cordless. While looking at it, they also showed me the plunge base. 
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-10-5601
They also now have separate kis that come with the different bases, (offset and/or plunge).

I currently have the big PC beast in my router table, in a lift, and have a PC 690 that gets used with a dovetail jig. A Dewalt 617 that also pretty much lives with the dovetail jig, while a Makita 1100 resides with the Leigh MFT. A Bosch Colt with plunge base used to handle all the smaller handheld tasks, but got usurped when I started getting the Festool offerings.

My first Festool was the 1400, then picked up the MFK 700, the 2200 and finally the 1010. The Festools pretty much took over all the non-dedicated tasks which means I get to leave the others set up for specific purposes.

Pretty sure I’ll be acquiring that M18 though. The appeal of having a cordless router, and huge investment already in the Milwaukee M18, (and M12), lineup make for a good addition to the stable.
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Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2020, 09:06 AM »
As evident from my signature I am not ashamed to admit that I own every model of the current Festool router line up, except the 1400. And that one may be in the shop soon. Collections need to be complete, right?

Why I own two MFK 700’s? I happened upon a bare and barely used second hand machine that was very cheap, but discovered that buying the accessories separately was as expensive as buying a Set. So I bought a Set & to even things out I bought the lone MFK 700 its own Systainer and insert AND a guide of its own.
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Offline StanB

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2020, 09:55 AM »
I have the 1010, 1400, 2200, and two cordless Dewalt trim routers.

I have one Dewalt set up with a white side round over and the other is left for flex setups. I would like to buy 2-3 more of these for other setups. Cheap as chips and really good router.

For corded activities I reach for the 2200. It is flat out a joy to use and I find it the most stable to use. I use the 1010 for the lr32 and odd trim jobs. 1400 comes out when I do multiple ops or just want to change it up. Overall I use them all interchangeably.
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Offline StanB

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2020, 09:58 AM »
Also I have the micro fence and adapters for all the routers. Best investment ever. Love the fence and circle jig.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2020, 10:10 AM »
Micro Fence is a big deal for me.  The Micro Fence circle jig supports large diameter circle cutting - I've done one piece that had nearly a 2' radius.  The Micro Fence fence is the best fence that I've ever used.

If you haven't seen it in operation, the Milwaukee M18 cordless router is awesome. 
  • The only real disappointment is that there is no plunge base (yet).


I echo the Micro Fence recommend, that system is very slick. Adjuster backlash is in the .001" area. They also offer a metric adjuster as well. I have the adapters to use the Micro Fence on my Festool 1010, 1400 & 700. I'd suggest anyone new to router use, take a close look at the Micro Fence before you purchase the normal router accessories and then move on to the Micro Fence system anyways...money saved.

I've also always had a few Milwaukee routers laying around. I still like them because they're bullet proof. However, as good as their routers are, the available Milwaukee plunge bases have always been horrific. The plunging action is sticky, the internal spring/springs are too stiff and they make a horrible thunk when they hit the upper stop.  [mad]

I'd suggest trying the Milwaukee plunge base in person before you take the leap.

I'm also thinking about the new Milwaukee M18 router...it seems really nice.  [smile]

Offline Imemiter

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2020, 11:39 AM »
I've also got a beautiful old Stanley. My mentor talked me into buying it. I actually still use it sometimes. Spins like a top. No photos to upload but here's a link:
https://i.imgur.com/uDcnMwV.jpg

My most used are two Bosch, a 1613 and a 1617. Then the two Makitas, an offset trimmer and the 18v cordless. I've also got another short, sturdy Porter Cable trimmer that hasn't seen a lot of use. I was surprised to find so few routers putting together inventory recently. In the past two years I've sold two PCs and a Ryobi. I love routers, but I've never had a Festool. I'll have to remedy that someday.
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Offline Thistleman

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2020, 04:40 PM »
To answer the question what do I use my routers for is simple cutting lots of different profiles an having set fences etc not having to adjust these if I want to use a different cutter

Festool. OF2200, 0F1400X2, OF1010, MFK700
Elu. MOF99E
Makita. DRT50 18V X2
Bosch. GKF 12V
Draper. For use in router table
AUKTools V3 for use in router table


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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2020, 06:18 PM »

I've also always had a few Milwaukee routers laying around. I still like them because they're bullet proof. However, as good as their routers are, the available Milwaukee plunge bases have always been horrific. The plunging action is sticky, the internal spring/springs are too stiff and they make a horrible thunk when they hit the upper stop.  [mad]

I'd suggest trying the Milwaukee plunge base in person before you take the leap.

I'm also thinking about the new Milwaukee M18 router...it seems really nice.  [smile]

I strikes me, as my very old Makita router has slightly better plunge action than my newest routers. To me it seems strange that the industry seems to rely on the same mechanics/glide bushings since, well... a very long time ago. I know that the progress of gliding bearings and bushings have come a long way since - a long time ago  [huh]
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2020, 07:05 PM »
....
Am looking real hard at picking up that M18 cordless. While looking at it, they also showed me the plunge base. 
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-10-5601
They also now have separate kits that come with the different bases, (offset and/or plunge).
...


I see another tool order coming in my future...

Offline jjowen

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2020, 09:55 PM »
Asked me three days ago and I would have given a different answer; A pin on the plug-it connector on my OF 1010 broke! I got the OF 1400 out of the CMS and started using it the right way up for the first time! She looked brand new once I vacuumed all the dust out. I love the extra weight and power.
Anyway, I took the 1010 to get repaired and purchased the replacement part 574351 while I was there.

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Offline Cochese

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2020, 11:41 AM »
OF 1400 - LR 32 use, other main non-router table tasks
OF 1010 - mainly for flush trimming hardwood banding, but I should figure out ways to use it more
Dewalt 611PK - my main small router, recently upgraded with a Festool plug-it conversion. A small detail router needs a light.
Ryobi 18v trim router - haven't really used since I got my DeWalt, but I should throw it in my away kit.

(2) Triton TRA001 - router table use. One chuck is crossthreaded, thus the need for a second one. Once the parts factory comes back on line and I can replace the chuck I'll figure out a use for the second one.

No plans for any additional.

Offline Kevin C.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2020, 11:12 PM »
 At last count I had 14 routers. Mostly Dewalt 616/618s. A couple Dewalt 621s in tables. A 611 in the cnc and a few Bosch colts that never have the bits swapped out.  The most common bits (champfers and 1/8 roundover) just stay in a couple routers. One table is dedicated to a 3/16 flush bit to cut the skins off cnc cut parts.
 I haven't gotten a Festool router yet, but a 1010 is on my list. The dust collection being integrated on a festool vs the Oneida attachments I currently use is what may push me over the edge to buy one.

Offline GilbertV

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2020, 11:27 PM »
I have a total of 15 routers.  I have 3 Porter Cable 7518 3 1/4 hp each on a dedicated Jessem Mast- R-Lift that I use a stile bit, a coping bit and a table edge bit that are set up for doing cabinet doors.  I have a PC 690 router on a plunge base, 5 Porter  Cable 2-1/4 on either a fixed or plunge base plus a 6th one on a Jessem router plate.  Two Dewalt 611 routers on a fixed and plunge base set up with round over  bits. Also a Dewalt 610 router set up for my Leigh dovetail jig. 
I have a Bosch Colt that rarely used and will probably go to a nephew just starting to do Woodworking.   Lastly I have Dewalt 618 router with both a fixed and plunge base. 

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2020, 12:13 AM »
@GilbertV   seems like I might have a few more routers than you but your fleet definitely outweighs mine.  [big grin]

Offline Vancouver Pete

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2020, 06:54 AM »

3 A Bosch GMF 1600 the fixed base lives under the router table and the router alternates between that and the plunge base.

Bosch GKF 600 palm router

Recently acquired Triton 2400 watt to mount permanently in the router table which needs some small mods to the UKJ mounting plate which is why it isn't already there [mad]

Offline Master Carpenter

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2020, 07:15 PM »
Mfk 700. For edging, obviously
Of1010.  Primary for the lr33 setup
2 - bosch 1617 fixed/plunge kits, one in the table, one for handheld.
2-3 Bosch colts. Cheap disposable routers the way I use them. Mostly in jigs.
The router in my shaper origin
A makita trim router in my shapeoko.

I have 2 router tables, a big Bosch one they haven’t sold in years and my big incra ts setup.

I’d like to get a more powerful dedicated motor for my router table(S). And if either of the bigger Festool routers ever popped up at a great price, I’d get one.

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2020, 08:30 PM »
In chronological order:
An old Sears Craftsman, hardly ever used
A Bosch 1617 or equivalent, now in a Woodpeckers lift
An Elu > 25 years old, hardly ever used
A Festool 1400
A Bosch Colt - hardly used
A DeWalt mini with plunge base—to go to my son because i now have a cordless Makita
A barely used 1100
Have been doing more acquisition than use but now getting my workshop together
Maybe should think about listing in Classified?

Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2020, 02:24 AM »

Hey @thudchkr ...

....
Am looking real hard at picking up that M18 cordless. While looking at it, they also showed me the plunge base. 
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-10-5601
They also now have separate kits that come with the different bases, (offset and/or plunge).
...


I see another tool order coming in my future...


Got it :).  Thanks for the pointer.


I also got the MicroFence adapters for my Festool routers.

Offline savsuds

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2020, 08:02 PM »
Three.

Router Table
5mm Shelf pin and system 32 hole maker.
Trim router for chamfers/round overs.
Hobbyist just trying to have fun and not let my OCD ruin it for me.

Offline PaulMarcel

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2020, 10:08 PM »
Hmm... in order with why...

Makita 2 1/4 hp RF1101 fixed/plunge router that is now in the table; did a lot of freehand with it, too, before "green"
Festool OF1400, which is likely my favorite
Veritas Router Plane, because fine-fitting dados need it
Festool OF700, that is exclusively used for edge banding
Festool OF2200, that I really should use more than the OF1400, but is currently in the CMS, which is a gorgeous second table
Foredom rotary router tool, for grinding, fine shaping, and especially inlay with a base (the Veritas base is amazing btw)
Foredom rotary router tool, a second one because it came as a package deal on a OneWay lathe... m'okay...

I guess I'm behind on power routers. The 1010 has been very tempting at times due to low weight despite the chuck limitations. At this point, though, what would be more useful is a cordless router with 1010 features. Keep it chucked up with a roundover or chamfer bit and will use it all day. When will there be a green one? Makita and Milwalkee have some tempting offerings (at least I'm on a Makita battery platform for some other tools)

We're all far far far behind Charles Neil (RIP...) The last number I had from him was 75. He literally left them chucked with the correct depth.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2020, 10:57 PM »
“what would be more useful is a cordless router with 1010 features. Keep it chucked up with a roundover or chamfer bit and will use it all day. When will there be a green one? Makita and Milwalkee have some tempting offerings (at least I'm on a Makita battery platform for some other tools)”

@PaulMarcel  Go ahead and get the cordless Makita for chamfer and round over work. You don’t need a plunge router for those bits.

But get the OF1010 too. It’s really sweet. I have three OF1000 and seldom bother using anything else.

Offline PaulMarcel

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2020, 11:01 PM »
“what would be more useful is a cordless router with 1010 features. Keep it chucked up with a roundover or chamfer bit and will use it all day. When will there be a green one? Makita and Milwalkee have some tempting offerings (at least I'm on a Makita battery platform for some other tools)”

@PaulMarcel  Go ahead and get the cordless Makita for chamfer and round over work. You don’t need a plunge router for those bits.

But get the OF1010 too. It’s really sweet. I have three OF1000 and seldom bother using anything else.

Oh definitely a plunge base isn't necessary (but useful for when you want to do some other work). You're trying to get me to get a 1010 I can see that... :) I'm okay with it haha!
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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2020, 10:28 AM »
For you router lover

quick and easy jig/accesory to make.
Mario

Offline Cypren

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2020, 06:09 PM »
Bosch 1617, permanently table-mounted; this was the first router I bought years ago when just starting out, and it still works great
MFK700 - for edging, obviously
Milwaukee M18 cordless - mostly because I already have a heavy investment into Milwaukee's lineup
Festool OF 1010 - exclusively used with guide bushings
OF 1400 - general-purpose handheld router, typically the first thing I reach for; also used with the LR32 kit
OF 2200 - The Beast, for tasks none of the others can do; so heavy and cumbersome it rarely comes out of its box

Of the bunch, the OF 1400 and the Bosch see the most use by a wide margin. I thought I would wind up using the M18 more than I actually do: while cordless convenience is nice, the reality is that it's rare that I'm doing something with a router where I don't want dust collection hooked up as well. The others are specialized tools for niche needs.

Offline JimD

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2020, 12:06 PM »
6 but I only regularly use 4.  I have an old 13.3A Ryobi plunge router motor in my router table.  I have two PC 690 routers with 4 bases (two hand held, one D handle, and one plunge).  And I have a Bosch Colt for light work.  I also have an old Craftsman and a J. C Penney router.  Neither of the last two has a decent collet so they only get used if there is a decent chance of damage - like when I routed a slot in a piece of pressure treated in my driveway.  I will probably buy a DeWalt plunge router (the model that used to be made by Elu) so I don't have to move a PC motor into the plunge base.  I keep a 690 set up to do half blind dovetails most of the time.  The other one does hand held work that the colt is too small for.  The DeWalt/Elu has built in dust collection. 

Offline Papajoe

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2020, 04:11 PM »
my festool 2200 is mounted in cms vl table, festool 1010 hand held and shelve pins. pc7518 in a cast iron table and incra lift, pc7518 in an incra table and woodpecker lift, pc890 with incra lift, 2 makita 18v routers. thats it!

Offline afish

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2020, 05:13 PM »
7 total but only one Festool (mfk) It will vary for all but a router is the one tool that I hate messing with to change bits guides etc.  So I have a mix of plunge, D-handle, and cordless trim all set up with different bits some have dedicated guides too.  I have to say the d-handle is my favorite style for general purpose.  I wish someone would make a cordless D-handle.  I just love the ease and controllability it offers. There's no thinking as soon as you grab it your finger is on the trigger ready to go. Easy to handle and control too. If someone offered a cordless version I would probably switch over most of them to that.  There are a few dedicated with larger bits that a cordless unit wouldn't be ideal for, but those are used less often.  For basic edge profiling bits I am dreaming of a cordless D-handle version one day.  If I needed a new bit for some reason I would most likely buy a router to go with it.  Most of my routers are $200 and under though I wouldn't be doing that with Festool routers. 

Offline Matthewajones

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2020, 06:44 PM »
All of them.  One of the older Italian gentleman who I was fortunate enough to work with, came from a town in Italy where he was told he was going to be a woodworker while still in elementary school.  This was in the early 1900's.  Everything was done by hand.  They went to the rendering facility to scrape hides to make their glue.  He immigrated to the US just as Italy was getting in to WW2.  He worked in different shops and started collecting tools.  He had many routers, if he needed a bit with a particular profile. he bought a router to go with it.  He had done everything by hand....and was tired of it.

Online woodferret

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2020, 08:47 PM »
I'm an oddball with just 2, non Festool.

Dewalt 611PK (I like it's size)

Bosch 1617EVS table mounted although a quick discharge of the motor gives me access to the 1/2" plunge base.

Both are equipped with their respective dust collection accessories so I haven't felt the need to go Festool just yet.  The metric collet's the only thing that I'm missing, but the Bosch has a 8mm available.

I'll probably add a Makita cordless trimmer for roundover profiles if retooling the 611 starts to annoy me more.

Offline afish

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2020, 10:07 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

Offline krudawg

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2020, 10:07 PM »
I have a buddy that had 9 at one time when he built cabinets for a living dedicating each to a profile /task.

I am going to purchase an OF1400 soon?
I have a Bosch Trim Router, Festool OF 1400 and a Triton 3 1/4HP.  I use the OF 1400 the most.  I really don't have strong router skills yet and because of that, my first choice to route something is my router table which has a Hitachi router in it
Ted
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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #61 on: October 20, 2020, 10:15 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

Thanks, this is really good to know about.

Online woodferret

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2020, 08:49 AM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

I'm actually surprised they have a 8mm for the DW611.  Thanks for the link.

Offline fignewton

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2020, 09:50 AM »
I have 4:
OF1400 as primary router, useful with LR32 as well
MFK700 for trim work like roundovers.  Both have exceptional dust collection, which I love.  For example, did roundovers on a bunch of pieces for a large table I’m building yesterday, and no need for cleanup afterward.  With my old Bosch Colt, it would have taken me 20 minutes to clean up all of the chips
Porter Cable 890 series with both bases.  I kept this one after buying the OF1400, to wait until I did some dovetails.  I have the 24” PC dovetail jig, and had gotten the D handle base to use on the 890.  After trying the OF for dovetails, I decided that I liked the PC with D handle much better from a control and watching the bit perspective.
Triton 3.5 hp in my Sommerfeld router table/cabinet.  May upgrade this one to a newer model with the top-adjust for height.
TS55, MFT3+, OF1400, C12, CT-26, LR-32 system, Domino 500, RO125, MFK 700, Carvex w/ accsy, Sys-roll,  CXS, Kapex, UG with extensions, RO90

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2020, 10:03 AM »
Four ..........

           700, 1400, 2200. PC 7518 motor in table.   Different routers / sizes for different tasks.
 
           1400 was first and only for years. If only keeping one this would be the one.

           Added the 700 to trim solid edge banding, but now use it for other light routing jobs such as small roundovers.  Plus it is handier for small pieces.

           Added 2200 when I needed to spin a large bit handheld. It is awesome for dados too.

     All of them have good DC. The 2200 DC even cleans out dados on the go.

Seth

Offline doug H

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2020, 10:08 AM »
Three:
1. Porter Cable PC 690 with 3 bases. First router - not used much anymore unless I need to use a 1/2 inch bit.
2. Bosch 1617 EVS. Sits in the router table - perfect for this task.
3. Festool OF-1010. Used for all handheld routing unless I need to use a 1/2 inch bit.

Still plan to get a OF-1400 one day.

Doug

Offline Gerald_D

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2020, 11:05 AM »
Well, I have too many of some and not enough of others:

- 2 PC7518s in router lifts
- 4 PC690s. 2 are setup for the dovetail jig and 2 are currently not used.
- 2200 in the CMSGE
-2 OF1400s
-2 OF1010s.  1 is always setup for the LR32.
-1 MFK700. 
-1 Bosch Pony.  Really like this but hate there’s no dust collection.

Someday would like to get another of each OF2200 and MFK700 but other priorities first.  I wouldn’t mind selling the 2 PC690s that I haven’t been using, so if you are interested, send me a PM.

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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2020, 02:30 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

I'm actually surprised they have a 8mm for the DW611.  Thanks for the link.

Indeed, just having any of the options is nice, but this was a good find.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2020, 06:50 PM »
I have a PC7518 in my router table and I also have a fixed base for it if I want to use it that way.  I've used smaller routers for router table use before and the PC7518 is far superior.  It has speed settings that are rpm, not meaningless numbers, and it has real power.

I use a Bosch colt for little roundovers and chamfers.  I use two PC690s (4 bases) for everything else.  Right now one of the motors is in a fixed base with a dovetail bit for half blind dovetails set up in it and the plunge base holds the other motor with a 3/4 straight bit to make dados.  I cut dados using the router attachment for my DeWalt track saw track.   

The router table has decent dust collection but the hand held routers make messes.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #69 on: October 21, 2020, 07:53 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

Is there any source for 8mm shank bits in US other than the few festool?

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2020, 08:21 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

I'm actually surprised they have a 8mm for the DW611.  Thanks for the link.

happy to help I can vouch that it is a great collet.  I just ordered one for my dcw600 which is basically the cordless version of the 611.  Just be careful when ordering there is only one letter difference between the full size dewalt collets and the trimmer sized ones.  I messed up my first order.  Also just FYI the shipping is somewhat slow so plan ahead.  takes about 8 days or so for them to get me a collet from ohio to florida with standard shipping. 

Offline afish

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2020, 08:46 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

Is there any source for 8mm shank bits in US other than the few festool?

If there is they are few and far between... I purchased the 8mm collet specifically to run in a dcw600 with a festool 499811.  I trim flush with the mfk and follow up with the dewalt cordless with the festool roundover.  both bits live permanently in each.  No thinking no adjusting just pick up and go.  While im sure festool routers are nice at the end of the day its just a router and I would rather have 8 dedicated routers that I dont have to mess around changing bits, guides and such then 1 or 2 expensive routers that I would need to change each time.  The Mfk is the only expensive router I have but its pretty specialized so its worth the price if you are going to trim a lot of edge banding.  My favs are DW621 for plunge (even though the trigger is a little funky) but the DC was ahead of its time.  PC D-handle and dewalt cordless trim router ( the makita is good too but I already have a bunch of Dewalt batteries) so the dewalt is my go to cordless. 

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2020, 08:47 PM »
I believe Lee Valley has some 8 mm bits.

Peter

Offline ferrij

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2020, 12:04 AM »
Festo OF1000, OF2000, Trend T3. No need for anything else. All easy to setup and use. All have great dust collection. Could not be happier.

JF

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2020, 10:51 AM »
All of the Festool Routers, a Bosch 1617EVS (both bases), Porter Cable 7518 (router table), Bosch Colt (set), and the Dewalt DCW600B(cordless compact router). These were purchased over a period many years or so. I have had others that burned up or failed. All time favorites: OF 2200 and the Dewalt.

You cannot have too many routers.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #75 on: October 22, 2020, 11:27 AM »
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Is there any source for 8mm shank bits in US other than the few festool?

yup !   Rob Lee has just about everything you could want.   If he doesn't, you probably don't need it.  [tongue]

Not easy to search or filter though - you gotta do a bit of sleuthing:

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/search?query=8mm+router+bit

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #76 on: October 22, 2020, 11:44 AM »
I think the only mm shank bits here are mostly festools and I think some of the dovetail jigs (leigh) use a metric bit.  However I think the dovetails might be also available in imperial (not 100% on that as I dont use one).  Just about every other bit I have ever needed OTHER than the Festool 1mm round over was available in a comparable imperial shaft.  Its odd Amana makes a 1/16 (1.5mm) and a 2mm but not the 1mm.  Just out of curiosity is there any router bits out there that you couldnt find with an imperial shaft?  Oh, I just thought of another one the 5mm or any of the boring bits always have a 10mm shaft regardless of who makes it.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #77 on: October 22, 2020, 12:10 PM »
There are lots of 8mm shank bits to be had here.  Festool has not cornered the market.

 I believe Leigh was using 8mm bits with an adapter long before FT started peddling router bits.   Leigh does offer some of their line in 1/2" shank, but that usually means a larger router.   8mm will fit in some compact routers that won't accept 1/2" shank.  The smaller routers are more comfortable to use with their jig.  8mm shanks afford a much beefier cutter.


On a 1-3mm diameter cutter, a larger diameter shank doesn't really bring much to the party.   It's those medium to larger diameter cutters that benefit to those that can't accept a 1/2 collet.  Like a t-slot, drawer lock or large radius roundover bit.




Anyone notice that PC has quietly discontinued most, if not all, of their routers ?
« Last Edit: October 22, 2020, 12:13 PM by xedos »

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #78 on: October 22, 2020, 12:13 PM »
Vortex Tooling have some.

https://www.vortextool.com/wood-tooling.html


Onsrud have a few.

https://www.onsrud.com/Series/52-400.asp


CMT has a ton of them in their European Catalog.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #79 on: October 22, 2020, 01:09 PM »
Just out of curiosity is there any router bits out there that you couldnt find with an imperial shaft?

The only non-Festool bit I ever looked at was a D=8mm upcut so I could cheap out and rout 8mm mortises without a DF500.  That said, Lee Valley sells imperial 5/16" tenon stock so this is low on my priority and more curiosity-sake.  Mostly though, if I get a 8mm collet, it'd more likely be for the FS hinge boring and 5mm stop bits.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2020, 07:18 PM by woodferret »

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #80 on: October 22, 2020, 05:58 PM »
ermm i have a festool of1010 router which is a decent machine for me. use it for a fair old variety of routering.

a makita rp2301 (i think) use it in the main for routering joints on laminate kitchen worktops.

i also have a little cheap trim router.

looking to get one of the dewalt 18v routers to basically take over some of the workt the festool router does and also the little cheap trim router. itd be easier for me with a battery powered router. they look a very good bit of kit too

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #81 on: October 22, 2020, 07:09 PM »
Just out of curiosity is there any router bits out there that you couldnt find with an imperial shaft? 

Think of it more as those of us who don't want to buy inch shaft bits.  3rd party metric collets means we can convert them to mm and not buy inch based bits.

I don't have many bits at this point, so not much of a loss, and having the 1/4" collet around means I still have something for emergencies.

Doesn't really solve the issue that all routers other than the festools have basically no dust collection.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2020, 05:19 PM »
2 pc 7518 in tables
1 of2200 in festool Vl table
1 pc 890 never opened
1 of 1010 hand use
1 makita 18v hand use
1 makita 1.25 hp

The 2200 is top, 1010 is great size:weight ratio

Offline xedos

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2020, 06:31 PM »
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Doesn't really solve the issue that all routers other than the festools have basically no dust collection.

This is simply not so.   :o

a few:   Some of them on par or better than Festool on some operations.

https://www.finewoodworking.com/2005/10/25/midsize-plunge-router-7529-review

http://www.tritontools.com/en-GB/Product/Power%20Tools/Routers/TRA001

http://www.insidewoodworking.com/porter_cable_routers.html  & the plung version:

https://flairwoodworks.com/2012/02/20/adapting-a-porter-cable-890-series-plunge-router-to-fit-a-festool-d27-dust-extraction-hose/

https://www.toolnut.com/dewalt-dw6182-plunge-base-for-dw616-618-routers.html

and this, available stateside well before any of y'all had ever heard of Festo or seen one of their routers.
https://www.factoryauthorizedoutlet.com/products/dewalt-dw621-2hp-electronic-variable-speed-plunge-router-tool-electric

In addition , most of the new cordless routers offer accessory shrouds and ports for dust collection.  Bosch has also offered ports for many of their fixed and plunge router for decades.  Again, before Festo was here selling routers.

Festool doesn't have a monopoly on router dust collection.  We can debate performance, effectiveness, pride of ownership, or even cost or utility of one vs. another; but other router dust collection options exist.

In spades.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2020, 09:16 PM »
My first was a Ryobi 2 or 2.25 Hp, cheaper router but it has plenty of power and a small craftsman kit motor that can be a d handle plunger angle grinder. It actually worked well but the attachments are not the most stable or sturdy feeling. Same with the ryobi it is a fine useful router but the adjustment for height is a coarse thread in a fixed base. No real fine tuning of depth. I dream of an1010 or 1400 and recently the new origin rig that thing looks sweet!
« Last Edit: November 17, 2020, 12:50 AM by Bertotti »
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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2020, 09:39 PM »
1. Porter Cable 7518 mounted in Bench Dog cast iron table for door parts etc.,
2. PC 893PK for general routing
3. DeWalt 20V trim router for round overs/chamfers/removing tabs on cnc parts
4. Avid 4824 Pro CNC Router with 2.2kW water cooled spindle.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2020, 09:44 PM by GigaWatt »

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2020, 08:40 PM »
A lot, but I use them in a cabinet shop. Many of them are set up for a dedicated job and only ever have the bit out to be replaced.
MFK 700, modified to trim 3/4" solid wood edges
OF1010 general light duty
OF1400 heavier general use
2 Milwaukee body grip one flush trim, one pattern
Porter Cable 890, least used one I own
Triton 3 HP in the table
4 Bosch colts each with a specific bit/task set up
2 Rigid 2400 each specific
Makita compact specific task
Makita compact cordless specific
So, it looks like 15? Some I don't use for days at a time, it just depends on the job at hand. Other times, like today, I could have 5 or 6 of them out at one time.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2020, 09:14 PM »
MFK 700, modified to trim 3/4" solid wood edges


Thanks @Crazyraceguy, could you list the bit you are using?  I am getting ready to do the mod to my MFK.  In the blog by @PaulMarcel, he indicated the Vortex 1322, which I have on order but wondering if there are any other options here.  Thanks.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2020, 12:47 AM »
I have enough that I need to count them every time I am asked.

#1 - a big Triton in my main router table
#2-4 - less user-friendly routers in a triple router table (article coming out soon in Canadian Woodworking Magazine)
#5-6 - Milwaukee kit routers with one plunge base and two fixed bases (one elliptical, one multi-offset; another article coming soon in Canadian Woodworking Magazine), used mostly with large diameter bits
#7 - OF 1010 for general and freehand routing
#8 - OF 1400 for general routing that the 1010 can’t handle
#9 - CNC spindle A for general CNC milling
#10 - CNC spindle for boring 1/8” holes (I make cribbage boards)

Think I got ‘em all. Oh, I have two router planes, too.
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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2020, 06:26 PM »
MFK 700, modified to trim 3/4" solid wood edges


Thanks @Crazyraceguy, could you list the bit you are using?  I am getting ready to do the mod to my MFK.  In the blog by @PaulMarcel, he indicated the Vortex 1322, which I have on order but wondering if there are any other options here.  Thanks.

The one I use came from Lee Valley. It has an 8mm shank, 3/4" diameter and IIRC 7/8" cut length. It just seemed like the bigger shank would be more solid when using most of the cut length.
on Lee Valley's website you can search by shank diameter, that's how I found it.
I'll take a pic of mine tomorrow.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 04:09 PM by Crazyraceguy »

Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #90 on: November 21, 2020, 08:29 AM »
I have 3 


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