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Offline krudawg

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2020, 10:07 PM »
I have a buddy that had 9 at one time when he built cabinets for a living dedicating each to a profile /task.

I am going to purchase an OF1400 soon?
I have a Bosch Trim Router, Festool OF 1400 and a Triton 3 1/4HP.  I use the OF 1400 the most.  I really don't have strong router skills yet and because of that, my first choice to route something is my router table which has a Hitachi router in it
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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #61 on: October 20, 2020, 10:15 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

Thanks, this is really good to know about.

Offline woodferret

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2020, 08:49 AM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

I'm actually surprised they have a 8mm for the DW611.  Thanks for the link.

Offline fignewton

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2020, 09:50 AM »
I have 4:
OF1400 as primary router, useful with LR32 as well
MFK700 for trim work like roundovers.  Both have exceptional dust collection, which I love.  For example, did roundovers on a bunch of pieces for a large table I’m building yesterday, and no need for cleanup afterward.  With my old Bosch Colt, it would have taken me 20 minutes to clean up all of the chips
Porter Cable 890 series with both bases.  I kept this one after buying the OF1400, to wait until I did some dovetails.  I have the 24” PC dovetail jig, and had gotten the D handle base to use on the 890.  After trying the OF for dovetails, I decided that I liked the PC with D handle much better from a control and watching the bit perspective.
Triton 3.5 hp in my Sommerfeld router table/cabinet.  May upgrade this one to a newer model with the top-adjust for height.
TS55, MFT3+, OF1400, C12, CT-26, LR-32 system, Domino 500, RO125, MFK 700, Carvex w/ accsy, Sys-roll,  CXS, Kapex, UG with extensions, RO90

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2020, 10:03 AM »
Four ..........

           700, 1400, 2200. PC 7518 motor in table.   Different routers / sizes for different tasks.
 
           1400 was first and only for years. If only keeping one this would be the one.

           Added the 700 to trim solid edge banding, but now use it for other light routing jobs such as small roundovers.  Plus it is handier for small pieces.

           Added 2200 when I needed to spin a large bit handheld. It is awesome for dados too.

     All of them have good DC. The 2200 DC even cleans out dados on the go.

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Offline doug H

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2020, 10:08 AM »
Three:
1. Porter Cable PC 690 with 3 bases. First router - not used much anymore unless I need to use a 1/2 inch bit.
2. Bosch 1617 EVS. Sits in the router table - perfect for this task.
3. Festool OF-1010. Used for all handheld routing unless I need to use a 1/2 inch bit.

Still plan to get a OF-1400 one day.

Doug

Offline Gerald_D

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2020, 11:05 AM »
Well, I have too many of some and not enough of others:

- 2 PC7518s in router lifts
- 4 PC690s. 2 are setup for the dovetail jig and 2 are currently not used.
- 2200 in the CMSGE
-2 OF1400s
-2 OF1010s.  1 is always setup for the LR32.
-1 MFK700. 
-1 Bosch Pony.  Really like this but hate there’s no dust collection.

Someday would like to get another of each OF2200 and MFK700 but other priorities first.  I wouldn’t mind selling the 2 PC690s that I haven’t been using, so if you are interested, send me a PM.

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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2020, 02:30 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

I'm actually surprised they have a 8mm for the DW611.  Thanks for the link.

Indeed, just having any of the options is nice, but this was a good find.

Offline JimD

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2020, 06:50 PM »
I have a PC7518 in my router table and I also have a fixed base for it if I want to use it that way.  I've used smaller routers for router table use before and the PC7518 is far superior.  It has speed settings that are rpm, not meaningless numbers, and it has real power.

I use a Bosch colt for little roundovers and chamfers.  I use two PC690s (4 bases) for everything else.  Right now one of the motors is in a fixed base with a dovetail bit for half blind dovetails set up in it and the plunge base holds the other motor with a 3/4 straight bit to make dados.  I cut dados using the router attachment for my DeWalt track saw track.   

The router table has decent dust collection but the hand held routers make messes.

Offline contendernut

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #69 on: October 21, 2020, 07:53 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

Is there any source for 8mm shank bits in US other than the few festool?

Online afish

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2020, 08:21 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

I'm actually surprised they have a 8mm for the DW611.  Thanks for the link.

happy to help I can vouch that it is a great collet.  I just ordered one for my dcw600 which is basically the cordless version of the 611.  Just be careful when ordering there is only one letter difference between the full size dewalt collets and the trimmer sized ones.  I messed up my first order.  Also just FYI the shipping is somewhat slow so plan ahead.  takes about 8 days or so for them to get me a collet from ohio to florida with standard shipping. 

Online afish

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2020, 08:46 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html

Is there any source for 8mm shank bits in US other than the few festool?

If there is they are few and far between... I purchased the 8mm collet specifically to run in a dcw600 with a festool 499811.  I trim flush with the mfk and follow up with the dewalt cordless with the festool roundover.  both bits live permanently in each.  No thinking no adjusting just pick up and go.  While im sure festool routers are nice at the end of the day its just a router and I would rather have 8 dedicated routers that I dont have to mess around changing bits, guides and such then 1 or 2 expensive routers that I would need to change each time.  The Mfk is the only expensive router I have but its pretty specialized so its worth the price if you are going to trim a lot of edge banding.  My favs are DW621 for plunge (even though the trigger is a little funky) but the DC was ahead of its time.  PC D-handle and dewalt cordless trim router ( the makita is good too but I already have a bunch of Dewalt batteries) so the dewalt is my go to cordless. 

Offline Peter Halle

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2020, 08:47 PM »
I believe Lee Valley has some 8 mm bits.

Peter

Offline ferrij

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2020, 12:04 AM »
Festo OF1000, OF2000, Trend T3. No need for anything else. All easy to setup and use. All have great dust collection. Could not be happier.

JF

Offline JimH2

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2020, 10:51 AM »
All of the Festool Routers, a Bosch 1617EVS (both bases), Porter Cable 7518 (router table), Bosch Colt (set), and the Dewalt DCW600B(cordless compact router). These were purchased over a period many years or so. I have had others that burned up or failed. All time favorites: OF 2200 and the Dewalt.

You cannot have too many routers.

Offline xedos

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #75 on: October 22, 2020, 11:27 AM »
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Is there any source for 8mm shank bits in US other than the few festool?

yup !   Rob Lee has just about everything you could want.   If he doesn't, you probably don't need it.  [tongue]

Not easy to search or filter though - you gotta do a bit of sleuthing:

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/search?query=8mm+router+bit

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #76 on: October 22, 2020, 11:44 AM »
I think the only mm shank bits here are mostly festools and I think some of the dovetail jigs (leigh) use a metric bit.  However I think the dovetails might be also available in imperial (not 100% on that as I dont use one).  Just about every other bit I have ever needed OTHER than the Festool 1mm round over was available in a comparable imperial shaft.  Its odd Amana makes a 1/16 (1.5mm) and a 2mm but not the 1mm.  Just out of curiosity is there any router bits out there that you couldnt find with an imperial shaft?  Oh, I just thought of another one the 5mm or any of the boring bits always have a 10mm shaft regardless of who makes it.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #77 on: October 22, 2020, 12:10 PM »
There are lots of 8mm shank bits to be had here.  Festool has not cornered the market.

 I believe Leigh was using 8mm bits with an adapter long before FT started peddling router bits.   Leigh does offer some of their line in 1/2" shank, but that usually means a larger router.   8mm will fit in some compact routers that won't accept 1/2" shank.  The smaller routers are more comfortable to use with their jig.  8mm shanks afford a much beefier cutter.


On a 1-3mm diameter cutter, a larger diameter shank doesn't really bring much to the party.   It's those medium to larger diameter cutters that benefit to those that can't accept a 1/2 collet.  Like a t-slot, drawer lock or large radius roundover bit.




Anyone notice that PC has quietly discontinued most, if not all, of their routers ?
« Last Edit: October 22, 2020, 12:13 PM by xedos »

Offline Cheese

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #78 on: October 22, 2020, 12:13 PM »
Vortex Tooling have some.

https://www.vortextool.com/wood-tooling.html


Onsrud have a few.

https://www.onsrud.com/Series/52-400.asp


CMT has a ton of them in their European Catalog.

Offline woodferret

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #79 on: October 22, 2020, 01:09 PM »
Just out of curiosity is there any router bits out there that you couldnt find with an imperial shaft?

The only non-Festool bit I ever looked at was a D=8mm upcut so I could cheap out and rout 8mm mortises without a DF500.  That said, Lee Valley sells imperial 5/16" tenon stock so this is low on my priority and more curiosity-sake.  Mostly though, if I get a 8mm collet, it'd more likely be for the FS hinge boring and 5mm stop bits.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2020, 07:18 PM by woodferret »

Offline fin

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #80 on: October 22, 2020, 05:58 PM »
ermm i have a festool of1010 router which is a decent machine for me. use it for a fair old variety of routering.

a makita rp2301 (i think) use it in the main for routering joints on laminate kitchen worktops.

i also have a little cheap trim router.

looking to get one of the dewalt 18v routers to basically take over some of the workt the festool router does and also the little cheap trim router. itd be easier for me with a battery powered router. they look a very good bit of kit too

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #81 on: October 22, 2020, 07:09 PM »
Just out of curiosity is there any router bits out there that you couldnt find with an imperial shaft? 

Think of it more as those of us who don't want to buy inch shaft bits.  3rd party metric collets means we can convert them to mm and not buy inch based bits.

I don't have many bits at this point, so not much of a loss, and having the 1/4" collet around means I still have something for emergencies.

Doesn't really solve the issue that all routers other than the festools have basically no dust collection.

Offline Papajoe

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2020, 05:19 PM »
2 pc 7518 in tables
1 of2200 in festool Vl table
1 pc 890 never opened
1 of 1010 hand use
1 makita 18v hand use
1 makita 1.25 hp

The 2200 is top, 1010 is great size:weight ratio

Offline xedos

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2020, 06:31 PM »
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Doesn't really solve the issue that all routers other than the festools have basically no dust collection.

This is simply not so.   :o

a few:   Some of them on par or better than Festool on some operations.

https://www.finewoodworking.com/2005/10/25/midsize-plunge-router-7529-review

http://www.tritontools.com/en-GB/Product/Power%20Tools/Routers/TRA001

http://www.insidewoodworking.com/porter_cable_routers.html  & the plung version:

https://flairwoodworks.com/2012/02/20/adapting-a-porter-cable-890-series-plunge-router-to-fit-a-festool-d27-dust-extraction-hose/

https://www.toolnut.com/dewalt-dw6182-plunge-base-for-dw616-618-routers.html

and this, available stateside well before any of y'all had ever heard of Festo or seen one of their routers.
https://www.factoryauthorizedoutlet.com/products/dewalt-dw621-2hp-electronic-variable-speed-plunge-router-tool-electric

In addition , most of the new cordless routers offer accessory shrouds and ports for dust collection.  Bosch has also offered ports for many of their fixed and plunge router for decades.  Again, before Festo was here selling routers.

Festool doesn't have a monopoly on router dust collection.  We can debate performance, effectiveness, pride of ownership, or even cost or utility of one vs. another; but other router dust collection options exist.

In spades.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2020, 09:16 PM »
My first was a Ryobi 2 or 2.25 Hp, cheaper router but it has plenty of power and a small craftsman kit motor that can be a d handle plunger angle grinder. It actually worked well but the attachments are not the most stable or sturdy feeling. Same with the ryobi it is a fine useful router but the adjustment for height is a coarse thread in a fixed base. No real fine tuning of depth. I dream of an1010 or 1400 and recently the new origin rig that thing looks sweet!
« Last Edit: November 17, 2020, 12:50 AM by Bertotti »
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Offline GigaWatt

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2020, 09:39 PM »
1. Porter Cable 7518 mounted in Bench Dog cast iron table for door parts etc.,
2. PC 893PK for general routing
3. DeWalt 20V trim router for round overs/chamfers/removing tabs on cnc parts
4. Avid 4824 Pro CNC Router with 2.2kW water cooled spindle.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2020, 09:44 PM by GigaWatt »

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2020, 08:40 PM »
A lot, but I use them in a cabinet shop. Many of them are set up for a dedicated job and only ever have the bit out to be replaced.
MFK 700, modified to trim 3/4" solid wood edges
OF1010 general light duty
OF1400 heavier general use
2 Milwaukee body grip one flush trim, one pattern
Porter Cable 890, least used one I own
Triton 3 HP in the table
4 Bosch colts each with a specific bit/task set up
2 Rigid 2400 each specific
Makita compact specific task
Makita compact cordless specific
So, it looks like 15? Some I don't use for days at a time, it just depends on the job at hand. Other times, like today, I could have 5 or 6 of them out at one time.

Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2020, 09:14 PM »
MFK 700, modified to trim 3/4" solid wood edges


Thanks @Crazyraceguy, could you list the bit you are using?  I am getting ready to do the mod to my MFK.  In the blog by @PaulMarcel, he indicated the Vortex 1322, which I have on order but wondering if there are any other options here.  Thanks.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2020, 12:47 AM »
I have enough that I need to count them every time I am asked.

#1 - a big Triton in my main router table
#2-4 - less user-friendly routers in a triple router table (article coming out soon in Canadian Woodworking Magazine)
#5-6 - Milwaukee kit routers with one plunge base and two fixed bases (one elliptical, one multi-offset; another article coming soon in Canadian Woodworking Magazine), used mostly with large diameter bits
#7 - OF 1010 for general and freehand routing
#8 - OF 1400 for general routing that the 1010 can’t handle
#9 - CNC spindle A for general CNC milling
#10 - CNC spindle for boring 1/8” holes (I make cribbage boards)

Think I got ‘em all. Oh, I have two router planes, too.
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2020, 06:26 PM »
MFK 700, modified to trim 3/4" solid wood edges


Thanks @Crazyraceguy, could you list the bit you are using?  I am getting ready to do the mod to my MFK.  In the blog by @PaulMarcel, he indicated the Vortex 1322, which I have on order but wondering if there are any other options here.  Thanks.

The one I use came from Lee Valley. It has an 8mm shank, 3/4" diameter and IIRC 7/8" cut length. It just seemed like the bigger shank would be more solid when using most of the cut length.
on Lee Valley's website you can search by shank diameter, that's how I found it.
I'll take a pic of mine tomorrow.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 04:09 PM by Crazyraceguy »