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Offline thudchkr

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2020, 06:06 AM »

If you haven't seen it in operation, the Milwaukee M18 cordless router is awesome.  Things I particularly like:
  • The adjustments are positive and precise.
  • The motor break is awesome.  In theory it does not stop instantly, but in practice it might as well.
  • Dust collection is very good.
  • Other features are comparable to other trim routers on the market.
  • Runtime is suitable for more trim routing tasks, as long as you are not running it for long periods on end.  I'm using 5 Ah batteries and did not run out the battery while chamfering a project.
  • The only real disappointment is that there is no plunge base (yet).

Am looking real hard at picking up that M18 cordless. While looking at it, they also showed me the plunge base. 
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-10-5601
They also now have separate kis that come with the different bases, (offset and/or plunge).

I currently have the big PC beast in my router table, in a lift, and have a PC 690 that gets used with a dovetail jig. A Dewalt 617 that also pretty much lives with the dovetail jig, while a Makita 1100 resides with the Leigh MFT. A Bosch Colt with plunge base used to handle all the smaller handheld tasks, but got usurped when I started getting the Festool offerings.

My first Festool was the 1400, then picked up the MFK 700, the 2200 and finally the 1010. The Festools pretty much took over all the non-dedicated tasks which means I get to leave the others set up for specific purposes.

Pretty sure I’ll be acquiring that M18 though. The appeal of having a cordless router, and huge investment already in the Milwaukee M18, (and M12), lineup make for a good addition to the stable.
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Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2020, 09:06 AM »
As evident from my signature I am not ashamed to admit that I own every model of the current Festool router line up, except the 1400. And that one may be in the shop soon. Collections need to be complete, right?

Why I own two MFK 700’s? I happened upon a bare and barely used second hand machine that was very cheap, but discovered that buying the accessories separately was as expensive as buying a Set. So I bought a Set & to even things out I bought the lone MFK 700 its own Systainer and insert AND a guide of its own.
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Offline StanB

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2020, 09:55 AM »
I have the 1010, 1400, 2200, and two cordless Dewalt trim routers.

I have one Dewalt set up with a white side round over and the other is left for flex setups. I would like to buy 2-3 more of these for other setups. Cheap as chips and really good router.

For corded activities I reach for the 2200. It is flat out a joy to use and I find it the most stable to use. I use the 1010 for the lr32 and odd trim jobs. 1400 comes out when I do multiple ops or just want to change it up. Overall I use them all interchangeably.
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Offline StanB

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2020, 09:58 AM »
Also I have the micro fence and adapters for all the routers. Best investment ever. Love the fence and circle jig.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2020, 10:10 AM »
Micro Fence is a big deal for me.  The Micro Fence circle jig supports large diameter circle cutting - I've done one piece that had nearly a 2' radius.  The Micro Fence fence is the best fence that I've ever used.

If you haven't seen it in operation, the Milwaukee M18 cordless router is awesome. 
  • The only real disappointment is that there is no plunge base (yet).


I echo the Micro Fence recommend, that system is very slick. Adjuster backlash is in the .001" area. They also offer a metric adjuster as well. I have the adapters to use the Micro Fence on my Festool 1010, 1400 & 700. I'd suggest anyone new to router use, take a close look at the Micro Fence before you purchase the normal router accessories and then move on to the Micro Fence system anyways...money saved.

I've also always had a few Milwaukee routers laying around. I still like them because they're bullet proof. However, as good as their routers are, the available Milwaukee plunge bases have always been horrific. The plunging action is sticky, the internal spring/springs are too stiff and they make a horrible thunk when they hit the upper stop.  [mad]

I'd suggest trying the Milwaukee plunge base in person before you take the leap.

I'm also thinking about the new Milwaukee M18 router...it seems really nice.  [smile]

Offline Imemiter

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2020, 11:39 AM »
I've also got a beautiful old Stanley. My mentor talked me into buying it. I actually still use it sometimes. Spins like a top. No photos to upload but here's a link:
https://i.imgur.com/uDcnMwV.jpg

My most used are two Bosch, a 1613 and a 1617. Then the two Makitas, an offset trimmer and the 18v cordless. I've also got another short, sturdy Porter Cable trimmer that hasn't seen a lot of use. I was surprised to find so few routers putting together inventory recently. In the past two years I've sold two PCs and a Ryobi. I love routers, but I've never had a Festool. I'll have to remedy that someday.
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Offline Thistleman

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2020, 04:40 PM »
To answer the question what do I use my routers for is simple cutting lots of different profiles an having set fences etc not having to adjust these if I want to use a different cutter

Festool. OF2200, 0F1400X2, OF1010, MFK700
Elu. MOF99E
Makita. DRT50 18V X2
Bosch. GKF 12V
Draper. For use in router table
AUKTools V3 for use in router table


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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2020, 06:18 PM »

I've also always had a few Milwaukee routers laying around. I still like them because they're bullet proof. However, as good as their routers are, the available Milwaukee plunge bases have always been horrific. The plunging action is sticky, the internal spring/springs are too stiff and they make a horrible thunk when they hit the upper stop.  [mad]

I'd suggest trying the Milwaukee plunge base in person before you take the leap.

I'm also thinking about the new Milwaukee M18 router...it seems really nice.  [smile]

I strikes me, as my very old Makita router has slightly better plunge action than my newest routers. To me it seems strange that the industry seems to rely on the same mechanics/glide bushings since, well... a very long time ago. I know that the progress of gliding bearings and bushings have come a long way since - a long time ago  [huh]
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2020, 07:05 PM »
....
Am looking real hard at picking up that M18 cordless. While looking at it, they also showed me the plunge base. 
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-10-5601
They also now have separate kits that come with the different bases, (offset and/or plunge).
...


I see another tool order coming in my future...

Offline jjowen

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2020, 09:55 PM »
Asked me three days ago and I would have given a different answer; A pin on the plug-it connector on my OF 1010 broke! I got the OF 1400 out of the CMS and started using it the right way up for the first time! She looked brand new once I vacuumed all the dust out. I love the extra weight and power.
Anyway, I took the 1010 to get repaired and purchased the replacement part 574351 while I was there.

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Offline Cochese

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2020, 11:41 AM »
OF 1400 - LR 32 use, other main non-router table tasks
OF 1010 - mainly for flush trimming hardwood banding, but I should figure out ways to use it more
Dewalt 611PK - my main small router, recently upgraded with a Festool plug-it conversion. A small detail router needs a light.
Ryobi 18v trim router - haven't really used since I got my DeWalt, but I should throw it in my away kit.

(2) Triton TRA001 - router table use. One chuck is crossthreaded, thus the need for a second one. Once the parts factory comes back on line and I can replace the chuck I'll figure out a use for the second one.

No plans for any additional.

Offline Kevin C.

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2020, 11:12 PM »
 At last count I had 14 routers. Mostly Dewalt 616/618s. A couple Dewalt 621s in tables. A 611 in the cnc and a few Bosch colts that never have the bits swapped out.  The most common bits (champfers and 1/8 roundover) just stay in a couple routers. One table is dedicated to a 3/16 flush bit to cut the skins off cnc cut parts.
 I haven't gotten a Festool router yet, but a 1010 is on my list. The dust collection being integrated on a festool vs the Oneida attachments I currently use is what may push me over the edge to buy one.

Offline GilbertV

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2020, 11:27 PM »
I have a total of 15 routers.  I have 3 Porter Cable 7518 3 1/4 hp each on a dedicated Jessem Mast- R-Lift that I use a stile bit, a coping bit and a table edge bit that are set up for doing cabinet doors.  I have a PC 690 router on a plunge base, 5 Porter  Cable 2-1/4 on either a fixed or plunge base plus a 6th one on a Jessem router plate.  Two Dewalt 611 routers on a fixed and plunge base set up with round over  bits. Also a Dewalt 610 router set up for my Leigh dovetail jig. 
I have a Bosch Colt that rarely used and will probably go to a nephew just starting to do Woodworking.   Lastly I have Dewalt 618 router with both a fixed and plunge base. 

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2020, 12:13 AM »
@GilbertV   seems like I might have a few more routers than you but your fleet definitely outweighs mine.  [big grin]

Offline Vancouver Pete

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2020, 06:54 AM »

3 A Bosch GMF 1600 the fixed base lives under the router table and the router alternates between that and the plunge base.

Bosch GKF 600 palm router

Recently acquired Triton 2400 watt to mount permanently in the router table which needs some small mods to the UKJ mounting plate which is why it isn't already there [mad]

Offline Master Carpenter

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2020, 07:15 PM »
Mfk 700. For edging, obviously
Of1010.  Primary for the lr33 setup
2 - bosch 1617 fixed/plunge kits, one in the table, one for handheld.
2-3 Bosch colts. Cheap disposable routers the way I use them. Mostly in jigs.
The router in my shaper origin
A makita trim router in my shapeoko.

I have 2 router tables, a big Bosch one they haven’t sold in years and my big incra ts setup.

I’d like to get a more powerful dedicated motor for my router table(S). And if either of the bigger Festool routers ever popped up at a great price, I’d get one.

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2020, 08:30 PM »
In chronological order:
An old Sears Craftsman, hardly ever used
A Bosch 1617 or equivalent, now in a Woodpeckers lift
An Elu > 25 years old, hardly ever used
A Festool 1400
A Bosch Colt - hardly used
A DeWalt mini with plunge base—to go to my son because i now have a cordless Makita
A barely used 1100
Have been doing more acquisition than use but now getting my workshop together
Maybe should think about listing in Classified?

Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2020, 02:24 AM »

Hey @thudchkr ...

....
Am looking real hard at picking up that M18 cordless. While looking at it, they also showed me the plunge base. 
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-10-5601
They also now have separate kits that come with the different bases, (offset and/or plunge).
...


I see another tool order coming in my future...


Got it :).  Thanks for the pointer.


I also got the MicroFence adapters for my Festool routers.

Offline savsuds

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2020, 08:02 PM »
Three.

Router Table
5mm Shelf pin and system 32 hole maker.
Trim router for chamfers/round overs.
Hobbyist just trying to have fun and not let my OCD ruin it for me.

Offline PaulMarcel

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2020, 10:08 PM »
Hmm... in order with why...

Makita 2 1/4 hp RF1101 fixed/plunge router that is now in the table; did a lot of freehand with it, too, before "green"
Festool OF1400, which is likely my favorite
Veritas Router Plane, because fine-fitting dados need it
Festool OF700, that is exclusively used for edge banding
Festool OF2200, that I really should use more than the OF1400, but is currently in the CMS, which is a gorgeous second table
Foredom rotary router tool, for grinding, fine shaping, and especially inlay with a base (the Veritas base is amazing btw)
Foredom rotary router tool, a second one because it came as a package deal on a OneWay lathe... m'okay...

I guess I'm behind on power routers. The 1010 has been very tempting at times due to low weight despite the chuck limitations. At this point, though, what would be more useful is a cordless router with 1010 features. Keep it chucked up with a roundover or chamfer bit and will use it all day. When will there be a green one? Makita and Milwalkee have some tempting offerings (at least I'm on a Makita battery platform for some other tools)

We're all far far far behind Charles Neil (RIP...) The last number I had from him was 75. He literally left them chucked with the correct depth.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2020, 10:57 PM »
“what would be more useful is a cordless router with 1010 features. Keep it chucked up with a roundover or chamfer bit and will use it all day. When will there be a green one? Makita and Milwalkee have some tempting offerings (at least I'm on a Makita battery platform for some other tools)”

@PaulMarcel  Go ahead and get the cordless Makita for chamfer and round over work. You don’t need a plunge router for those bits.

But get the OF1010 too. It’s really sweet. I have three OF1000 and seldom bother using anything else.

Offline PaulMarcel

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2020, 11:01 PM »
“what would be more useful is a cordless router with 1010 features. Keep it chucked up with a roundover or chamfer bit and will use it all day. When will there be a green one? Makita and Milwalkee have some tempting offerings (at least I'm on a Makita battery platform for some other tools)”

@PaulMarcel  Go ahead and get the cordless Makita for chamfer and round over work. You don’t need a plunge router for those bits.

But get the OF1010 too. It’s really sweet. I have three OF1000 and seldom bother using anything else.

Oh definitely a plunge base isn't necessary (but useful for when you want to do some other work). You're trying to get me to get a 1010 I can see that... :) I'm okay with it haha!
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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2020, 10:28 AM »
For you router lover

quick and easy jig/accesory to make.
Mario

Offline Cypren

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2020, 06:09 PM »
Bosch 1617, permanently table-mounted; this was the first router I bought years ago when just starting out, and it still works great
MFK700 - for edging, obviously
Milwaukee M18 cordless - mostly because I already have a heavy investment into Milwaukee's lineup
Festool OF 1010 - exclusively used with guide bushings
OF 1400 - general-purpose handheld router, typically the first thing I reach for; also used with the LR32 kit
OF 2200 - The Beast, for tasks none of the others can do; so heavy and cumbersome it rarely comes out of its box

Of the bunch, the OF 1400 and the Bosch see the most use by a wide margin. I thought I would wind up using the M18 more than I actually do: while cordless convenience is nice, the reality is that it's rare that I'm doing something with a router where I don't want dust collection hooked up as well. The others are specialized tools for niche needs.

Offline JimD

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2020, 12:06 PM »
6 but I only regularly use 4.  I have an old 13.3A Ryobi plunge router motor in my router table.  I have two PC 690 routers with 4 bases (two hand held, one D handle, and one plunge).  And I have a Bosch Colt for light work.  I also have an old Craftsman and a J. C Penney router.  Neither of the last two has a decent collet so they only get used if there is a decent chance of damage - like when I routed a slot in a piece of pressure treated in my driveway.  I will probably buy a DeWalt plunge router (the model that used to be made by Elu) so I don't have to move a PC motor into the plunge base.  I keep a 690 set up to do half blind dovetails most of the time.  The other one does hand held work that the colt is too small for.  The DeWalt/Elu has built in dust collection. 

Offline Papajoe

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2020, 04:11 PM »
my festool 2200 is mounted in cms vl table, festool 1010 hand held and shelve pins. pc7518 in a cast iron table and incra lift, pc7518 in an incra table and woodpecker lift, pc890 with incra lift, 2 makita 18v routers. thats it!

Offline afish

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2020, 05:13 PM »
7 total but only one Festool (mfk) It will vary for all but a router is the one tool that I hate messing with to change bits guides etc.  So I have a mix of plunge, D-handle, and cordless trim all set up with different bits some have dedicated guides too.  I have to say the d-handle is my favorite style for general purpose.  I wish someone would make a cordless D-handle.  I just love the ease and controllability it offers. There's no thinking as soon as you grab it your finger is on the trigger ready to go. Easy to handle and control too. If someone offered a cordless version I would probably switch over most of them to that.  There are a few dedicated with larger bits that a cordless unit wouldn't be ideal for, but those are used less often.  For basic edge profiling bits I am dreaming of a cordless D-handle version one day.  If I needed a new bit for some reason I would most likely buy a router to go with it.  Most of my routers are $200 and under though I wouldn't be doing that with Festool routers. 

Offline Matthewajones

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2020, 06:44 PM »
All of them.  One of the older Italian gentleman who I was fortunate enough to work with, came from a town in Italy where he was told he was going to be a woodworker while still in elementary school.  This was in the early 1900's.  Everything was done by hand.  They went to the rendering facility to scrape hides to make their glue.  He immigrated to the US just as Italy was getting in to WW2.  He worked in different shops and started collecting tools.  He had many routers, if he needed a bit with a particular profile. he bought a router to go with it.  He had done everything by hand....and was tired of it.

Online woodferret

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2020, 08:47 PM »
I'm an oddball with just 2, non Festool.

Dewalt 611PK (I like it's size)

Bosch 1617EVS table mounted although a quick discharge of the motor gives me access to the 1/2" plunge base.

Both are equipped with their respective dust collection accessories so I haven't felt the need to go Festool just yet.  The metric collet's the only thing that I'm missing, but the Bosch has a 8mm available.

I'll probably add a Makita cordless trimmer for roundover profiles if retooling the 611 starts to annoy me more.

Offline afish

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Re: How many Routers do you have and why?
« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2020, 10:07 PM »
you can get metric collets for just about any popular brand router.

https://elairecorp.com/routercollets.html