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Offline LsDelancy

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Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« on: June 02, 2022, 10:35 AM »
 I just ordered my DF 500 and would like to get a dust extractor to use with it.
I am not overly concerned about the wheel lock or the Bluetooth (I do not have any cordless FT tools, and don't plan to get any).
I have seen a few places where people have posted that the 204717 hose garage will fit the CT 15.
I have been having a hard time finding it in stock any where.
I have found a 499748 hose garage that says it's for non-Bluetooth extractors.
Does any one know if the 499748 hose garage will fit the CT 15 E?

Excited to get my first FT, I'm sure there will be plenty more, definitely a corded TS 55 and a Kapex, and most likely a sander or two.

Thanks!

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Offline xedos

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2022, 01:17 PM »
Why not just get the CT Mini ?


Offline squall_line

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2022, 01:21 PM »
499748 is not designed to fit the CT 15, it's for the older model CT MINI and MIDI (non-I models).

The hose garage design is different enough between the two that it likely would not work.  If I were at home, I would check my OG MINI and MIDI-I to verify that they're built differently, but alas...

Offline LsDelancy

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2022, 02:01 PM »
Thank you for that information.

I might just bite the bullet and get the MIDI.
Still on the fence.

The small capacity of the MINI does not appeal to me.

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2022, 02:26 PM »
The price of a Mini or Midi is twice that of a CT15. If you don't need anti-static and BT, a CT15 is more than good enough for your stated machines (DF, sanders, Kapex and TS). Adding a regular Dust Deputy and bucket/pal will solve the capacity concerns plus you will hardly need to replace the bag ( may be once a few years or more).

Offline LsDelancy

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2022, 02:43 PM »
I'm seeing $399 for the CT 15.
     $65 + shipping for the hose garage (which no one seems to have in stock).
     If I decide to upgrade the hose that's $120 - $130.
     That gets me pretty close to $600.

I'm seeing $659 for the MIDI.
     It's close, kind of a tough call.

I'd probably go with the 15 if I could get the hose garage.

But, I can be pretty impatient.
And I really like the idea of being able to stack systainers on top.
Right now it will be used for my domino and my Shaper Origin.
I will likely get a FT sander next.

Hmm...

Offline mino

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2022, 03:59 PM »
The Bluetooth thing is WAY more useful for turning the vac from the hose end than it is for the "Festool cordless" use case.

In your case, I would go for the Mini instead. But this is European view where the price diff is a bit less.

Again, price diff aside, the CT15 is really good for static single-tool use. Once you consider it as a general vac, it becomes just too compromised.

That said, per eKat, the hose garage set is part # 204717. Most retailers will not stock it explicitly but it can be ordered as a spare part.

Though a better way may be to sell your "semi-garage" to a Mini owner who wants to reduce the footprint of his vac ...
« Last Edit: June 02, 2022, 04:20 PM by mino »
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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2022, 04:28 PM »
Agree with Mino here, you don’t ever need to own any cordless Festool Bluetooth enabled battery tool to sincerely appreciate having a Bluetooth remote for your vac. You don’t even have to have the remote attached to the hose - put it wherever you find it useful - and you can get additional remotes if you like.

A situation where you buy a sander, battery operated from another manufacturer - you’ll have the great benefit of having the remote within reach  [wink]
Metabo has a solution; it’s a socket coupled with a remote like Festool’s, but it is also triggered by vibration if strapped to a tool or hose close to the tool. It’ll work with any vac.
Then again, it’ll bring a total cost close to a CT Mini/Midi.

The CT15 is best value if you don’t plan “upgrading” it at all (ie: you already have an AS hose)
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Offline LsDelancy

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2022, 10:36 AM »
I'm convinced. I'm going to get the MIDI and Bluetooth remote for the domino and the Origin. 

I'll probably get a CT 15 later when I get my Kapex and leave it connected to that.
The Kapex will be on a built in miter saw station and won't be getting moved.
No need for a hose garage, Bluetooth or wheel lock for that application.

Offline LsDelancy

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2022, 11:48 AM »
Got the CT MIDI and bought a BT remote for it (because...why not?).
The DF500 showed up.
I'm very happy with my new toys, uh, I mean tools...

Offline pettyconstruction

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2022, 03:38 PM »
I was considering the Ct-15 ,but after having the BT on my Ct-26,I wouldn’t have a vac with out it.
Way to handy.
Charlie


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Offline ChuckS

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2022, 04:58 PM »
Festool is pretty smart in making a non-BT dust extractor at a much lower price point available so it can grab more sales, e.g., from those who just need the basic dust extraction functions, and have no use of other features, such as the anti-static hose and hose garage.

I have one CT15, and may get another one if any one of my existing shop vacs stops working. All my dust collection equipment sits right next to the machine(s) it serves.

Offline Vondawg

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2022, 07:59 AM »
Milwaukee just came out with a remote (#0950-20) for any vac (plug-in) USA
Tool Nut sells them for @$120
« Last Edit: June 13, 2022, 08:03 AM by Vondawg »
There are no mistakes....just new designs.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2022, 09:09 AM »
Milwaukee just came out with a remote (#0950-20) for any vac (plug-in) USA
Tool Nut sells them for @$120

This does the same thing for about 1/10th the cost. Okay, you slip the remote into your shirt pocket instead of strap it on your wrist. It is rated for 15 amps. No spec given for the red one. It also has a 6 inch pigtail so it doesn’t block any other outlets when plugged in.

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2022, 10:09 AM »
Michael,
I haven't looked at the Milwaukee control to see how it works, but the kind of remote you linked (which I have half a dozen of) controls and provides power to the CT15, but won't turn it on like a BT. Did I miss something here?

Edit: Indeed, the Milwaukee remote product spec. page gives no information on the amp rating:

https://www.acmetools.com/milwaukee-wireless-dust-control-adapter-remote-kit-0950-20/045242550944.html?irclickid=UKpU3TXINxyIUPIwofTcXS6gUkD2doTbh3NY3A0&irgwc=1&utm_campaign=Tool%20Lauch&utm_channel=Affiliates&utm_source=impact&utm_medium=affiliate
« Last Edit: June 13, 2022, 11:30 AM by ChuckS »

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2022, 12:26 PM »
Hi Chuck, the Milwaukee remote requires you to push the button to start the vac. It (the vac) is not started by the tool like the Festool remote. It’s as limited as the remotes that cost 1/10th as much. One thing I’m shocked by is the photo that shows the main unit plugged into a quad box outlet. It uses one outlet and blocks use of the other three.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2022, 12:30 PM by Michael Kellough »

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2022, 12:37 PM »
Thanks for the clarification.

It's useless if it requires the physical pushing of a button on the vac, and it isn't a BT feature as I know it. $120? I'd rather dish out an additional $200 plus change, and get one more CT15, which has the auto-start function.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2022, 01:51 PM »
Thanks for the clarification.

It's useless if it requires the physical pushing of a button on the vac, and it isn't a BT feature as I know it. $120? I'd rather dish out an additional $200 plus change, and get one more CT15, which has the auto-start function.

It’s a lot more useful than that! [blink] It only requires pushing a button on the remote. That’s a big convenience for me. I use the cheap things on my vac and on my Jet dust collector.

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2022, 02:36 PM »
Thanks for the clarification.

It's useless if it requires the physical pushing of a button on the vac, and it isn't a BT feature as I know it. $120? I'd rather dish out an additional $200 plus change, and get one more CT15, which has the auto-start function.

It’s a lot more useful than that! [blink] It only requires pushing a button on the remote. That’s a big convenience for me. I use the cheap things on my vac and on my Jet dust collector.
Maybe I misunderstood.

With the Milwaukee remote, do you still need to push the manual button on the CT15 to turn it on?


If pushing a button on the Milwaukee remote will turn on the CT15 (without pushing anything further on the CT15), then it's a different story.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2022, 03:29 PM by ChuckS »

Offline cpw

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2022, 03:07 PM »
I'm making (I think valid) assumption the Milkwaukee remote works just like every other automatic vacumm trigger.  If you can unplug/plug your CT15 to stop/start it, then you could use the Milwaukee remote.  If the CT15 has the equivalent of a magnetic safety switch so that it won't turn on after a power loss, then the universal Milwaukee remote won't work.

Offline squall_line

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2022, 03:15 PM »
I'm making (I think valid) assumption the Milkwaukee remote works just like every other automatic vacumm trigger.  If you can unplug/plug your CT15 to stop/start it, then you could use the Milwaukee remote.  If the CT15 has the equivalent of a magnetic safety switch so that it won't turn on after a power loss, then the universal Milwaukee remote won't work.

I believe that you are correct on that; the older MINI/MIDI, and any of the CT-22 and larger DEs should work just fine, since they have a dial switch that reconnects power when the DE is plugged in.

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2022, 03:49 PM »

As far as I can tell the Milwaukee seems to be a remote controlled outlet switch. Plenty of those on the market.

I do not believe the Milwaukee would work on a knob controlled Festool vac while the Festool CT is set to 'Auto'.  The Festool BT remote does. Which does away with the need to go flip the knob to manual.

Seth

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Hose Garage for CT 15 E
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2022, 04:03 PM »

As far as I can tell the Milwaukee seems to be a remote controlled outlet switch. Plenty of those on the market.

I do not believe the Milwaukee would work on a knob controlled Festool vac while the Festool CT is set to 'Auto'.  The Festool BT remote does. Which does away with the need to go flip the knob to manual.

Seth

Seth is right.

I can't see what the Milwaukee brings to the table to make it worth twice as much as the next most expensive outlet switch.

It will work with a Festool vac (or other tool start vacs) only if the vac is switched to manual and plugged into the Milwaukee box, which has to be plugged into the ac outlet. Which is still more convenient than walking over to the vac to turn it on when using a tool that either doesn't start the vac (all manner of hand tools) or a tool that draws too much power to run via the vac's outlet.