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Offline Trebek115

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Can’t tell if scam
« on: March 16, 2023, 08:51 AM »
There’s a list for a Domino 700 XL used forv$500 and no idea how to tell if it’s fake or what to look for if I go over there and test it, which he said it would be ok. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Offline ChuckS

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2023, 09:05 AM »
I'd definitely bring a board along, and give it a test. But before that, I'd ask him if he's the original owner, about any proof of purchase, what projects he has used it on, why he's selling it, etc. If you make it to his place, look at his place if he has any other tools. No woodworker would own a DJ but no other serious tools such as a table saw or band saw, dust extractor and clamps for use with the DJ. He also should have some dominoes around, and not just the machine if he is the owner.

It being a stolen property would be my main concern, since you could try out the machine before you buy.

If the deal looks too good to be true, walk away.

Offline jarbroen

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2023, 11:50 AM »
You have the serial number.  If there's not a FestoolUSA online tool for looking up whether a tool is stolen you could call them and check over the phone.
One of the benefits of Festool tracking.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2023, 05:28 PM »
It's a 200-240v tool, not likely to be in the US.
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Offline mrB

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2023, 06:12 PM »
It's a 200-240v tool, not likely to be in the US.

Good spot
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline Trebek115

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2023, 07:03 PM »
So does the 200-240v mean it wont work in the US or that it was stolen?

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2023, 07:16 PM »
So does the 200-240v mean it wont work in the US or that it was stolen?

   Stolen hard to say. But it won't work in the USA without a transformer of some type or  240v circuit.

Seth

Offline Trebek115

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2023, 08:17 PM »
Ok, if I plug it into a 220v outlet in my garage, it should work fine right?  I was reading online that all Domino DF 700 XL's are 220 volt, so why would this one not be from the US?

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2023, 08:40 PM »
DF700s sold in North America are rated 110V, not 220V. So are all DF500s. If the seller offers a 220V DF700, it didn't come from a Festool retailer based in the US or Canada, as far as I know. The last DF700 I used was 110V.

One extra question to ask the seller: where did he buy/get his Domino Joiner?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2023, 08:43 PM by ChuckS »

Offline rmhinden

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2023, 09:58 PM »
DF700s sold in North America are rated 110V, not 220V. So are all DF500s. If the seller offers a 220V DF700, it didn't come from a Festool retailer based in the US or Canada, as far as I know. The last DF700 I used was 110V.

Right, my DF700 runs on 110 volts, not 220 volts.

At that price, I would suspect there is something wrong with it.

Bob

Offline Bohdan

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2023, 10:35 PM »
Photo could be off the internet of a European model.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2023, 10:41 PM »
Ok, if I plug it into a 220v outlet in my garage, it should work fine right?  I was reading online that all Domino DF 700 XL's are 220 volt, so why would this one not be from the US?

First off, the 220V you refer to may actually be 240V if you're in the US. It all depends upon what voltage your local power facility is sending your way. My local energy supplier consistently transmits 119V to 121V power levels on one leg which translates to 238V to 242V on combined legs.

The DF 700 you mention, will operate on 240V but this is not the norm in the US and this item is not a US sourced piece of equipment.  Normal equipment designed to operate on 240V in the US include ovens, clothes dryers, water heaters and central air conditioners.  [tongue]

The thing you have going in your favor is that this DF 700 is rated for 220-240V at 50-60 cycles. That pretty much covers all the options despite it not being an official US released tool.  [smile] 
« Last Edit: March 17, 2023, 10:33 AM by Cheese »

Offline Reed Hoyer

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2023, 10:49 PM »
Ok, if I plug it into a 220v outlet in my garage, it should work fine right?  I was reading online that all Domino DF 700 XL's are 220 volt, so why would this one not be from the US?

It should work fine on any 220-240v outlet you've got, but it won't plug into a US Festool dust extractor which might be annoying. You don't use a domino without dust extraction so you'll be responsible for turning on an off a vac for every mortise. I will say that I regularly see 220v versions of tools being sold out of the UK on eBay for significantly less than their US versions. If someone brought a 220v tool over from Europe the market for it here will be much smaller and thus demand a lower price.

Offline squall_line

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2023, 11:21 PM »
Since it's a European model in the US, I would definitely want to test it first.  If nothing else, you need to figure out how the heck it plugs in!

If it's using some sort of Frankenstein'ed-together plug-it with a dryer cord and a plug-it, you would have to consider whether or not you have a dryer outlet available to use it.  If it's just using a normal EU-US adapter, maybe it's not a huge deal, but you still need to find a 240v outlet.  I have literally one in my entire house, and it's for my dryer.  The oven and range are both hard-wired, and I have no 240v anywhere else in the house or garage.

I don't know if it's a scam, per se, but something is definitely odd about this whole deal.

Offline Coen

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Re: Can’t tell if scam
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2023, 07:49 AM »
Maybe it was imported before the 110V DF700 came out? Or maybe someone emigrated from Europe to the USA and took it with them?

Half my Thinkpad power supplies originated their life in the USA as did both my Thinkpads itself. I have a whole bag full of US and UK power cords from imported stuff. They usually end up decapitated in some DIY project.

Dutch police have a database for stolen goods, publicly searchable. However, half the stolen Festool stuff they register with the T nr as opposed to the S nr. I've made a small illustrated manual for them on what number to register for stolen Festool stuff and they thanked me for it.

But if it's stolen yesterday and sold today, It might not even be in any database.