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Offline leftistelf

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Festool Tablesaw Video
« on: March 18, 2019, 06:20 AM »
I wonder if it’ll be cheaper than a full cabinet saw?


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Offline PeterK

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2019, 08:05 AM »
Can’t really make out much about the fence but sure looks like the one off my Sears Crapsman! The fence capablity of keeping calibration plus accuracy of returning for repeat cuts would be critical to me.

Oh and does the hotdog test still work if moved at much higher speed into the blade? Never seen any videos except really slow motion ones.

Offline Peter Durand

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2019, 10:16 AM »
Can’t really make out much about the fence but sure looks like the one off my Sears Crapsman! The fence capablity of keeping calibration plus accuracy of returning for repeat cuts would be critical to me.

Oh and does the hotdog test still work if moved at much higher speed into the blade? Never seen any videos except really slow motion ones.


I have seen the hotdog test demonstrated at a sales event. The feed rate was normal and hotdog was barely scratched.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2019, 10:22 AM »
I am guessing the price point should be in the rough range of a SAWSTOP jobsite saw, below the contractor's.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2019, 10:52 AM by ChuckM »

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2019, 10:43 AM »
the fence looks like the one off the CS50/70 which is junk. Im surprise FT didn't use an fence design simular to the old Beismeyer fence.

Notice the sub fence is set about mid blade where to saws arbor is? Even though its a full length fence.

Offline tallgrass

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2019, 09:50 PM »
Sadly I can not use the tech. Which seems to be taking over. UGH!

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2019, 10:02 PM »
Why the hating on the fence?  Looks like you can slide the secondary piece forward if you like.  But the way they have it there, it won't pinch with the blade, and it gives you extra length to fit the piece against before you engage the blade.  I'd say the fence looks nice.

I'd like to know more about how they raise/lower the blade, it moves almost like it's powered up and down, or he is just a robot in a meat suit. 

Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2019, 10:55 PM »
Here's one of the recently released vids on the updated CS 70 which just so happens to feature the first official video guidance I've ever found regarding the proper method for clamping the full length rip fence (a.k.a. "stopper") to the table:



I know this has come up before but I still have to wonder how many users aren't aware of the proper progression (knob versus levers) and are therefore prone to struggling with getting the fence to square to the blade (be it in conjunction with their CS 50, CS 70 or CMS TS)?
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Online Alex

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2019, 03:27 AM »
I wonder if it’ll be cheaper than a full cabinet saw?

The words Festool and cheaper don't belong in one sentence.

Maybe it's slightly less costly than a cabinet saw, but you get a whole lot more saw with the cabinet saw.

I know this has come up before but I still have to wonder how many users aren't aware of the proper progression (knob versus levers) and are therefore prone to struggling with getting the fence to square to the blade (be it in conjunction with their CS 50, CS 70 or CMS TS)?

Deflection? It always looks so easy when everything is new fresh out of the box with not a spec of dust on the saw. Then use it for 10 years and see what you're left with. I used my saw and LA fence this weekend and it once more comfirmed how I hate this thing with a passion. You make a steady connection on the front and then the fence is all over the place on the back. Turn the lever, any lever or knob, and it moves again. No.

Offline JimH2

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2019, 09:07 AM »
Can’t really make out much about the fence but sure looks like the one off my Sears Crapsman! The fence capablity of keeping calibration plus accuracy of returning for repeat cuts would be critical to me.

Oh and does the hotdog test still work if moved at much higher speed into the blade? Never seen any videos except really slow motion ones.
I had an incident with my real thumb at what was a normal feed rate and it was barely nicked. Healed up in less than two weeks and there is no sign of a scar. Nearly 20 years of non-SawStop usage and another 10 years of SawStop usage when it happened. Long day and I should have called it quits instead of doing "just one more cut". It was a production job with lots of repetition. The photo is not great and looks worse than it was. Nick was the width of the blade and about 1/16" deep. The discoloration was some bruising.

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2019, 09:11 AM »
Here's one of the recently released vids on the updated CS 70 which just so happens to feature the first official video guidance I've ever found regarding the proper method for clamping the full length rip fence (a.k.a. "stopper") to the table:

@jobsworth will love that video. We discussed that fence and setting it up endlessly!  [crying]

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Festool Tablesaw Video
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2019, 10:13 AM »
@GarryMartin

Thats how ive been setting it all along.

the issue is it drags on the rear of the fence so when tighening the fence/locking it down it pull out of square and it is a pain to use.

Making it hard to move to the correct measurement and pulling it out of alignment when tightened.

Especially on the side extension table where the gap is in the rear  V groove between the side extension and the actual CMS.

I find I get much better accuracy and ease of use now using the angle stop/compass that came with the saw.
 I even got that little plastic scale on the front of the saw calibrated so i can use that ILO a tape measure.