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Offline UltraFest

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Festool Sanders
« on: May 01, 2021, 09:42 AM »
Hello Festool Army!
It’s my first post here, been reading a bit for a while now..
I am looking at getting 2 sanders but can’t decide on what to get..
I believe I need one Rotex and one ETS ec.
Majority of the work in summer I do is outside, decks, porches and all kind of wood working like restoration of existing porches ( sending & painting)
Occasionally we build some shelves, tv units cabinets etc..
5 or 6? I need to be comfortable with working with sender as sometimes we will do it for hours, on the floor, over head and in all kinds of positions.. Maybe one Ro sender for rough sending and one for finishing but could also be used for some roug sending if needed..
Thanks for all feedback in advance. Am I too naive thinking that 2 senders would be enough and will end up buying 3-4 at the end?!
Iggy

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Offline rst

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 09:48 AM »
For the tasks you listed I would think the Ro 150 and as ETS EC 150 would be your best options and seriously consider the RO 90.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2021, 10:01 AM »
Getting into square corners will likely require a third, sorry.
Large surfaces = large sanders so I would go with the RO150. The ETS EC might be a different story.
It might be advantageous to go with the ETS EC 125. Since it will accommodate the pads for the 150 version, you could use either size paper, and gain the advantage of the smaller 3mm orbit.
The expensive way to sand in corners is the RO90, and if you do any significant amount of sanding on vertical surfaces, it might be the best choice.
There are other versions of delta sanders, but that's all they do.
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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2021, 10:01 AM »
Am I too naive thinking that 2 senders would be enough and will end up buying 3-4 at the end?!
Iggy

Welcome to the FOG!   [welcome]

I think you're right that you might eventually end up with 3 or 4 sanders, but I certainly wouldn't START with 3 or 4.  Festool has a 30 day like-it-or-return-it guarantee if you buy it brand new, so that should give you enough time to make an informed decision on your first one or two sander choices.

Will you be using dust collection at all?  Don't underestimate the value in having airflow to keep the motor and the sanding discs cooled off and running reliably.

For the tasks you listed I would think the Ro 150 and as ETS EC 150 would be your best options and seriously consider the RO 90.

How much overlap is there between the eccentric mode of the RO 150 and the ETS EC 150?  I can't remember if the RO 150's eccentric mode is a 5mm or 3mm stroke...  An RO 150 and RO 90 would be a pretty good combination, especially the RO90 for rails and the Delta pad.  Once the "finish" work starts on furniture, an ETS or ETS EC might be warranted.

Offline ScotF

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2021, 11:32 AM »
If I were getting two, I would opt for the Rotex 150 and DTS400 for corners and finishing sander. This combination would get you a sander to handle most situations. I would add an ETS later and really like the 125 size for this. Grant paper is my favorite for all of these and of course one of the CT dust extractors too.

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2021, 11:41 AM »
The porch maintenance virtually demands that a Rotex is in your arsenal. I'm assuming however, that the rough/bad/trashed areas that you'd need a Rotex for are relatively small and not huge expanses of wood. If that's the case, then a Rotex 125 would be my choice. Couple this along with an ETS EC 125 that also accepts a 150 mm pad and you now have both 5" and 6" capabilities.

The other missing item is sanding in corners. I'd suggest a RTS or DTS sander because either one is $200 cheaper than a Rotex 90 and you'll probably want to add a dust collector. 

However, thinking about it a little bit more, if the rough/bad/trashed areas are really small, you may be able to get away with just a Rotex 90 and an ETS EC 125 or 150 sander. Rotex 90 for small trashed areas, the ETS EC for general sanding and then the Rotex 90 again for corner sanding with the delta pad.

Offline Alex

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2021, 11:59 AM »
Rotex 150 + DTS 400 if you want to start with 2 sanders. You can litterally do almost any job imaginable with these 2 sanders. Rotex for the rough work and DTS for all finer situations and of course the much needed corners.

Wouldn't hurt to add an ETS 125 (EC model, or not) later on for the fine finish.

But definitely get a dust extractor like a Mini or Midi with your sanders. It is a must.



Offline mrB

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2021, 12:08 PM »
I’d start with the ETS EC 125 + extra 150mm pad.

- It’s likely a sander that fits well into any future lineup.
- It’s the only sander that takes 125&150mm pad sizes.
- It may do all the rough work you need it to with some 40/60 grit paper.
- it might help you decide if you’d prefer to add an RO125 or RO150
- it’s a delight to use.

I’d go for that first and then decide what you’re still missing most. Whether that be a delta sander for the corners or an RO sander for the heavy duty work.
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Offline contendernut

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2021, 01:00 PM »
Don’t forget paper cost. I love the RO150 but didn’t care for the RO125.  Large rough surfaces means Ro150.

The ets ec 150/125 are 400-500 range. Instead of this get the brushed ets 125 for $200 and dts400 for $275. That’s three sanders and three different papers.

Offline afish

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2021, 02:50 PM »
If you want an RO sander I would get the 6" version in the Bosch "GET75-6n).  Its 95% of the Rotex for almost half the price. An ETS ec 125 (150 pad fits) and take the money you saved on getting the Bosch and get a third sander like the DTS or RTS for corners.

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2021, 09:04 PM »
I have a RO90, my first, and the Ro150. I have yet to find a surface I can't make these work on. Maybe the ETS is easier to use in random orbit mode, I find the RO150 a handful in random orbit mode but I don't use it often it will become easier as I learn it. The RO 90 had the steepest learning curve of the two. It is ultra-sensitive to keeping the pads flat on the surface. The 150 of course also needs to be flat but I find the large size easiest to do that with. I would say the RO90 took me an entire day to start to really understand and several days to really become proficient enough that I can use it one-handed now. I do not regret buying either. I don't see the 5mm on the RO 150 as an issue and for really sensitive wood I generally do final hand sand with the finest grit I used, with the grain, old habits die hard. But I get there so much faster with the two Rotex. A friend has the Mirka and loves it as much as I like my Festool.
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Offline UltraFest

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2021, 10:12 PM »
Thank you all for kind replies and for taking your precious time to educate me about senders..
I love power tools and at this stage of my life (almost 50) I tend not to care about the cost and want to be in position to enjoy what I am doing and enjoy the tools I work with. This is my priority.. Money is secondary.. After all I have read so far I am leaning toward getting RO 125 and ETS EC 125 since it will accept 6” pads ( I just learned this reading your comments) and then in future get RO90.. I do have CT26 and Fein cordless multimaster that I use with attachments for sending around corners etc..
So again thank you for your time ❤️

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2021, 10:39 PM »
Just to make sure...the ETS EC 125 accepts 150 pads, the RO 125 does not.

Offline Alex

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2021, 02:33 AM »
After all I have read so far I am leaning toward getting RO 125 and ETS EC 125 since it will accept 6” pads

Knowing both the RO125 and the RO150 intimately, I think it would be a mistake to get the 125 over the 150, the 150 is soooooo much more sander than the 125. The 150 is not only more stable and easier to handle, but also has a bigger surface and has much more power which will make you work much faster.

I only borrow my cousins' 125 when my 150 is too big for the task, and I hate every second of using it instead of my 150.

Offline mrB

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2021, 03:56 AM »
I agree with Alex’s last post.

I own the RO125 and will keep it forever as the 125mm is my favourite and most used paper size. But it is a handful to use, takes some time to master.  While I’ve gotten used to it, I don’t love using it, other than enjoying the speed at which it sands.

The RO150 is faster at removal with its bigger pad and larger 5mm orbit, but it is also way way smoother and easier to use.

But you have the 30 day trial period in the USA so no harm in giving it a go if you feel the 125 size of more your taste.

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Offline Thompmd

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2021, 07:23 AM »
I have the RO150 and while it does a great job especially in rougher applications I think it’s almost too much of a sander to finely finish. I also really like the convenience of having one size set of Granat paper that fits both models.

I don’t have direct experience w/125’s but would be concerned about power as well using a 6” pad doing initial rough surfaces on a large piece.

You touched on money being secondary at this point so I would suggest the ro150 & a 150 w a 3mm vs 5mm stroke.
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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2021, 08:22 AM »
I guess my experience of owning the RO90 first made a difference. The RO90 has arguably the steepest learning curve, making the RO125 seem tame in comparison. I got the RO125 specifically because I already had the ETS EC125, keeping with compatible abrasives.
One of the guys I work with has an RO150, so I have been able to test-drive one a few times, but I don't see an advantage worth keeping 150mm abrasives just for that.
When I need to do rough work on really large surfaces, I get out my IR 328b. It is an 8" pneumatic greared-orbital sander. Of course this is not practical outside of a shop environment, because it is a huge air hog.
That is why I recommended the RO150 to the original poster and the ETS EC 125. You could swap to the 150mm pad to stay with one paper size and 3mm orbit for finer work. Always having the ability to use 125mm paper if needed.
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Offline UltraFest

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2021, 10:34 AM »
I agree with Alex’s last post.

I own the RO125 and will keep it forever as the 125mm is my favourite and most used paper size. But it is a handful to use, takes some time to master.  While I’ve gotten used to it, I don’t love using it, other than enjoying the speed at which it sands.

The RO150 is faster at removal with its bigger pad and larger 5mm orbit, but it is also way way smoother and easier to use.

But you have the 30 day trial period in the USA so no harm in giving it a go if you feel the 125 size of more your taste.

I love that RO 150 is easier to use then 125 but I guess that’s only for flat horizontal surfaces. My main concern about RO 150 is the weight if I have to send something vertical for 2-3 hours 😞.. Would I be better of getting RTS EC 150 5mm instead of ETS EC 125 for some rough vertical sending?
The way I see this developing is I might end up with 4 senders in the near future.. You got a give the Festool marketing department a thumbs up for their work 😅

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2021, 10:56 AM »
My main concern about RO 150 is the weight if I have to send something vertical for 2-3 hours 😞.. Would I be better of getting RTS EC 150 5mm instead of ETS EC 125 for some rough vertical sending?

I don't think you'll be sanding vertically for 2-3 hours with either of the large Rotex sanders...they just weigh too much.  [smile]

That's really where the ETS EC sanders come in to play. The light weight and low center of gravity help immensely. Actually, for extended vertical work, I pick up the ETSC or DTSC sanders, light weight, no cord and no DC hose to be working against you. The only weight you're supporting is the weight of the sander.

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2021, 11:47 AM »
I don't think you'll be sanding vertically for 2-3 hours with either of the large Rotex sanders...they just weigh too much.  [smile]

Yeah, after such a long period you'll probably have halved the thickness of the wood… That being said, the Rotex 150 may not be the best sander to use for a finished look, but just a minute of hand sanding will resolve that, is my experience, in case you wanna stain or oil. For paint (covering!) it doesn’t matter.

IMO the best set to start with is a RO 150 and a DTS 400. Add a ETC EC and you are all set. (I bought the EC 125 with two 150 pads b/c I don’t need the hassle of another size of sandpaper disks to stock up. Which makes sense, right?).
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Offline UltraFest

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2021, 02:11 PM »
So I went to local Festool dealer and was pleasantly surprised with RO 150 size and weight..Last time I had one in my hand was some 2 years ago and I had a impression that it was way bigger and heavier.. So I’ll pul the trigger on RO 150 and ETS Ec 125 and in the future get RO 90..

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2021, 03:42 PM »
I don't think you'll be sanding vertically for 2-3 hours with either of the large Rotex sanders...they just weigh too much.  [smile]

Routine for me.

Funny thing, due to its power, the Rotex will do this the fastest. Sure, an ETS EC 150 is lighter, but you'll be needing two hours extra to do the same job. What is more important, your time, or your muscles? You can get more muscles, but you'll never get more time.

And I never get the comments about the finish quality of the Rotex, sure, it is easier to do with the smaller sanders, but the Rotex can get you there also with the proper technique. You've got two modes to choose from, a whole bunch of RPM's to vary, and 10 different types of paper, ranging from 24 to 1500 grit. Options aplenty.

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2021, 03:58 PM »
I don't think you'll be sanding vertically for 2-3 hours with either of the large Rotex sanders...they just weigh too much.  [smile]

Routine for me.

Funny thing, due to its power, the Rotex will do this the fastest. Sure, an ETS EC 150 is lighter, but you'll be needing two hours extra to do the same job. What is more important, your time, or your muscles? You can get more muscles, but you'll never get more time.

And I never get the comments about the finish quality of the Rotex, sure, it is easier to do with the smaller sanders, but the Rotex can get you there also with the proper technique. You've got two modes to choose from, a whole bunch of RPM's to vary, and 10 different types of paper, ranging from 24 to 1500 grit. Options aplenty.

I was going to add something along the lines of "for decks, porches, and patios, a multi-pass, mirror-smooth finish probably isn't the desired end result for sanding."  Not to discount the value of a consistent, even result, but I've never really thought of outdoor architecture requiring significant gloss/smoothing unless it's restoration of historic Victorian detail work, in which case you're still probably stripping before sanding and then painting over the resulting work.

That's all IMHO, and as an amateur/homeowner who hasn't done this sort of thing for a living.

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2021, 04:53 PM »
I was going to add something along the lines of "for decks, porches, and patios, a multi-pass, mirror-smooth finish probably isn't the desired end result for sanding."  Not to discount the value of a consistent, even result, but I've never really thought of outdoor architecture requiring significant gloss/smoothing unless it's restoration of historic Victorian detail work, in which case you're still probably stripping before sanding and then painting over the resulting work.

That's all IMHO, and as an amateur/homeowner who hasn't done this sort of thing for a living.

I don't get it, what does your comment have to do with anything I said above?  [scratch chin]

And besides that, why would mirror smooth not be desired? Wobbly's preferred? [scratch chin]

Offline mrB

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2021, 05:49 PM »
I agree with Alex’s last post.

I own the RO125 and will keep it forever as the 125mm is my favourite and most used paper size. But it is a handful to use, takes some time to master.  While I’ve gotten used to it, I don’t love using it, other than enjoying the speed at which it sands.

The RO150 is faster at removal with its bigger pad and larger 5mm orbit, but it is also way way smoother and easier to use.

But you have the 30 day trial period in the USA so no harm in giving it a go if you feel the 125 size of more your taste.

I love that RO 150 is easier to use then 125 but I guess that’s only for flat horizontal surfaces. My main concern about RO 150 is the weight if I have to send something vertical for 2-3 hours 😞.. Would I be better of getting RTS EC 150 5mm instead of ETS EC 125 for some rough vertical sending?
The way I see this developing is I might end up with 4 senders in the near future.. You got a give the Festool marketing department a thumbs up for their work 😅

Both rotex are too much for hours of vertical use unless your a strapping young lad/las. I have the ETS EC 125 & Mirka Deros 5mm. Both run at 125mm.
The Mirka removes way faster than the ETS EC. Maybe it’s the 5mm orbit, maybe it’s also the sander.  . Never used the ETS EC 150/5 to compare.

The Mirka is so impressive I’d say with 60 grit it removes as fast as the RO125 with 80 grit.
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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2021, 06:57 PM »
I was going to add something along the lines of "for decks, porches, and patios, a multi-pass, mirror-smooth finish probably isn't the desired end result for sanding."  Not to discount the value of a consistent, even result, but I've never really thought of outdoor architecture requiring significant gloss/smoothing unless it's restoration of historic Victorian detail work, in which case you're still probably stripping before sanding and then painting over the resulting work.

That's all IMHO, and as an amateur/homeowner who hasn't done this sort of thing for a living.

I don't get it, what does your comment have to do with anything I said above?  [scratch chin]

And besides that, why would mirror smooth not be desired? Wobbly's preferred? [scratch chin]

It wasn't intended in contrast to your statement, but in addition to it.

In my mind, a mirror-smooth deck / walking surface is undesirable, especially when wet.  That doesn't mean that a person would want swirl marks everywhere, but if you're going to be covering it up with stain or paint, you're probably not sanding a deck or patio progressively to 400 or 800 grit.

To me, a rank amateur who knows very little about things, there's something about outdoor architectural pieces like decks and patios that says "rough sand it once, finish sand it once, seal or finish it, and move on", compared to a bookshelf or interior hardwood piece of heirloom furniture that might take progressive passes with higher and higher grits, multiple coats of finish, etc.

That said, I also seriously disliked the paint job that I paid to have done on my house a few years ago.  There was a rough scrape, putty fill, prime coat, and final coat (should have been at least two coats of paint on top of the primer).  I wasn't as upset about the lack of second coat as the quality of the base when it was all said and done.  Lap siding should look smooth, not like it had 6 different people scrape off the old paint and miss half of it along the way.

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2021, 09:09 PM »
The Rotex will get you a mirror finish if you want it. It takes a bit more skill with the machine because as easy as the big beast is to handle I actually find random orbit mode harder to use than Rotex mode. I spent two hours today with the Ro90 vertically and should have just used the RO150 because it would have turned the two-hour job into a 35-minute job. I was just being lazy only realized afterwards the mistake in my choice. You'll love your sanders go make some saw dust.
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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2021, 02:20 PM »
The Rotex 150mm has 5mm stroke.

The ETS (EC and brushed) 150 is available in 3 and 5 mm
The ETS EC 125 is 3 mm
The ETS (brushed) 125 is 2mm.

Getting the EC upgrade on the 125 makes it like 65% more expensive...  at least overhere.

The choice in sandpaper is bigger for the 150.

The 125 is nice for some things, but the 150 really covers a lot more surface. It's 20% wider... but that means 44% more surface covered.

Offline UltraFest

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2021, 05:38 PM »
Thanks again everyone, very kind of you!
So I just ordered RO150 and RO90 with extra pads and plenty of sending paper..
I am thinking ordering ETS EC in the next couple of weeks but now stuck with decision which one.
Can someone explain me what is the main deference between them..
Much appreciated..
Iggy

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2021, 06:09 PM »
From what you’ll do, in relation to your OP I think you’re on to a great start!
There’s almost always jobs in line for the RO 150 and 90. I’ve an old Bosch 150 turbo which amazes me how it handles tough removal and then on to fine sanding. They are two handed machines, and this also gives you great control and feel. The 90 fills in where the 150 is way to big, and it handles corners too. I recently bought the ETSC 125 for lighter and one handed work (although, I more than often use both hands, or constantly shifting hands) I’ve yet to try the 125, but it will be a secondary choice compared to the two rotary sanders. Much later I’ll look into a ETS EC 125 for its great ergonomics and the more finish approach of sanding mostly flat surfaces. Now that the temperature rises here, my RO 90 will see loads of use restoring windows and details. I’ve also used it for handheld shaping of smaller wood pieces, the small size makes it a widely universal tool. I’ll always keep it.
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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2021, 02:02 AM »
I am thinking ordering ETS EC in the next couple of weeks but now stuck with decision which one.

Be aware of the issues right now with the ETS EC sanders, you might want to wait till they get it sorted out.

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2021, 07:22 AM »
Thanks again everyone, very kind of you!
So I just ordered RO150 and RO90 with extra pads and plenty of sending paper..
I am thinking ordering ETS EC in the next couple of weeks but now stuck with decision which one.
Can someone explain me what is the main deference between them..
Much appreciated..
Iggy

There are only really two choices: ETS EC 125/3 or ETS EC 150/5

There is no reason to buy the ETS EC 150/3 as it is literally the same sander as the 125 version but will not take the 125mm pad. BUT the 125 version will take the 150mm pad.

So the difference really is the /3 or the /5. That refers to the size of the orbit in mm. 5mm generally removes quicker with a slight reduction in fine finish quality noticeably only to those who are looking for it.


5mm orbit makes sanding up to edges even harder as you struggle not to bump the adjacent edge with that large 5mm orbit fluctuation.

So do you want the 125mm option and the finer finishing, gentler ETC EC 125/3
Or the more aggressive 150/5.
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Offline binettea

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2021, 06:35 PM »
Agree with @Alex, avoid any EC sanders until Festool figures out the issue that is plaguing them. On another note, I had picked up from another FOG post a very interesting article on ROS machine strokes.


http://www.buffdaddy.com/files/1519584/uploaded/KBM-Kevin%20Brown%20Method-Machine%20Stroke%20-%20How%20It%20Affects%20Sanding%20and%20Polishing%20Performance.pdf

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2021, 07:05 PM »
What is the problem with the ETS EC?
Is it a recent thing? The one I have now is from summer of 2019. It has been great. The dust collection aspect and from-factor were the biggest selling points for me. There are days when I don't touch it at all, but others it might get several hours of near continuous use. Never had a problem.
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Offline Cypren

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2021, 09:14 PM »
I concur; if these are having widespread motor problems, it must be fairly recent. I have an ETSC and DTSC (which I believe use the same motor as the ETS EC?) manufactured in Feb. 2018 and March 2019, respectively, and haven’t had any issues.

Offline SDWW2019

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2021, 10:56 PM »
I have had a 150/3 ETS EC on backorder since January. Today I found them available at another large US online dealer... so I decided to go for it and cancelled my original order and placed order with new authorized dealer. The sander arrives early next week and I will keep everyone posted on performance and if I experience any issues. What do I have to lose?

Offline Alex

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Re: Festool Sanders
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2021, 01:18 AM »
I have an ETSC and DTSC (which I believe use the same motor as the ETS EC?)

No, completely different sanders, different motors.