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Offline lerabotperche

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Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« on: March 22, 2019, 07:57 AM »
Hi everybody,I've to buy a powerful floodlight and I'm looking for review from owners of Festool DUO and ScanGrip NOVA 10K.
What is the best ? the most reliable ? Two NOVA 10K or a Festool DUO ?link 1 https://www.festool.com/products/illuminating/working-light/200164---duolink 2
link 3 https://www.scangrip.com/en-gb/products/work-lights/floodlights/nova-10klink 4
thank you
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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2019, 08:29 PM »
I've had one DUO for 2+ years now and a second one for over a year. They make a LOT of light.

Many times the other subs on site have asked if I would be kind enough to leave it behind so they could maximize their day.

What I find most surprising is that for as much as the guys love the DUO (and the sanders), none will actually buy in. I guess they like replacing the halogen bulbs in the flimsy lights that get so hot you can't put them away for fear of what they will melt into.

Sorry, I cannot speak for the ScranGrip.
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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2019, 02:17 AM »
I’ve had a Duo for 2 years and it’s been a workhorse. It’s been dropped a couple times, which didn’t seem to effect it and the tripod is also very sturdy. The quality of the light is also amazing.

I’d highly recommend it.


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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2019, 08:49 AM »
I've had one DUO for 2+ years now and a second one for over a year. They make a LOT of light.

Many times the other subs on site have asked if I would be kind enough to leave it behind so they could maximize their day.

What I find most surprising is that for as much as the guys love the DUO (and the sanders), none will actually buy in. I guess they like replacing the halogen bulbs in the flimsy lights that get so hot you can't put them away for fear of what they will melt into.

Sorry, I cannot speak for the ScranGrip.
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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2019, 09:32 AM »
The Scangrip offerings look impressive!
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Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2019, 08:55 AM »
Just heard back from Scangrip - with the exception of their "Line Light" lamps:

https://www.scangrip.com/en-gb/work-areas/high-performance/line-light-technology

...all of their products are made in China. The "Line Light" lamps are manufactured in Denmark. That kills all interest I had in their aquare work lights. Imagine charging your customers hundreds of dollars for something that you paid people pennies to make? Disgraceful.
ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [nos], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos], Festool MFS 400 w/add-on 700 profiles & router slide (DE) [n]

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Offline threesixright

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2019, 09:32 AM »
Imagine charging your customers hundreds of dollars for something that you paid people pennies to make? Disgraceful.
How is that different for other brands? Samsung, Apple, etc.?

bigclive did a tear down. Conclusion very well made.






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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2019, 11:30 AM »
@threesixright - it's not. But that doesn't mean we as consumers have to buy into the exploitation (both of workers and us). A few minutes on Google and one can usually find a suitable non-sweatshop alternative, be that for a tool, an accessory, a piece of clothing, a widget, etc. In this day and age it's rare that I have to settle for a sweatshop produced product but when I do I'll be damned if I'm going to pay a premium for it. I shop around and bide my time until I find the absolute lowest price. I'm not going to give the these unethical corporate owners and their corrupt banker friends one more penny than I have to.
ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [nos], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos], Festool MFS 400 w/add-on 700 profiles & router slide (DE) [n]

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Offline threesixright

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2019, 12:24 PM »
@TinyShop
Couldn't agree more (in principle).

Forgive my ignorance, how you know Scangrip uses sweatshops? Moreover, isn't it a bit shortsighted measure only production costs? Since development, packaging, certification, website, etc. also cost a ton of money. And to add to that, not all products make it to the market and/or are successful.

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2019, 12:59 PM »
@TinyShop
Couldn't agree more (in principle).

Forgive my ignorance, how you know Scangrip uses sweatshops? Moreover, isn't it a bit shortsighted measure only production costs? Since development, packaging, certification, website, etc. also cost a ton of money. And to add to that, not all products make it to the market and/or are successful.

The main reason that companies do business in countries that lack meaningful protections for labor and the environment is to exploit a desperate workforce and externalize corporate costs onto local ecologies and communities in the furtherance of boosting their bottom lines. Not unlike, mind you, how Festool has pursued the production of a small number of its products in a former Eastern-bloc country like the Czech Republic. The difference, of course, is that Czechia is a member of the E.U. and so is held to similar standards as Germany when it comes to labor laws and laws that protect the environment, etc. But, that being said, Festool definitely saves on labor costs by doing business there given the historic lower standard of living (and corresponding lower pay rates). So, although not ideal, a light manufactured in an E.U. country even one still recovering from government induced impoverishment is a vast improvement over one produced in a country where workers are not allowed to unionize, where pollution is rampant (though this is apparently improving in certain parts of China) and where there is no press freedom, etc.
ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [nos], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos], Festool MFS 400 w/add-on 700 profiles & router slide (DE) [n]

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Offline threesixright

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2019, 01:54 PM »
@TinyShop
Couldn't agree more (in principle).

Forgive my ignorance, how you know Scangrip uses sweatshops? Moreover, isn't it a bit shortsighted measure only production costs? Since development, packaging, certification, website, etc. also cost a ton of money. And to add to that, not all products make it to the market and/or are successful.

The main reason that companies do business in countries that lack meaningful protections for labor and the environment is to exploit a desperate workforce and externalize corporate costs onto local ecologies and communities in the furtherance of boosting their bottom lines. Not unlike, mind you, how Festool has pursued the production of a small number of its products in a former Eastern-bloc country like the Czech Republic. The difference, of course, is that Czechia is a member of the E.U. and so is held to similar standards as Germany when it comes to labor laws and laws that protect the environment, etc. But, that being said, Festool definitely saves on labor costs by doing business there given the historic lower standard of living (and corresponding lower pay rates). So, although not ideal, a light manufactured in an E.U. country even one still recovering from government induced impoverishment is a vast improvement over one produced in a country where workers are not allowed to unionize, where pollution is rampant (though this is apparently improving in certain parts of China) and where there is no press freedom, etc.

I get it, but this is a bit of a slippery slope. Since probably if not parts, then raw materials are most likely sourced from countries where these conditions are bad stuff, and therefor in products you own, eat, drink, wear, etc. Where you draw the line?

To me your statement "made in china" so its a no-go, feels a bit harsh? Maybe Scangrip does take good/reasonable care of their production-force, relative of that of the country. Maybe not, but I'm sure there is some institute/human right watch that looks at this.

I'm not saying you'r wrong, but with this reasoning you should look at the whole supply chain. Not just at fabrication. And then there is the argument to be made: if we would not buy/bought all that stuff from China, how much progress would they have made (since they did)?

Nevertheless, I do  agree we should try to watch what and where we buy and who we support.

BTW I don't own Scangrip (yet), but the lamps look nice  ;)

Offline lerabotperche

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2019, 02:04 PM »
TinyShop, I agree but from my point of view, Germany and Eastern Europ are not that better than China...

ThreeSixRight, thanks for the video ! Make my choice even more difficult.  [big grin]


Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2019, 03:14 PM »
I have both the Scangrip (but the rechargeable EDIT: _5K_ version) and the Duo.

Both are excellent in light output. The Scangrip is quite a lot cheaper and can be used with the built in battery. It does not last that long at max output but I like that you can step down the light output.

For the most part I have used the Scangrip "corded" but in some cases the battery option has been a great asset.  Working in an attic and up on a roof in the dark - no problem - and no having to run out cords to the light. But I digress, the OP is primarily interested in the corded Scangrip.

The Scangrip stand is better than Festool I think and I use it a lot for Lasers as well. It is sold under a few other names as well but the Scangrip branded one is actually pretty cheap over here - with the rebranded ones being up to twice the price.

The Scangrip stand goes up tp 300cm and the Festool stand to 200cm. Definite advantage for Scangrip. Plus, it is cheaper and there are accessories for it.

Scangrip cable is 500cm and DUO cable is 480 cm so roughly the same.

Scangrip has on/off switch and useful range of dimming options, advantage Scangrip here too. 

I haven't used the Duo as much yet but I don't like that it doesn't have an on/off switch and I would prefer if it had an a/c outlet built in (same for my Scangrip of course). For most tasks I prefer the DUO light output.

Bought my DUO on sale (30% off) as the vendor had trouble selling the ones in carboard boxes as pretty much everyone wanted it with the Systainer. I don't really want more Systainers and even without the Systainer and on sale I think the DUO is quite expensive considering the lack of features. 

Keeping both of them, but for slightly different purposes.  I can't say I prefer one over the other really, both are very good.

EDIT: I think it is the version I have which is featured in the video posted in the thread. I agree with the assessment - it is a quality light for sure.
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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2019, 06:38 PM »
Thank you !!!!
a last question : does the light is the same color on both ?

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2019, 12:55 AM »
@threesixright - Sadly, often (if not most of the time) there really aren't any reliable organizations or groups checking up on working conditions, etc., There are the rare cases where a somewhat reliable group is in place but the contractors do everything they can to make conditions look good when inspectors show up (which is never unannounced, mind you). There is a fallacy out there that so-called "ethical sourcing guidelines" which often incorporate third party inspection providers are keeping an eye on things. In most cases, these groups are little more than tools of corporate greenwashing. I've been studying this issue for more than a decade and in almost every case, what a set of guidelines states versus what actually takes place on the ground in a given factory are quite different. Which is why I choose to support manufacturers that do business in countries where "ethical guidelines" are unnecessary (since there are federal laws and enforcement mechanisms in place that preclude their existence).   
ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [nos], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos], Festool MFS 400 w/add-on 700 profiles & router slide (DE) [n]

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Offline Otakar Svojše

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2019, 07:51 AM »
@TinyShop
Couldn't agree more (in principle).

Forgive my ignorance, how you know Scangrip uses sweatshops? Moreover, isn't it a bit shortsighted measure only production costs? Since development, packaging, certification, website, etc. also cost a ton of money. And to add to that, not all products make it to the market and/or are successful.


The main reason that companies do business in countries that lack meaningful protections for labor and the environment is to exploit a desperate workforce and externalize corporate costs onto local ecologies and communities in the furtherance of boosting their bottom lines. Not unlike, mind you, how Festool has pursued the production of a small number of its products in a former Eastern-bloc country like the Czech Republic. The difference, of course, is that Czechia is a member of the E.U. and so is held to similar standards as Germany when it comes to labor laws and laws that protect the environment, etc. But, that being said, Festool definitely saves on labor costs by doing business there given the historic lower standard of living (and corresponding lower pay rates). So, although not ideal, a light manufactured in an E.U. country even one still recovering from government induced impoverishment is a vast improvement over one produced in a country where workers are not allowed to unionize, where pollution is rampant (though this is apparently improving in certain parts of China) and where there is no press freedom, etc.


Quality production in the Czech Republic is at a high level as in Germany. The tradition of production has been since World War II.

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2019, 08:56 AM »
@TinyShop
Couldn't agree more (in principle).

Forgive my ignorance, how you know Scangrip uses sweatshops? Moreover, isn't it a bit shortsighted measure only production costs? Since development, packaging, certification, website, etc. also cost a ton of money. And to add to that, not all products make it to the market and/or are successful.


The main reason that companies do business in countries that lack meaningful protections for labor and the environment is to exploit a desperate workforce and externalize corporate costs onto local ecologies and communities in the furtherance of boosting their bottom lines. Not unlike, mind you, how Festool has pursued the production of a small number of its products in a former Eastern-bloc country like the Czech Republic. The difference, of course, is that Czechia is a member of the E.U. and so is held to similar standards as Germany when it comes to labor laws and laws that protect the environment, etc. But, that being said, Festool definitely saves on labor costs by doing business there given the historic lower standard of living (and corresponding lower pay rates). So, although not ideal, a light manufactured in an E.U. country even one still recovering from government induced impoverishment is a vast improvement over one produced in a country where workers are not allowed to unionize, where pollution is rampant (though this is apparently improving in certain parts of China) and where there is no press freedom, etc.


Quality production in the Czech Republic is at a high level as in Germany. The tradition of production has been since World War II.

I think the Czechs are excellent craftsmen! Now if they would also be a "little-bit" more commercial/service minded (i.e. reply to messages), they would have it all ... 😉 

I'm sure it will come, in the last 10 years they made big steps forward! \o/

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2019, 10:10 PM »
Where would these volunteering slaves working in sweatshops be working if not in their sweatshops at their present rates of pay?

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2019, 10:43 PM »
Where would these volunteering slaves working in sweatshops be working if not in their sweatshops at their present rates of pay?

On their ancestral lands had they not been stolen out from under them.
ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [nos], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos], Festool MFS 400 w/add-on 700 profiles & router slide (DE) [n]

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2019, 12:45 AM »
Getting a little off track in this topic.

Seth

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2019, 02:35 AM »
TinyShop, I agree but from my point of view, Germany and Eastern Europ are not that better than China...
???

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2019, 04:45 AM »
Getting a little off track in this topic.

Seth
Since i've most of the information I've been looking for : why not ? Maybe an highlight of the answer could help the future readers and let people debate as they need ?

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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2019, 05:41 AM »
Getting a little off track in this topic.

Seth
Since i've most of the information I've been looking for : why not ? Maybe an highlight of the answer could help the future readers and let people debate as they need ?

Sorry! Didn't mean to, on the other hand we kept it civil. So thats a win !  [tongue]
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Re: Festool DUO or ScranGrip Nova 10K ? (European market)
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2019, 05:52 PM »
Thank you !!!!
a last question : does the light is the same color on both ?

Color is so similar I would say they are equal, give or take a few Kelvin.
I made a very short video of them both in the same environment. I will try to upload it.
I did have the 3K Scangrip which I would say is pretty much equal in light output with the DUO. 5K and 10K Scangrips would outperform the DUO.

I do like the DUO light spread in general but for larger areas they are pretty much both very good. The advantage of the Scangrip is dimming which is very handy at times. Also, you can pack a Scangrip in a SYS II with room to spare whereas the DUO requires a SYS III.  If I still have the photo I will try to upload it too.
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DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.