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Offline Fotis_S

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Festool CT15
« on: March 12, 2021, 08:58 PM »
Hey people,

I was just wondering if you have any experience with the festool CT15 and if you think it's a tool worth investing in? I currently own the TS55 and the DF500 so that's what I will be using it with if I decide to purchase it. Please share your knowledge with me.

Thanks,

Fotis S.

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Offline ChuckS

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2021, 09:32 PM »
Go for it if you don't need the blue tooth feature.

Since I got it a month ago from Lee Valley Tools, I've used it several times with my DF500 faultlessly. I bought it for the DF500 as well as the Pro5 Ltd sanders, but it also works great for cleaning my workbench with its included accessories.

The dust bags are affordable in a pack of 4. If you make a lot of sawdust, consider using it with a Dust Deputy. But this video seems to suggest that each bag will last quite a bit of time:



As I noted elsewhere, the CT15 has the same cfm as the Midi. The bag is super simple to install -- once you find out how to do it the first time from the instructions printed on the bag.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2021, 09:55 PM by ChuckM »

Offline Eric J

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2021, 09:58 PM »
I use mine with a TS55, RO90, and Bosch router, and it's great. I'm absolutely satisfied with its performance. The cleanup attachments come in handy as well.

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2021, 10:05 PM »
Thank you very much guys. I really appreciate the input!

Offline Coen

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2021, 10:15 PM »
Depends if you need the antistatic hose. If you do... buy the midi.

Also smooth vs ribbed hose

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2021, 10:27 PM »
Speaking of the hose, the CT15 hose is unbelievably light-weight and very easy to handle than the CT26's that I used to own. I won't have to fight the hose when I use the DF500 for delicate milling in a vertical position as seen in the sample image.

I haven't tried it with a sander yet, but I believe the hose won't put a drag on the PRO5 when I hold the sander with only one hand.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2021, 10:31 PM by ChuckM »

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2021, 10:56 PM »
Depends if you need the antistatic hose. If you do... buy the midi.

Also smooth vs ribbed hose

Is there an option to upgrade to an antistatic hose in the future if I chose to?

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2021, 10:58 PM »
Speaking of the hose, the CT15 hose is unbelievably light-weight and very easy to handle than the CT26's that I used to own. I won't have to fight the hose when I use the DF500 for delicate milling in a vertical position as seen in the sample image.

I haven't tried it with a sander yet, but I believe the hose won't put a drag on the PRO5 when I hold the sander with only one hand.

I might sound like a newbie but what's the difference between the antistatic hose and the regural one? All I have found through my research is that the antistatic reduces the chance of a fire starting up?

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2021, 11:03 PM »


Is there an option to upgrade to an antistatic hose in the future if I chose to?
Yes, but not cheap.

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2021, 11:56 PM »
Snip.
I might sound like a newbie but what's the difference between the antistatic hose and the regural one? All I have found through my research is that the antistatic reduces the chance of a fire starting up?

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/static-and-anti-static-hoses/

Related but about the new and old anti-static hoses (not much difference on the inside): https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/festool-antistatic-hoses-what-are-the-differences-here/

I'm not aware of regular hoses causing fire, and had only used an anti-static hose for a brief period of time. All hoses in my shop are non-anti-static. 

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2021, 12:11 AM »


Is there an option to upgrade to an antistatic hose in the future if I chose to?
Yes, but not cheap.

I see. I will look into the midi as well. Thanks

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2021, 12:12 AM »
Snip.
I might sound like a newbie but what's the difference between the antistatic hose and the regural one? All I have found through my research is that the antistatic reduces the chance of a fire starting up?

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/static-and-anti-static-hoses/

Related but about the new and old anti-static hoses (not much difference on the inside): https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/festool-antistatic-hoses-what-are-the-differences-here/

I'm not aware of regular hoses causing fire, and had only used an anti-static hose for a brief period of time. All hoses in my shop are non-anti-static.

I see. Thank you very much for the information

Offline Coen

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2021, 09:13 AM »
Depends if you need the antistatic hose. If you do... buy the midi.

Also smooth vs ribbed hose

Is there an option to upgrade to an antistatic hose in the future if I chose to?

Sure. But price of CT 15 + AS hose might exceed the Midi price.

Speaking of the hose, the CT15 hose is unbelievably light-weight and very easy to handle than the CT26's that I used to own. I won't have to fight the hose when I use the DF500 for delicate milling in a vertical position as seen in the sample image.

I haven't tried it with a sander yet, but I believe the hose won't put a drag on the PRO5 when I hold the sander with only one hand.

I might sound like a newbie but what's the difference between the antistatic hose and the regural one? All I have found through my research is that the antistatic reduces the chance of a fire starting up?

The antistatic hose is slightly conductive, preventing the buildup of static electricity. So it not only prevents sparks when you touch it, but also prevents dust from sticking to the hose surface (inner and outer..). Depends on local humidity and material you work with if you can get away without anti-static.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2021, 09:50 AM »
I might sound like a newbie but what's the difference between the antistatic hose and the regural one? All I have found through my research is that the antistatic reduces the chance of a fire starting up?

Fires are not an issue it's more the case of being zapped if you touch or even come close to something that's grounded. For instance, vacuuming around the band saw and then your arm comes within 1/8" of anything metal on the saw...ZAP. It's not lethal but it is annoying.
I have both a Milwaukee and a Fein that zap me on a regular basis. The work-around is to touch something that's grounded first and then continue to touch the grounded item while you vacuum using the other hand.
On the other hand, if you vacuum the floor or the stairs and there aren't any grounded items nearby, nothing will happen other than you may feel the hair on your arms start to rise.

Offline jussi

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2021, 10:39 AM »
I always thought the claim was that it may damage the electronics of the machine.

Offline Alex

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2021, 11:20 AM »
I always thought the claim was that it may damage the electronics of the machine.

No, it is mostly for user comfort. If you work with a sander or a saw and you touch the hose when the vac is not grounded, you get zapped all the time. It isn't hurtful, but it is pretty irritating.

That doesn't mean that too big of a static charge can't be harmful to your vacs' electronics. According to Festool there was an issue with static when using the first Dust Deputys in the past, because the conducting path of the hose was broken by the DD. Static build up could become very large when using the DD, frying the vacs' electronics when released. This is of course an extreme situation. After getting aware of the problem, Dust Deputy adjusted their design to prevent this.

 

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2021, 11:25 AM »
I always thought the claim was that it may damage the electronics of the machine.

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/anti-static-or-non-anti-static-hose/

None of the hoses I use are anti-static (more or less been like that for the past 2 decades), and I have never had an incident of shock to my body or to a machine in my shop. Dust particle buildup is a zero concern to me, So for me (only), I see no need for the more expensive hoses. Each shop owner should evaluate their own needs.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2021, 11:44 AM »
I've even gotten zapped a couple of times when using a TS 55 and a CT 22 outside. I just figured it was because the outside outlet wasn't grounded.

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2021, 11:52 AM »
On a related note about fire but unrelated to anti-static hoses: I have two fire extinguishers in my shop. Touch wood, they have never been called to service. About time to get them recharged in the spring.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2021, 12:01 PM »
On a related note about fire but unrelated to anti-static hoses: I have two fire extinguishers in my shop. Touch wood, they have never been called to service. About time to get them recharged in the spring.

One in the shop and one in the kitchen.  [smile]


Offline Coen

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2021, 12:06 PM »
I always thought the claim was that it may damage the electronics of the machine.

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/anti-static-or-non-anti-static-hose/

None of the hoses I use are anti-static (more or less been like that for the past 2 decades), and I have never had an incident of shock to my body or to a machine in my shop. Dust particle buildup is a zero concern to me, So for me (only), I see no need for the more expensive hoses. Each shop owner should evaluate their own needs.

Static buildup is more likely in dry climates.

I want the AS hose, and if that means paying €100... well, so be it. I absolutely HATE to get zapped. Also don't like the rising hairs thing with household vacs. Most of those btw have a metal strip in the elbow piece, so at least that part is at the same potential as your body.

Offline Coen

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2021, 12:08 PM »
It's not lethal but it is annoying.

Well depends. If you drop down the ladder as a consequence of being startled by the ZAP it might still be lethal. But no way the coroner will ever find that, so working at height without fall protection will still get the blame.

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2021, 12:10 PM »
Snip.

...one in the kitchen.  [smile]

(Attachment Link)

Absolutely. I also made sure that my family know where it's put (and how to use it)! [big grin]
« Last Edit: March 13, 2021, 12:13 PM by ChuckM »

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2021, 08:14 PM »


Is there an option to upgrade to an antistatic hose in the future if I chose to?
Yes, but not cheap.

I see. I will look into the midi as well. Thanks

The video could have been much shorter (say, under 10 mins in duration) but I believe it would answer most, if not all, of the questions you may have about the CT!5 vs Midi:

« Last Edit: March 13, 2021, 08:19 PM by ChuckM »

Offline nicholam77

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2021, 11:52 PM »
I recently got a CT15 as my first Festool vac. I am happy with it. Uses are with ETS 125 REQ, track saw, and biscuit joiner, pocket hole jig, other small tools. I didn’t need Bluetooth, wheel brake, or manual filter clean. I did order the MIDI hose garage which is compatible, but have not received yet. That’s really my only complaint - the cord and hose storage on the CT15 leaves a bit to be desired out of the box. I will second that I love how light weight the CT15 hose is. I’ve never been zapped by a vacuum so not worried about antistatic at this point. Tool activation and variable suction are awesome.

I suggest make sure you know the differences the MIDI gains you, and if they matter to you. If price is important (it was for me), in my opinion the CT15 is a great value.
CT15 | ETS 125 REQ

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2021, 05:37 PM »
Depends if you need the antistatic hose. If you do... buy the midi.

Also smooth vs ribbed hose

Is there an option to upgrade to an antistatic hose in the future if I chose to?

Sure. But price of CT 15 + AS hose might exceed the Midi price.

Speaking of the hose, the CT15 hose is unbelievably light-weight and very easy to handle than the CT26's that I used to own. I won't have to fight the hose when I use the DF500 for delicate milling in a vertical position as seen in the sample image.

I haven't tried it with a sander yet, but I believe the hose won't put a drag on the PRO5 when I hold the sander with only one hand.

I might sound like a newbie but what's the difference between the antistatic hose and the regural one? All I have found through my research is that the antistatic reduces the chance of a fire starting up?

The antistatic hose is slightly conductive, preventing the buildup of static electricity. So it not only prevents sparks when you touch it, but also prevents dust from sticking to the hose surface (inner and outer..). Depends on local humidity and material you work with if you can get away without anti-static.

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2021, 05:39 PM »
Depends if you need the antistatic hose. If you do... buy the midi.

Also smooth vs ribbed hose

Is there an option to upgrade to an antistatic hose in the future if I chose to?

Sure. But price of CT 15 + AS hose might exceed the Midi price.

Speaking of the hose, the CT15 hose is unbelievably light-weight and very easy to handle than the CT26's that I used to own. I won't have to fight the hose when I use the DF500 for delicate milling in a vertical position as seen in the sample image.

I haven't tried it with a sander yet, but I believe the hose won't put a drag on the PRO5 when I hold the sander with only one hand.

I might sound like a newbie but what's the difference between the antistatic hose and the regural one? All I have found through my research is that the antistatic reduces the chance of a fire starting up?

The antistatic hose is slightly conductive, preventing the buildup of static electricity. So it not only prevents sparks when you touch it, but also prevents dust from sticking to the hose surface (inner and outer..). Depends on local humidity and material you work with if you can get away without anti-static.

I see. I will look into the price difference between the CT15+AS hose and the MIDI and see which one is more affordable. Thanks for your input

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2021, 05:42 PM »
I might sound like a newbie but what's the difference between the antistatic hose and the regural one? All I have found through my research is that the antistatic reduces the chance of a fire starting up?

Fires are not an issue it's more the case of being zapped if you touch or even come close to something that's grounded. For instance, vacuuming around the band saw and then your arm comes within 1/8" of anything metal on the saw...ZAP. It's not lethal but it is annoying.
I have both a Milwaukee and a Fein that zap me on a regular basis. The work-around is to touch something that's grounded first and then continue to touch the grounded item while you vacuum using the other hand.
On the other hand, if you vacuum the floor or the stairs and there aren't any grounded items nearby, nothing will happen other than you may feel the hair on your arms start to rise.

I get it. Yes, that would get annoying very fast. I will look into the antistatic hose for sure. Thanks for your post.

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2021, 05:44 PM »
On a related note about fire but unrelated to anti-static hoses: I have two fire extinguishers in my shop. Touch wood, they have never been called to service. About time to get them recharged in the spring.

Safety first! I have one in the kitchen but not in the shop. I should go get one to have a piece of mind

Offline Fotis_S

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Re: Festool CT15
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2021, 05:48 PM »


Is there an option to upgrade to an antistatic hose in the future if I chose to?
Yes, but not cheap.

I see. I will look into the midi as well. Thanks

The video could have been much shorter (say, under 10 mins in duration) but I believe it would answer most, if not all, of the questions you may have about the CT!5 vs Midi:



Funny thing is this video popped up as a suggestion right after I made this post just to make me feel stupid for not looking it up first