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Offline Birdhunter

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Festool Angle Grinder
« on: July 18, 2019, 03:52 PM »
I am intrigued by the new Festool angle grinder, but, other than steel work, how would one use the tool?
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Offline ear3

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2019, 04:06 PM »
If you don't have a RAS, presumably it can be used for wood sculpting with a Kutzall disc or something similar.  I assume there's an attachment for it to mount sandpaper as well, like there is for other angle grinders?   

I am intrigued by the new Festool angle grinder, but, other than steel work, how would one use the tool?
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Offline mrB

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2019, 04:06 PM »
Variable speed and dusty protection mean it'll make a good cordless Sander for certain tasks :)
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline threesixright

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2019, 04:34 PM »
Cut stone ;-)


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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2019, 05:10 PM »
Surface concrete so it’s smooth if you want to cap it with stone.

I use my Milwaukee 18 volt with a .040” thick cut-off wheel to cut bolts and screws to unusual lengths.

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2019, 06:25 PM »
I use a Dremel tool to trim bolts to length.
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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2019, 07:44 PM »
Curious @Cheese why you use the thicker cut off wheel for this? Does this give better control?

Surface concrete so it’s smooth if you want to cap it with stone.

I use my Milwaukee 18 volt with a .040” thick cut-off wheel to cut bolts and screws to unusual lengths.
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Online Michael Kellough

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2019, 07:47 PM »
Curious @Cheese why you use the thicker cut off wheel for this? Does this give better control?

Surface concrete so it’s smooth if you want to cap it with stone.

I use my Milwaukee 18 volt with a .040” thick cut-off wheel to cut bolts and screws to unusual lengths.

Maybe you misread? I don’t know of a thinner wheel other than some small diameter disks for Dremel.

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2019, 07:49 PM »
Wonder if Festool is going to allow Bluetooth vac/start with this potential spark throwing tool?

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2019, 08:02 PM »
Wonder if Festool is going to allow Bluetooth vac/start with this potential spark throwing tool?

Would need the spark trap for the vac; I don't think they make it anymore :/ could be wrong
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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2019, 08:11 PM »
The old spark trap was discontinued.

No info on a possible replacement.

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2019, 08:20 PM »
The one I normally use is 1/16

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quote author=Michael Kellough link=topic=60148.msg584553#msg584553 date=1563493675]
Curious @Cheese why you use the thicker cut off wheel for this? Does this give better control?

Surface concrete so it’s smooth if you want to cap it with stone.

I use my Milwaukee 18 volt with a .040” thick cut-off wheel to cut bolts and screws to unusual lengths.

Maybe you misread? I don’t know of a thinner wheel other than some small diameter disks for Dremel.
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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2019, 08:22 PM »
Oops, math foul. .04 <1/16

The one I normally use is 1/16

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quote author=Michael Kellough link=topic=60148.msg584553#msg584553 date=1563493675]
Curious @Cheese why you use the thicker cut off wheel for this? Does this give better control?

Surface concrete so it’s smooth if you want to cap it with stone.

I use my Milwaukee 18 volt with a .040” thick cut-off wheel to cut bolts and screws to unusual lengths.

Maybe you misread? I don’t know of a thinner wheel other than some small diameter disks for Dremel.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2019, 10:19 PM »
Ya, years in the past, the thinnest cutoff wheel available was .125”, then the standard became .080”, then .060” and finally .040”. If there was a thinner option available... I’d be the first adopter.

The .040” thick wheel on a 4”-5” grinder will cut through a 5/16” diameter stainless bolt within 4-5 seconds.
It just doesn’t get much better than that from a convenience stand point. Hit it with a burr trimmer and you’re good to go.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 10:31 PM by Cheese »

Offline neilc

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2019, 10:37 PM »
I use my right angle grinders with a wire brush, flap and hard sanding discs and with a cutoff disc.  I have a Makita cordless as well as a Dewalt Cordless - both 4 1/2" with 5/8" arbors.  One on my farm in Arkansas, one in Chicago - based on local battery / accessory availability in each location.

They are great tools.  I'm amazed at how much I use them.

 - awesome for metal work - knocking down welds quickly, truing up cut edges, chamfering edges before welding, cutting bolts, nails, sheet, angle iron, tubing, conduit, etc.
 - rust removal / scale removal / paint removal on steel
 - sharpening lawnmower blades, axes, etc
 - very fast wood removal with a 36 or 40 grit flap sander
 
Neither the Dewalt nor the Makita have a dust collection port.  I'm excited to see the Festool does.  And neither of them are variable speed like the FT.

As a caution, DO NOT use one of these without a guard in place.  AND the side handle.  They WILL grab the work and kick back and could do serious damage to an arm, stomach, or leg with an exposed wheel, brush, or sander.  Unlike an orbital these bite and don't give!  Think ROTEX Mode full on!  Ideally wear a leather apron as well.  With metal they generate a lot of sparks.  Eye protection a must.

They are messy, but amazing tools for rapid stock removal.

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2019, 01:45 AM »
Maybe I'm missing something but where exactly is there any mention of this tool having a dust port?
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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2019, 01:57 AM »
Ya Neil brings up another great use...put a wire brush on for rust removal and a Pferd poly disc on for lawn mower blade and SHOVEL sharpening.

Offline Phil Beckley

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2019, 02:12 AM »
Ya Neil brings up another great use...put a wire brush on for rust removal and a Pferd poly disc on for lawn mower blade and SHOVEL sharpening.

Hi
Two 18v machines are due for release in Europe - Diamond grinder with dust port DSC AGC 125 18v. Applications such as cutting concrete , roof tiles etc
.....and AGC 125 18v standard style grinder - Applications such as re-bar, threaded rod, galvanised profiles......list is endless
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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2019, 04:37 AM »
Will there be a dust port similar to the old DSG-AG 125 (making it suitable for sanding), or is the dust port for concrete cutting style of operation. 
Could be a viable replacement for the RAS line of products.

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2019, 07:19 AM »
@Cheese  said, “Hit it with a burr trimmer and you’re good to go.”

Is a burr trimmer a thing?

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2019, 11:14 AM »
« Last Edit: July 20, 2019, 08:48 AM by Cheese »

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2019, 01:38 AM »
As the OP, I fail to see any need for this tool in a Woodworking shop.
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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2019, 03:56 AM »
As the OP, I fail to see any need for this tool in a Woodworking shop.

There probably isn't much use for it in many woodworking situations depending on what's being made. A very versatile tool in other applications though.

I think @Cheese was suggesting other uses for the machine, if they can take different type discs/blades etc? Obviously the working RPM has to be considered.

It looks a handy tool though, we have a couple of 18 v brush less Makita 125mm grinders, and like the other poster mentioned, they have a multitude of uses. I get what @Cheese is suggesting, just last week we had to cut down 200 M10 bolts, and chose a thin cutting disc and a Burr trimmer and a vice to do the job. No problem  [thumbs up]

As somebody also said, no dust port on the Makita but, we recently bought a couple of Makita dust shrouds complete with dust ports.
I think they were £60 each, and they have transformed the little grinders. I'm amazed at how well the dust is collected. We chase walls, cut through render with them, tiles, just about everything. Like a lot of tools of this design, the closer the tool is to the work surface, the better the dust extraction.

As much as I'm happy with what we've got, I will look at the Festool version with interest, as it looks a lot less bulky than counterparts.

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2019, 07:50 AM »
As the OP, I fail to see any need for this tool in a Woodworking shop.

@Birdhunter quite a few folks out there carve wood as part of their process. Put one of the many power carving wheels on an angle grinder and you have an excellent tool. Cordless is a big bonus. Rather than turn bowls on a lathe there are those that use the carving wheels to hollow out irregular shaped bowls.

Here are a couple of great examples of these applications. They may not be your cup of tea but they are outstanding craftsmen.

http://www.nugeandwood.com/

https://cbmdesigngroup.com/

Ron

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2019, 09:11 AM »
I guess my vision of woodworking was way too narrow. Thanks for the comment.
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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2019, 09:27 AM »
in an application that a bit closer to regular woodworking, many people use a cutting wheel on an angle grinder to rough out those fancy sculpted seat bottoms for chairs and benches.

Ron

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Re: Festool Angle Grinder
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2019, 10:50 AM »
If you want to stay strictly within the woodworking vernacular, you can put different wire wheels on the grinder and distress wood for that "old used for years" look.  [smile]







« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 11:03 AM by Cheese »