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Offline JINRO

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Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« on: September 06, 2022, 01:21 PM »
Does anyone know if this can be also used with power cord? Or is this strictly battery only?
https://www.festoolusa.com/products/dust-extraction/cordless-extractor/576941---ctc-sys-i-hepa-basic-us

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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2022, 01:37 PM »
Battery only, either 4.0 or 3.1 18 volt Li batteries.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2022, 01:40 PM by Cheese »

Offline Bob Lee

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2022, 03:53 PM »
Did it just show up on USA site or was it there before? I known that UK is getting them next month.

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2022, 04:29 PM »
Did it just show up on USA site or was it there before? I known that UK is getting them next month.

It was only recently added.  I received at least 2 or 3 emails from retailers today telling me that it's going to be released soon.

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2022, 07:36 PM »
Yes, cordless (battery) only. They were announced in North America just this morning.
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Offline Laminator

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2022, 08:20 PM »
Does anyone know if 5.2a batteries will work with this unit?

Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2022, 10:45 PM »
Does anyone know if 5.2a batteries will work with this unit?

I don't know this for a fact but from the picture, it looks like the 5.2 batteries are too thick to fit.  I am ordering one for sure, have been waiting for something like this.

Offline Bob Lee

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2022, 11:09 PM »
Does anyone know if 5.2a batteries will work with this unit?

Won't work based on previous discussion and pictures from a show in Europe

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2022, 05:56 AM »
I am disappointed that this is not a hybrid that can be powered from either the
batteries or from mains power and when not powered up recharge the batteries.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2022, 07:46 AM »
I am disappointed that this is not a hybrid that can be powered from either the
batteries or from mains power and when not powered up recharge the batteries.

That would have been a nice touch and you wouldn't have to haul around the extra Duo Charger, just a power cord.

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2022, 09:37 AM »
That was my thinking too. Does the charger store in the vac?

If yes then it seems a built-in charger/power supply would have fit too.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2022, 09:54 AM »
That was my thinking too. Does the charger store in the vac?

If yes then it seems a built-in charger/power supply would have fit too.

Not on the CTC SYS, but there is an optional pocket to hang on the CTC MIDI.


Offline Laminator

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2022, 08:57 PM »
How can they sell the "tool only" version if none of your batteries will work? 

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2022, 10:12 PM »
As mentioned above, only the 4.0Ah or 3.1Ah flat pack batteries will work. The 5.2Ah will not fit onto the extractor.

Although it's not the Duo charger which is coming to the US market in 2023 - a good option for picking up a charger and pair of 4.0 batteries is the Plus version of T18-E drill. At $299, it goes for less than purchasing the included TCL 6 charger and pair of batteries separately.

Offline bwehman

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2022, 01:12 PM »
You're the best.

Offline Yardbird

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2022, 01:56 PM »
In addition to the T18-E drill, you also get a systainer at no additional cost. 

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2022, 02:35 AM »
This just appeared on the FFX website in the UK. Over $700 including 4 x 4.0Ah batteries and charger. For a 4.5-litre vac. Ouch. I guess that many purchasers will already be invested in the Festool battery platform though - so cost of the basic machine won’t be so scary. But for others - I think they’ll be looking elsewhere.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2022, 02:39 AM by woodbutcherbower »

Offline Laminator

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2022, 08:45 AM »
Just going by the advertisements i received, the $700.00+ package appears to only have two of the 4.0 batteries.

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2022, 08:54 AM »
Just going by the advertisements i received, the $700.00+ package appears to only have two of the 4.0 batteries.

In the UK, it's definitely four batteries plus a double charger. The set number over here is 576945.

Offline Coen

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2022, 11:24 AM »
Battery only, either 4.0 or 3.1 18 volt Li batteries.

Hehe, is the 3.1 based on 18650's? That is definitely gonna give reduced performances compared to the 4 Ah 21700 based batteries. Higher density 18650's aren't really suited for high-drain applications like this thing. I read 20 minutes on full power with 2x 4 Ah.

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2022, 01:25 PM »

I read 20 minutes on full power with 2x 4 Ah.


 [eek] Wow. Is that really the case? That's not exactly real-world usable, is it?

If that figure's correct, it drops straight into the same category as the new 'hybrid' Transit Custom which Ford have released over here to jump on the e-vehicle bandwagon. It will only do 30 miles on a battery charge under 'ideal conditions' before a gutless little 1.0-litre petrol engine takes over. 'Ideal' = empty, and driving along a flat road with no gradients. In the real world, it will spend its life driving uphill with a ton in the back and two fat builders in the front. The actual range will be maybe half that at best. I'll personally stay with my 185-horsepower diesel version, thanks.

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Offline Coen

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2022, 02:37 PM »

I read 20 minutes on full power with 2x 4 Ah.


 [eek] Wow. Is that really the case? That's not exactly real-world usable, is it?

If that figure's correct, it drops straight into the same category as the new 'hybrid' Transit Custom which Ford have released over here to jump on the e-vehicle bandwagon. It will only do 30 miles on a battery charge under 'ideal conditions' before a gutless little 1.0-litre petrol engine takes over. 'Ideal' = empty, and driving along a flat road with no gradients. In the real world, it will spend its life driving uphill with a ton in the back and two fat builders in the front. The actual range will be maybe half that at best. I'll personally stay with my 185-horsepower diesel version, thanks.

The 20 minutes is from the recent GoTools TV episode. On the local Festool website it says 14-25 minutes for 2x4Ah.

What else you expect? The Festool has a longer hose than any of the other battery powered vacs and is supposed to perform better. That simply requires more power consumption.

The Bosch 18v lasts 14 minutes on a single 4 Ah. Bosch claims 4 minutes per Ah. The Festool has two modes.

Those hybrid cars are designed around tax breaks.

I used my 18v Bosch this week while replacing a fuse box. Removed old fuse box, removed old wood on the wall, clean up old drill holes etc, added new piece of pliewood, mounted new fusebox. On 8Ah battery is lasts ~28 minutes. That is long enough so clean up the work area.

Offline Jeff Zanin

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Re: Festool 576941 CTC SYS Cordless Dust Extractor
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2022, 07:54 PM »
I have the M18 vacuum that I bought for a specific project involving removing the concrete dust from holes, it was perfect for that and allowed us to do everything without AC power.  I don't know how long it would last if I just let it run, but it can take a pretty big battery, and I don't use it continuously.  I have found it very handy for many small clean-up tasks, even though it has a very short hose that doesn't connect to anything but the two small attachements provided.  Of course it doesn't stack with other systainers either, so not as handy to bring especailly on a Sys-Roll.

The CTC is obviously much more expensive, with a longer hose, more attachments, probably more power and other features.  It looks lke there is a "Plus" version with two batteries and the dual charger coming later, so I will stick with the M18 for now but might get the CTC Plus when it becomes available.