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Offline PatchWork

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Dust/Vaccume accessories
« on: September 02, 2021, 09:23 AM »
Hello,
Iv recently just purchased my first Festool sander a ETS 125, I have a normal hover in my shop with a 35mm hose can any one advice me on the correct adapter to buy so I can use it with my sander?
Cheers guys
Patch
Patch Work

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Offline Coen

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2021, 01:04 PM »
Hi welcome to FoG.

What do you mean with "normal hover"  [huh]?

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2021, 01:23 PM »
Welcome to the FOG! :) OP always good to put your country of origin in for links etc.

A Hover to me is an upright vacuum cleaner *shrugs*

My recommendation would not be to use an adapter as it will make the end of the hose stiff right where the most flexibility is needed. The best option is a D27 new style hose in a 3.5m or my preferred 5m length. The hoses are super flexible and should plug into most any shop type vacuum cleaner as they are pretty universal. Plus it should plug onto the end of your 35mm hose.
https://www.festool.com/accessory/204922---d2732x5m-asctr

Offline PatchWork

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2021, 02:41 PM »
Hi all
Sorry guys my bad I’m based in the uk and my shop hoover or dust extractor is a vacumaster iv attached a link.
https://www.cleva-uk.com/collections/wet-and-dry-vacuum-cleaners/products/vacmaster-multi-20-pto
Hope this helps?
So if I buy the Festool hose will that attach to my vacumaster?
Cheers
Patch

Offline Coen

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2021, 03:38 PM »
Euh, the type that blasts the finest dust straight out? You don't really want to use that indoors with sanding dust anyway.

Offline PatchWork

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2021, 03:42 PM »
Hi
So what would you recommend?
Patch

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2021, 10:32 PM »
Use what you got. I have the same vac brand and started using it with a Bosch hose which has a 27mm end, but is a 35mm hose. Yes the Festool hose will plug straight in as the vac ends are pretty standardized. Eventually the filter will plug and need to be cleaned but it will get you started. A Dust Deputy helps remove most of the dust before getting into the vac, but throwing money at a basic vac doesn't make much sense (From someone who did just that). OR you can buy a Festool dust collector that comes WITH the right hose, but that comes at a much higher cost.

This hose is cheap and ready to go! BUT it is not anti-static, although I used one for over a year with no issues. "Bosch VAC005"

By the time you buy both replacement Festool ends and the hose you might have well bought the superior Festool hose, but this hose is anti-static. "BOSCH VAC008" I am not sure of the part numbers needed for the Festool parts.

I will say one of the best reasons I love my Festool vac over the SUPER LOUD Vacmaster is well I hate loud noises. Vacmaster is a powerful vac though.

Edit: Oh Festool allows the suction to be reduced which is good when sanding but you can create a hole in the hose system easily enough.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2021, 10:35 PM by Peter_C »

Offline xedos

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2021, 09:11 AM »
Euh, the type that blasts the finest dust straight out?

Not really.   It has a pleated filter and a filter bag just like most "dust extractors".  Will it filter to the same micron level as a HEPA rated CT ?   Doubtful, but with a suitable hose it will be good enough to use indoors.


PW - the Vacmaster shows as shipping with a tapered stepdown  " Universal Power Tool Adaptor" that should easily mate to a festool sander.

I'd suggest getting one of these hoses instead, because they are longer and have locking adapters that will fit practically any powertool you have.  Pick your length, static/anti-static, 2 adapters/ multi adapters, ect.....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=Cen-Tec+Systems+94709&ref=nb_sb_noss

  The Bosch VAC005 is a quality hose, I have a couple.  They were a real steal a couple of years ago when they sold for $20-$25  [eek]    However, I find them a too large and stiff for use with a small sander.

Offline Coen

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2021, 01:09 PM »
Well, the "big" dust is not really the problem, the fine dust is. A vac with a lousy filter that just exhales the fine dust all over the place is pretty useless.

Maybe vacs of 70 bucks have come a long way, but I doubt it.

Offline xedos

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Re: Dust/Vaccume accessories
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2021, 03:11 PM »
Well, the "big" dust is not really the problem, the fine dust is. A vac with a lousy filter that just exhales the fine dust all over the place is pretty useless.

Maybe vacs of 70 bucks have come a long way, but I doubt it.

They have.

The filtering capability of a pleated secondary filter coupled to a paper of fleece bag is quite good.  Not to HEPA levels, but most guys don't need that level anyway.   Besides, if the entire vacuum isn't completely sealed and certified - a HEPA rated filter on its own rather wasted.

Remember that the first two generation of CT's had plain ol' pleated filters and paper bags (same as the vacumaster) and y'all thought they'd hung the moon. 

PW's vac will easily make for clean enough sanding indoors.   No need to spend 500-1000 for .00x% better filtration on it's own.   Now, if one wants 15A tool triggering, hose storage, systainer storage, best in class hose with longer reach, and less noise along with better filtration - then a CT is arguably the best choice.  Not everyone needs or wants all those though.