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Offline Bob Michaels

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Festool abbreviations
« on: February 05, 2007, 08:58 PM »
Could someone supply a list of what the Festool abbreviations stand for (i.e. FEQ, OF, TS, etc., etc.).  Maybe Bob Marino.  Thanks
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Offline MarkusS

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2007, 02:46 AM »
I can give it a try - having said that I never saw the "official list of Festool-abbreviations" - most of it is German - or at least makes most sense if explained with german words:

OF = OberFräse = ("upper-router") router (in Germany almost any time a plunge-router, never saw a fixed base router over here, although Bosch introduced a "convertible" router a few month ago)

TS = TauchSäge = ("plunge-saw") in the US, this is simply sold as circular saw, in Germany we distinguish the "normal" circular saw in standard circular saws with fixed riving knife and pendulum cover and in plungable circular saws, usually without pendulum cover and with spring loaded riving knive - this constructions are related to our security standards, they changed this standard a few month ago, so it is possible to sell circular saws without riving knife and with pendulum cover which can be used for plunging too. There are some circular saws in the german market which combine a spring loaded riving knife with a pendulum cover (Hilti WSC 255 and WSC 265, both made by Mafell, some other Mafell-saws).

MFT = MultiFunktionsTisch = MultiFunctionTable

PS = PendelStichsäge = Pendulum Stroke Jigsaw

PSB PendelStichsäge Bügelgriff = Pendulum Stroke Jigsaw - Bügelgriff is the clamp-like handle

TDK = don't know, same with C (C12)

CT = CleanTec (dust extractors), L in CTL - "Staubklasse L". M in CTM = "Staubklasse M" - "Dustclass M", where the M stands for a dust extraction system that lets only 0,1% of the dust pass while L may pass up to 1% - there is a international standard which describes these dustclasses (IEC 335-2-69)

HL = HobeL = Planer

EHL = EinhandHobeL = Einhand - Onehanded Planer (not sold in the US?)

FS = FührungsSchiene = Führung = Guide ("the Führer") - Schiene = Rail

DF = DübelFräse = Joiner Router (Domino)

I think this are the "most important" abbreviations, if we go to the accessories this will take days or weeks to translate - if possible.

If you have questions about some special abbreviations you can ask here, I'll try to explain / translate it.

Regards
Mark
« Last Edit: February 06, 2007, 02:59 AM by MarkusS »

Offline Bob Marino

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2007, 08:33 AM »
I can give it a try - having said that I never saw the "official list of Festool-abbreviations" - most of it is German - or at least makes most sense if explained with german words:

OF = OberFräse = ("upper-router") router (in Germany almost any time a plunge-router, never saw a fixed base router over here, although Bosch introduced a "convertible" router a few month ago)

TS = TauchSäge = ("plunge-saw") in the US, this is simply sold as circular saw, in Germany we distinguish the "normal" circular saw in standard circular saws with fixed riving knife and pendulum cover and in plungable circular saws, usually without pendulum cover and with spring loaded riving knive - this constructions are related to our security standards, they changed this standard a few month ago, so it is possible to sell circular saws without riving knife and with pendulum cover which can be used for plunging too. There are some circular saws in the german market which combine a spring loaded riving knife with a pendulum cover (Hilti WSC 255 and WSC 265, both made by Mafell, some other Mafell-saws).

MFT = MultiFunktionsTisch = MultiFunctionTable

PS = PendelStichsäge = Pendulum Stroke Jigsaw

PSB PendelStichsäge Bügelgriff = Pendulum Stroke Jigsaw - Bügelgriff is the clamp-like handle

TDK = don't know, same with C (C12)

CT = CleanTec (dust extractors), L in CTL - "Staubklasse L". M in CTM = "Staubklasse M" - "Dustclass M", where the M stands for a dust extraction system that lets only 0,1% of the dust pass while L may pass up to 1% - there is a international standard which describes these dustclasses (IEC 335-2-69)

HL = HobeL = Planer

EHL = EinhandHobeL = Einhand - Onehanded Planer (not sold in the US?)

FS = FührungsSchiene = Führung = Guide ("the Führer") - Schiene = Rail

DF = DübelFräse = Joiner Router (Domino)

I think this are the "most important" abbreviations, if we go to the accessories this will take days or weeks to translate - if possible.

If you have questions about some special abbreviations you can ask here, I'll try to explain / translate it.

Regards
Mark

 Thanks, Mark!

 Bob
Former Festool  Dealer since 2002; user well before that!

Offline bill-e

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2007, 09:23 AM »
CDD = Cordless Drill Driver
TDD = T-Shape Drill Driver
TDK = TDD Kompakt (compact). They changed the name from TDD to TDK because the TDK was more compact.

Offline Bob Michaels

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2007, 09:28 AM »
Thanks MarkusS, I thought maybe the abbreviations would be more meaningful on a global scale.   Inquiring minds wanted to know.  Regards, Bob.
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Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2007, 12:36 PM »
Thanks Marcus and Bill.  I always wondered about these -now I know.  :)
Cheers,   
               Frank (Festool connoisseur)

Offline Eli

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2007, 03:03 PM »
I want to bump this thread, add a quote from Martin Chapman (thanks), and suggest Matthew move this thread to the Reference Library.

Jeff,
The individual parts of the Festool product codes have a specific meaning.
In the UK for example the TS55 EBQ Plus FS GB saw breaks down as follows;
TS = Plunge Saw
55 = Depth of cut (in mm)
E = Electronics (variable speed plus soft start)
B = Brake
Q = Plug it removable mains cable system
Plus = Comes in a Systainer case
FS = Comes with a Guide Rail
GB = GB spec with UK 3 pin plug

I would assume the same applies in the States so a RO 150 FEQ-PLUS would be
RO - Rotary and Orbital motion (Rotex)
150 - 150mm diameter sanding disc
F = Think this is the Fast fix removable sanding pad system
EQ = Electronics (variable speed plus soft start) and Plug it mains cable
Plus = Comes in a Systainer case

Hope this helps - Martin.
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Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2007, 08:56 AM »
Eli,
That's the spirit!  Thanks for bringing this post back to the top.  As with all forums, gems are often hidden just becaue of the passing of time.
Sounds like a good idea to me to put this in the "Reference Library."

If anyone knows of other abbreviations to add, go ahead and put them here.

Stay in touch,
Matthew

FOG Designer and Creator

Offline GaryLaroff

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2008, 02:52 PM »
What is the difference between the ES 125 EQ and ETS 125 EQ?  I had thought the ES had a larger orbit, but both sanders seem to have 2.0 mm orbits.

They have slightly different speed ranges, but that does not seem to be the issue.  The electronic speed control is accounted for in the E of EQ, so that is not an issue.  Based on an old working knowledge of German and the Festool German website, here are my guesses, but I would prefer to hear the official difference in the sanders and to know what ES and ETS really stand for.

My guesses:

ES = Exzenterschleifer = eccentric or random orbit sander

ETS = Exzenterschleifer mit Tellerbremse = random orbit sander with platen brake.

Can anyone assist here?

Gary

Offline Forrest Anderson

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2008, 04:07 PM »
What is the difference between the ES 125 EQ and ETS 125 EQ?  I had thought the ES had a larger orbit, but both sanders seem to have 2.0 mm orbits.

The official difference is given on the Festool USA website, in their Support Knowledgebase:


http://www.festoolusa.com/support/Support-Article.html?ArticleID=248

Q: What are the differences between the new palm sanders: RTS400, DTS400 and ETS125; compared to the older models: RS400, DS400 and ES125?

A:  The improvements made to the new palm sanders, ETS125, RTS400, DTS400 are mainly internal; you may not notice any difference in how they look. The counterweight has been reshaped to provide better balance and stability. The cooling fan housing is now made of metal and the new fan is less likely to come in contact with the housing. This lessens the tendency for the sander to hop around, and will result in fewer swirl marks. On the ETS125, the rubber pad brake now has holes around the periphery. This prevents vacuum lock when connected to a vacuum, which allows for better pad rotation, making the sander easier to move across the work piece. This will also results in fewer swirl marks. Some have felt that these new sanders are not as aggressive as the older models. What you are actually noticing is improved performance and less vibration due to the improvements.


Forrest

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Offline Don H

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2022, 04:40 PM »
I am brand new to Festool.  Been looking for a long time and finally took the plunge and bought a duct extractor and now ready to take another plunge with the TS 55 FEQ.  All I am wanting to do is order a rip blade when I place my order.  Every blade I look at states "NOTE: Not compatible with TS 55, TSC 55, or TS 75 Series Saws." and I have no idea what TSC, HK, or HKC mean.  On the Festool product page under saw blades it states "Color coding makes it easier to select the correct saw blade" but where is the color code legend.  I wish there was a store nearby, it would make it so much easier. 

Offline mino

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2022, 05:08 PM »
I am brand new to Festool.  Been looking for a long time and finally took the plunge and bought a duct extractor and now ready to take another plunge with the TS 55 FEQ.  All I am wanting to do is order a rip blade when I place my order.  Every blade I look at states "NOTE: Not compatible with TS 55, TSC 55, or TS 75 Series Saws." and I have no idea what TSC, HK, or HKC mean.  On the Festool product page under saw blades it states "Color coding makes it easier to select the correct saw blade" but where is the color code legend.  I wish there was a store nearby, it would make it so much easier.
These may be old labels. The older TS models used 2.2 mm kerf blades while there were 1.8 mm kerf rip blades designed for the HK/HKC saw series. These warnings were to notify people they cannot use thes on the TS series saws which (were) all 2.2 kerf or more in case of TS75.

If you want to be 100% sure, check which blades are listed under accessories for the TS55 FEQ you plan to get. If you are OK reasearching a bit, then know that the TS55 FEQ is designed to work with 1.8/1.2 blades and it can accept any such blades which are a maximum of 160 mm and a minimum arounf 150 mm.

The 1.8 mm is the kerf width and the 1.2 mm is the steel disc width. Both need to match to ensure the correct cut line vis-a-vis the Rail anti-splinter strip position.

Ref. the 2.2 blades/saws, the reason you cannot use 1.8 blades with the (older) TS saws is their riving knife is about 2.1mm thick and it would create a safety hazard forcing it. In the same way using a 2.2 kerf blade with a 1.7mm thick riving knife of the TS55 FEQ would be a safety hazard as the riving knife cannot do its function with too-big a gap.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool abbreviations
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2022, 05:11 PM »
Here's the easy way to do it.  [smile]  You need the new 1.8 mm thin kerf blades.