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Offline mcooley

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Carvex pendulum fix
« on: May 12, 2022, 04:36 PM »
I found this interesting and helpful.


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Offline Alex

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2022, 05:49 PM »
Nice video, I'm gonna see if I can find that threaded pin he got and fix my Carvex.

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Festool makes so much well engineered, brillaint tools, and do this jigsaw so incredibly bad.

Mind you, they soon realised how bad their first try, the PS400, was and then made their second try, the PS420 only just marginally better, but still utterly junk. It's like they're not even trying. [doh]

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2022, 06:28 PM »
I saw that video a week or so ago. Looks interesting, but I'm not sure I want to dig that deep into my Carvex?
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2022, 06:36 PM »
I saw that video a week or so ago. Looks interesting, but I'm not sure I want to dig that deep into my Carvex?

I saw it posted on the Facebook SawStop group when someone asked about the Carvex. I didn't even realize my Carvex had a problem until I saw that video. [lol]
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2022, 07:21 PM »
Mine has always had the slop and I originally got it from the recon sale a few years back. A fix is in order and dare I say a factory fix from Festool on all these etc. I am not sure how that pin is supposed to stay put if not mechanically fixed like he said either with threads or glue. It's a simple enough task from watching the video but the problem seems ubiquitous.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2022, 08:11 PM »
As a Moderator I am supposed to tell all to not modify your tools or post about your modifications here.

Taking that hat off, I saw that video thru Facebook and actually ordered the pins.  They are sitting on my MFT wondering if I will use one.

My concern with that video is that it did not speak to how it affected the adjustable orbital action.  Also once that new part is put in place and if it doesn't work then there isn't a way to go back to what you had.

So in other words, I found it tempting but have chickened out at least temporarily.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2022, 09:05 PM »
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Does this fix effect use of the oscillation function?

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No, the osiclation function goes backwards from the point at which the blade is held in the straight position, creating the oscillating action

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2022, 11:52 AM »
Can't find 4x12 screws on Amazon - closest is 4x10. He mentions 3-4 mm protruding after install. Wondering if 10 will fit?

I'm SO ready to try - if this fix WORKS it would be like getting a free Mafell with soft start and strobe light!
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2022, 11:58 AM »
Can't find 4x12 screws on Amazon - closest is 4x10. He mentions 3-4 mm protruding after install. Wondering if 10 will fit?

I'm SO ready to try - if this fix WORKS it would be like getting a free Mafell with soft start and strobe light!

These are 4x12:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09D9HXSFD?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2022, 12:01 PM »


These are 4x12:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09D9HXSFD?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
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PERFECT - Thanx! I tried searching 11 different ways and could NOT come up with that listing.

I'm ordering now.
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2022, 04:09 PM »
Looking forward to the moment 4 years from now when I can't remember why I have 19 of these things in my desk drawer.....

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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2022, 07:38 PM »
Looking forward to the moment 4 years from now when I can't remember why I have 19 of these things in my desk drawer.....

Right? I ordered some yesterday and was thinking the same thing.

If anyone wants one of the extras, PM me an address and I'll drop one in the mail for you.

I think I've got some stamps somewhere...
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2022, 08:02 PM »
Really? Did you buy some "forever" stamps and just wait to get the most value out of them? LOL
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2022, 08:22 PM »
Really? Did you buy some "forever" stamps and just wait to get the most value out of them? LOL

I'm positive there's an old sheet of them in a garage bin next to some old flip phones and couple Walkman :D
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2022, 10:28 PM »
Looking forward to the moment 4 years from now when I can't remember why I have 19 of these things in my desk drawer.....

This was one of the funniest things I read tonight.  [big grin]

Really? Did you buy some "forever" stamps and just wait to get the most value out of them? LOL

I'm positive there's an old sheet of them in a garage bin next to some old flip phones and couple Walkman :D

We're cleaning out my grandmother-in-law's house; I haven't seen that many stamps with actual cent values since I cleaned out the junk boxes I still had from my college dorm...  I wonder if I could put 58 of the "makeup" stamps on a single envelope and get away with it...  I think I have the 2-cent makeup stamps, too.  Those'll come in handy this July...

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2022, 02:38 AM »

These are 4x12:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09D9HXSFD?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

Excellent, thank you very much!
This item is already sold out on the European amazon webshops! I ordered a few (I have several carvex) from amazon US.
Hopefully someone can find and share alternative link to order them in Europe.
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2022, 02:50 AM »
BTW, it would be nice to have the input of a Festool engineer on this issue and fix, esp. re. pros and possible cons of the fix. Please Festool managers, allow one of your technical employees to speak on this. Or could you provide a similar fix freely (i.e. through a recall) to the owners?
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Offline tsmi243

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2022, 08:40 PM »
Gentlemen-

If you do this mod, and the blade eject jams up...... Back it off a couple threads.  JFC that was frustrating to figure out.

I also had to clearance the housing a tiny bit, the 12mm length was a little much.  No big deal.  If I take this god forsaken thing apart again, I'm going to drill a thru-hole so I can adjust the tension without disassembly.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2022, 09:28 PM »
These can be bought at numerous places with better stock than Amazon. Search for K0384.10410 if you want M4x10

Nice video, I'm gonna see if I can find that threaded pin he got and fix my Carvex.

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Festool makes so much well engineered, brillaint tools, and do this jigsaw so incredibly bad.

Mind you, they soon realised how bad their first try, the PS400, was and then made their second try, the PS420 only just marginally better, but still utterly junk. It's like they're not even trying. [doh]

Well, at least the PS 300 became cheaper after the Carvex arrived. I bought a PS 300 mainly because I was afraid it would disappear  [tongue] and didn't want the Carvex(' price tag).

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2022, 10:31 PM »
Gentlemen-

If you do this mod, and the blade eject jams up...... Back it off a couple threads.  JFC that was frustrating to figure out.

I also had to clearance the housing a tiny bit, the 12mm length was a little much.  No big deal.  If I take this god forsaken thing apart again, I'm going to drill a thru-hole so I can adjust the tension without disassembly.

Just did this on my PS 420. My Carvex is from Recon so my warranty is up soon. Why not? The trickiest part was removing the pin but otherwise it's an easy mod. And yeah, the 12mm grub is just a bit too long. I used the tip of a utility blade to carve out a hole for the extra length and to allow front access for the Allen key. The Allen head can be accessed with the chip guard lowered.

I've got lots of extra screws if anyone wants one. PM your address. @mcooley yours will get dropped in the mailbox tomorrow.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2022, 10:58 PM »
So, I own a Trion and I like it...I own a Carvex and I hate it...I also own a P1 cc and I love it. For those who've done this modification, what are the advantages? What does this modification provide that a standard Carvex doesn't? What exactly is the itch that this modification scratches?

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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2022, 12:06 AM »
So, I own a Trion and I like it...I own a Carvex and I hate it...I also own a P1 cc and I love it. For those who've done this modification, what are the advantages? What does this modification provide that a standard Carvex doesn't? What exactly is the itch that this modification scratches?

I'll make some cuts with mine tomorrow and report back to you.

I primarily use my jigsaw for rough cuts to remove material before flushing it up with the router. When I can't use the band saw, I have to use the jigsaw. Historically, I've always had bad jigsaw technique. I can remember trying to cut out skateboard blanks back in the 80s with an old Black & Decker and I got terrible cuts then. I get slightly less terrible cuts now. I don't respect the jigsaw and it doesn't respect me ;)

I assumed the play in my Carvex was normal and I ignored it. As I watched the source video and read other comments about Mafell's jigsaw, I thought maybe something is up. So I figured I'd make the mod and see what happens.

I have low expectations. If I get cleaner cuts without the slop in the blade column, great! If not, then that's fine too. My unscientific thought is that my Carvex sounds like it's running smoother with the screw in place. However, I don't expect to notice much of a difference. I am hoping to be surprised.

Anyway, I've seen other people get really clean cuts with a jigsaw so I know it's possible. Maybe I need to practice holding it upside down?

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2022, 11:39 AM »
So, I own a Trion and I like it...I own a Carvex and I hate it...I also own a P1 cc and I love it. For those who've done this modification, what are the advantages? What does this modification provide that a standard Carvex doesn't? What exactly is the itch that this modification scratches?


I never could quite describe why the Carvex "feels weird".  But replacing this pin makes it feel totally different.  Definitely reduces the "I hate this thing" feelings.  I notice that starting a cut takes less conscious effort, which makes sense if the piston has been drifting the whole time I've owned it. 

I'll put a few more miles on it and report back.  But so far, it's a big improvement.  I have a Trion too, so I'll hook em both up and do a side by side.

Offline bwehman

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2022, 12:57 PM »
If there is any load at all being placed on that grub screw while the carvex is working, wouldn't the threads give up pretty quickly and create another version of the original problem?

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2022, 01:39 PM »
Is it just me being cynical - or is it too much to expect that a £400 jigsaw shouldn't need fixing by its owners?

And if you want clean cuts, how about using a downcut blade, a splinterguard, and backing the pendulum action way back? It all seems so simple to me ….
« Last Edit: May 15, 2022, 06:14 PM by woodbutcherbower »

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2022, 02:03 PM »
If there is any load at all being placed on that grub screw while the carvex is working, wouldn't the threads give up pretty quickly and create another version of the original problem?

Quicker than the factory press-fit did?  Not likely.

Is it just me being cynical - or is it too much to expect that a £400 jigsaw shouldn't need fixing by its owners?

Bought mine used.  If the choice is to either spend ten bucks or pout, I guess I'm spending ten bucks.

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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2022, 05:23 PM »
I spent a bit of time this morning making test cuts in scrap wood. As I mentioned before, my experience with jigsaws doesn't run very deep so take this with a grain of salt, but the Carvex seems to have a more stable feel to it. I backed the screw out to mimic the OEM pin location and it felt like there was a bit more vibration. The cut quality was more or less the same as was the maneuverability cutting curves.

Maybe a placebo effect? I don't really know. If you're a heavy jigsaw user, you'll probably notice the difference much more than I did.

However, the thing that really made a difference in the cut quality was also installing a splinterguard. I believe that's the key to getting really clean cuts with the Carvex and I'll have to spend more time using the Carvex now that I know what it's capable of.

If the choice is to either spend ten bucks or pout, I guess I'm spending ten bucks.

My thoughts, too. I don't feel like I've done any harm to the tool. I have the ability to snug up the column or go back to the looser, OEM setting, with a couple turns of the hex key.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2022, 12:24 AM »


We're cleaning out my grandmother-in-law's house; I haven't seen that many stamps with actual cent values since I cleaned out the junk boxes I still had from my college dorm...  I wonder if I could put 58 of the "makeup" stamps on a single envelope and get away with it...  I think I have the 2-cent makeup stamps, too.  Those'll come in handy this July...
I do this all the time.  I will buy discontinued stamps on E-bay at $.70-$.75 on the dollar, save the interesting ones for a grandchild, and will send out envelopes with 4 or 5 stamps on the envelope at a time.  Working through some $.13 cent Christmas stamps right now.  A bunch of the stamps were from the 1950's, some even 1940's. It takes some research sometimes to figure out how to use the "F" or "G" stamps or the "add on to first class" memo stamp.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2022, 05:37 PM »
So, I own a Trion and I like it...I own a Carvex and I hate it...I also own a P1 cc and I love it. For those who've done this modification, what are the advantages? What does this modification provide that a standard Carvex doesn't? What exactly is the itch that this modification scratches?

Don’t expect an answer to your question @Cheese - just as I never expected a response to mine.  It’s been my overwhelming experience on here that anything direct, anti-grey-and-green, real-world or logical will be ignored by the hobby-shop faithful who don’t have client projects to bring in on time and on budget, but who do have time to dismantle and modify tools which don’t do what they’re supposed to. I also have a P1CC which I use to earn a living, and it’s blade doesn’t wander, it cuts at 90 degrees to the surface all of the time, and it doesn’t need stamps or Chinese Amazon grubscrews so the owners can get it to work properly.

Interestingly enough - my P1CC actually broke down recently. It was eventually repaired FOC out of warranty by the UK importer, but before they played ball, I posted on here seeking advice on possibly replacing it with a Carvex. The answer from the sadly restricted number of unblinkered contributors on here was an almost unanimous ‘don’t’.

I’d rather have a mind opened by wonder, than closed by faith. If you dare to challenge the order, you’re labelled as a ‘pouter’.
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2022, 05:51 PM »
So, I own a Trion and I like it...I own a Carvex and I hate it...I also own a P1 cc and I love it. For those who've done this modification, what are the advantages? What does this modification provide that a standard Carvex doesn't? What exactly is the itch that this modification scratches?

Don’t expect an answer to your question @Cheese - just as I never expected a response to mine.  It’s been my overwhelming experience on here that anything direct, anti-grey-and-green, real-world or logical will be ignored by the hobby-shop faithful. I also have a P1CC and it’s blade doesn’t wander, it cuts at 90 degrees to the surface all of the time, and it doesn’t need stamps or Chinese Amazon grubscrews so the owners can get it to work properly.

Interestingly enough - my P1CC actually broke down recently. It was repaired FOC out of warranty by the UK importer, but before they played ball, I posted on here seeking advice on possibly replacing it with a Carvex. The answer from the honest was an almost unanimous ‘don’t’.

I’d rather have a mind opened by wonder, than closed by faith. If you dare to challenge the order, you’re labelled as a ‘pouter’.

Huh?

I responded with an initial post and a follow-up. I'm just a hobbyist. Is a hobbyist's opinion not good enough for you? How much of a response do you need to feel acknowledged?
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2022, 05:53 PM »
Soon your P1CC and your Hilti, woodbutcherbower, will join the bench, as there will be a:
Cordless P1CC - Mafell joined the CAS battery platform - how long do you think they’ll let Carvex dominate the large scale builders out there?  [big grin] Cause they are: Makita and Bosch cordless jigsaws and the Carvex for the more discerning, really dominate the cordless when it comes to pro-use/building sites.

Serious joke aside, I love/hate the Carvex, but it cuts straighter than anything but P1CC and Trion.
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2022, 07:20 PM »
We have realistically zero presence with Mafell here in the US. So, it not surprising that there a few fans here.  As I have always said, I consider a jig saw to be one step up from a recip saw and don't expect much more from it than that. I rough cut parts to be flush trimmed with a router or small notches and things, that's about it. I bought the Carvex when I needed a replacement after the fire. Previously I had a Bosch (corded) with the ratchet-type screw-lever thing for tightening the blade. I never really liked that mechanism, but it was ok as a saw. I let someone use it one time and they somehow overly unscrewed that thing and it wouldn't tighten after that. I had to send it for repair. The other jig saw I had was the first generation of the Makita 18v cordless. That was the most disappointing tool purchase I ever made. I was very expensive, very heavy, and cumbersome. All it had going for it was "handy". I could pull it out, make a cut and put it back in seconds, no cord to wind up. The new ones may be better, but they will never get a chance. The plug-it system is just as easy to deal with as cordless, so I'm quite happy with mine.
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Offline tsmi243

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2022, 10:39 PM »
So, I own a Trion and I like it...I own a Carvex and I hate it...I also own a P1 cc and I love it. For those who've done this modification, what are the advantages? What does this modification provide that a standard Carvex doesn't? What exactly is the itch that this modification scratches?

Don’t expect an answer to your question @Cheese - just as I never expected a response to mine.  It’s been my overwhelming experience on here that anything direct, anti-grey-and-green, real-world or logical will be ignored by the hobby-shop faithful who don’t have client projects to bring in on time and on budget, but who do have time to dismantle and modify tools which don’t do what they’re supposed to. I also have a P1CC which I use to earn a living, and it’s blade doesn’t wander, it cuts at 90 degrees to the surface all of the time, and it doesn’t need stamps or Chinese Amazon grubscrews so the owners can get it to work properly.

Interestingly enough - my P1CC actually broke down recently. It was eventually repaired FOC out of warranty by the UK importer, but before they played ball, I posted on here seeking advice on possibly replacing it with a Carvex. The answer from the sadly restricted number of unblinkered contributors on here was an almost unanimous ‘don’t’.

I’d rather have a mind opened by wonder, than closed by faith. If you dare to challenge the order, you’re labelled as a ‘pouter’.

You're not "challenging the order".  You're pouting.  Comment stands.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2022, 03:20 AM »
Serious joke aside, I love/hate the Carvex, but it cuts straighter than anything but P1CC and Trion.

You haven't tried many jigsws then, have you? The Carvex is worse then €25 big box store jigsaws.

Just because of the problem we talk about here in this thread. The shaft is allowed to go wherever it wants. It lacks a roller in the back as support, and the adjustable jaws on the side of the blade just lead to a sparkfest.

My 25 year old Metabo is 25 times better. Not one hitch in 25 years and still working as on the day I bought it. My used Carvex is 4 years old, strobe light is permanently on on one side, and the blade change mechanism jams all the time. Sometimes, when fiddling with the mechanism, the spring releases, almost taking out your eye when the blade ejects with force. Honestly??

I only keep my Carvex because it came for free and I can use a cordless jigsaws for some things. It works fine with laminate flooring, you don't need much precision there.

I got the saw basically for free because it was part of a lot of Festools I bought. Resold some of them I don't needed, kept a few, and figured I'd try out the Carvex and sell it off if I didn't like it.

To be honest, I dare not sell it with a straight face.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2022, 08:37 AM »
I never realized it was that bad. Happy I got the Trion.  [tongue]

Offline Cut Nail

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2022, 03:06 PM »
I have two Carvex's a PS 420 EBQ this is an older unit "not under warranty" and a newer PSQ 420 EB. The older saw the blade shakes and will not start a straight cut unless I push the saw into the material prior to starting it then it will cut straight but not a safe way for me to do it. The newer saw has no looseness in the blade it is held in place against the carbide at all times I do not even have to pull the blade back to adjust the carbide, this is the way my old Bosch Swiss made saw is, so I installed a 4mm x 10mm grub screw in my older saw and adjusted it so that it is under tension when I install a new blade and loose enough to eject, it is held against the carbide with a light tension from the grub screw but still has room that I can take the blade and pull it away from the carbide with my finger under grub screw tension. it now works like my new saw and my older Swiss made Bosch. But because of the thicker Festool blade it will cut a better 90deg than my old Bosch does. I truly believe the thicker Festool Carvex blades are a game changer for me.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2022, 03:28 PM »
 [thumbs up] @Cut Nail    This must be one of the all time best First Posts!

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2022, 04:52 PM »
Serious joke aside, I love/hate the Carvex, but it cuts straighter than anything but P1CC and Trion.

You haven't tried many jigsws then, have you? The Carvex is worse then €25 big box store jigsaws.

A few.. Bosch blue and green, Makita, DeWalt and Festool’s + listening to the people that bash these tools daily where Bosch triumph for price/performance

Just because of the problem we talk about here in this thread. The shaft is allowed to go wherever it wants. It lacks a roller in the back as support, and the adjustable jaws on the side of the blade just lead to a sparkfest.

If it sparks it’s wrongly or not adjusted properly (Yes it’s a PITA to do this, but it works - better keep to the same blade thickness..) Do you use Festool blades? Mafell too will perform much worse with thin blades, if they even fit? - all jigsaws will do…

My 25 year old Metabo is 25 times better. Not one hitch in 25 years and still working as on the day I bought it. My used Carvex is 4 years old, strobe light is permanently on on one side, and the blade change mechanism jams all the time. Sometimes, when fiddling with the mechanism, the spring releases, almost taking out your eye when the blade ejects with force. Honestly??

Yes, it’s a high maintenance tool to get the most of it - They made the tools better in the past, at least some - if I spot an old Metabo for sale I’ll see if I can jump on it!  [big grin]

I only keep my Carvex because it came for free and I can use a cordless jigsaws for some things. It works fine with laminate flooring, you don't need much precision there.

Yes you do, that material chips like nothing else, unless the skirting is very thick.. but any jigsaw can cut relatively straight in so thin material

I got the saw basically for free because it was part of a lot of Festools I bought. Resold some of them I don't needed, kept a few, and figured I'd try out the Carvex and sell it off if I didn't like it.

To be honest, I dare not sell it with a straight face.

Off course you can, but are your saw well? Judging by your experience it’s seems well worn?

Good to have you swinging again Alex  [big grin]
Well, we might not be agreeable in all aspect’s, but see above.

Used with the thicker Festool blades, carbides adjusted properly, I get much better cuts than any other jigsaw I’ve used before.
Handling: None of the Carvex’s are pleasing to me, but I like mine D handle better than the barrel grip which is too long and back heavy.
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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2022, 05:04 PM »
@Alex
- Why don’t your Carvex have a rolling back guide?
Mine has..
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Offline Coen

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2022, 11:26 AM »
@Alex
- Why don’t your Carvex have a rolling back guide?
Mine has..

They do, but by default the blade starts out not touching the roller. That is part of the problem.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2022, 11:54 AM »
My "wandering blade" Carvex cuts better than any of the numerous Bosch saws I owned over the years (and light years better than Porter Cable, Makita, etc.).

I STILL hate it - because it only cuts that way if I spend WAY too much time fiddling with it before important cuts. Otherwise it either wanders all over the place or burns up the blades.

Been wanting a Mafell, but didn't want to give up the "soft start" or strobe light that the Carvex has, so I have been holding out for the "next gen" Mafell to tip me over the edge. The Mafell double thick blades are intriguing too.

Just got a lifetime supply of grub screws, and haven't taken the time to install and try yet - maybe THIS will be the difference maker.

Time will tell...............

Alex - not everyone on here is a foaming at the mouth fan-boy, and neither should you be. Most here are pretty honest and introspective. Just a thought.

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Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2022, 02:03 PM »
@FestitaMakool just to correct you - the Mafell takes standard Bosch-type bayonet blades and there's zero difference in cut quality or accuracy between any of them, irrespective of their thickness. I regularly use 6 or 7 different types ranging from the T101AO fine-cut, super-thin scrolling blade, all the way through to their 150mm/6" long beasts which allow me to make virtually flawless crosscuts in 5" thick stock for fancy gable posts, support corbels and similar. Most commonly used blade on laminate and similar delicate materials is the fine-toothed downcut which gives a finish approaching the quality of cuts made by a TS55. Just remember to turn the pendulum setting to zero. You can change from super-thin to super-thick blades in the blink of an eye with no adjustment or goofing around because the machine has no roller - just a supremely well-designed blade clamping mechanism. The engineering of that mechanism is literally the entire key to how good the machine is.

@SouthRider A double-width Mafell Cunex W1 blade was originally supplied with the saw when I bought it a coupla years back, but I hated it. It's too savage for most everything I do, and even with the splinterguard in place, it still rips material to pieces. I imagine it would be fabulous in a carpentry/framing application where quality of finish is a secondary consideration, but it wasn't for me. I'm guessing that most other contributors to the forum would find the same, given the nature of what most guys on here seem to do.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2022, 02:22 PM by woodbutcherbower »

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2022, 05:20 PM »
@FestitaMakool just to correct you - the Mafell takes standard Bosch-type bayonet blades and there's zero difference in cut quality or accuracy between any of them, irrespective of their thickness. I regularly use 6 or 7 different types ranging from the T101AO fine-cut, super-thin scrolling blade, all the way through to their 150mm/6" long beasts which allow me to make virtually flawless crosscuts in 5" thick stock for fancy gable posts, support corbels and similar. Most commonly used blade on laminate and similar delicate materials is the fine-toothed downcut which gives a finish approaching the quality of cuts made by a TS55. Just remember to turn the pendulum setting to zero. You can change from super-thin to super-thick blades in the blink of an eye with no adjustment or goofing around because the machine has no roller - just a supremely well-designed blade clamping mechanism. The engineering of that mechanism is literally the entire key to how good the machine is.


@SouthRider A double-width Mafell Cunex W1 blade was originally supplied with the saw when I bought it a coupla years back, but I hated it. It's too savage for most everything I do, and even with the splinterguard in place, it still rips material to pieces. I imagine it would be fabulous in a carpentry/framing application where quality of finish is a secondary consideration, but it wasn't for me. I'm guessing that most other contributors to the forum would find the same, given the nature of what most guys on here seem to do.

@woodbutcherbower - I always thought the Cunex blade was designed for cutting small circles, with the pin you can fix to the saw base. I think they're 68mm diameter holes, for some sort of plastic 'cavity socket' that fits into the hole, that is used in German construction. Also for 68mm spotlights.
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2022, 06:28 PM »
@Lincoln you're maybe right. The only time I've ever used any of the supplied pins is the 8mm one which is housed in the flip-out base of the machine's parallel guide - I occasionally use it as a trammel for cutting circles. Regarding cutouts for downlighter spotlights, I also don't know about 68mm being a standardised size in Germany, but here in the UK, there are around 8 different diameters which vary by spotlight manufacturer, and also vary because of the various UK fire regulations (same deal as code in NA) relating to the proximity of combustible material (=insulation and wood) to a heat source (=the bulb if it's not LED). Over here, our electricians all carry a case of holesaws to suit all of the diameters. Each hole takes 10 seconds to drill through ceiling drywall. I can't ever imagine anyone taking the time and trouble to use a jigsaw for such a simple, quick job.

The W1 double blade is tapered and multipurpose - so it's two blades thick at the front, then tapers in a V-shape to almost nothing at the back. It's designed that way so it can cut super-tight curves - but as I said in my previous post, it's way too rough a cut for the work I do. I'm guessing that over here, 99% of W1's will be used for cutting wood, but our German friends may do things differently.

Just as an aside - I bought my P1CC at a tool show, after watching the rep cut a perfect circle with perfect 90-degree sides around a UK £2 coin (1" diameter - about the size of a quarter-dollar) through 50mm/2" thick oak. He used the W1 for that demo. But as referenced above - all the blades I buy are made by Bosch. The quality's great, the range is huge, and they're half the price of OEM Mafell blades = which are probably made by Bosch anyway.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2022, 07:03 PM by woodbutcherbower »

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2022, 01:40 PM »
Thanks @woodbutcherbower
Always appreciated with real world experiences.
I really wouldn’t have thought that the P1CC would perform the same with thin(ner) blades.
As my experience with thinner, may well be cheap (Piranha) blades of all sorts including down cut blades, progressive and so forth - these have been terrible at cutting 90° - often not even close..[scared]
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Offline Roachmill

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2022, 03:05 PM »
AFAIK, only the W1 is unique to Mafell and the rest are just rebadged Bosch e.g. the W2 = t144dp, W3 = t344d  and W6 = t101br. That's at least according to my notes which, I think, came from a Mafell Owners Group thread.

Offline Ebuwan

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2022, 03:54 PM »
I spent a bit of time this morning making test cuts in scrap wood. As I mentioned before, my experience with jigsaws doesn't run very deep so take this with a grain of salt, but the Carvex seems to have a more stable feel to it. I backed the screw out to mimic the OEM pin location and it felt like there was a bit more vibration. The cut quality was more or less the same as was the maneuverability cutting curves.

Maybe a placebo effect? I don't really know. If you're a heavy jigsaw user, you'll probably notice the difference much more than I did.

However, the thing that really made a difference in the cut quality was also installing a splinterguard. I believe that's the key to getting really clean cuts with the Carvex and I'll have to spend more time using the Carvex now that I know what it's capable of.

If the choice is to either spend ten bucks or pout, I guess I'm spending ten bucks.

My thoughts, too. I don't feel like I've done any harm to the tool. I have the ability to snug up the column or go back to the looser, OEM setting, with a couple turns of the hex key.

I have 6 5 3 2 stamps left so if anyone wants a screw, PM your address and I'll drop it in the mail.
[cool]

I'm same boat as @4nthony, I rarely find a need to do something fine enough were i even noticed this problem. Watching the Sedge Festool Live on the Carvex I found made me hate it WAY less, and the splinter guard made a world of difference of course too.

So that being said, i just ordered the screws and will be ripping it apart since the my eye balls can't unsee that video, i will be bothered about it now, haha. 

Offline Ebuwan

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2022, 04:14 PM »
So, I own a Trion and I like it...I own a Carvex and I hate it...I also own a P1 cc and I love it. For those who've done this modification, what are the advantages? What does this modification provide that a standard Carvex doesn't? What exactly is the itch that this modification scratches?

Don’t expect an answer to your question @Cheese - just as I never expected a response to mine.  It’s been my overwhelming experience on here that anything direct, anti-grey-and-green, real-world or logical will be ignored by the hobby-shop faithful who don’t have client projects to bring in on time and on budget, but who do have time to dismantle and modify tools which don’t do what they’re supposed to. I also have a P1CC which I use to earn a living, and it’s blade doesn’t wander, it cuts at 90 degrees to the surface all of the time, and it doesn’t need stamps or Chinese Amazon grubscrews so the owners can get it to work properly.

Interestingly enough - my P1CC actually broke down recently. It was eventually repaired FOC out of warranty by the UK importer, but before they played ball, I posted on here seeking advice on possibly replacing it with a Carvex. The answer from the sadly restricted number of unblinkered contributors on here was an almost unanimous ‘don’t’.

I’d rather have a mind opened by wonder, than closed by faith. If you dare to challenge the order, you’re labelled as a ‘pouter’.

The mod takes as much time as it took to write all your posts about it. Doing the mod on mine today.

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Offline tsmi243

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2022, 11:21 PM »
 [popcorn]

Offline Ebuwan

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2022, 11:31 PM »
Did the mod, definitely less wiggly and controlled.

Had to just back the screw off a little; it had to be as far out as the plastic mold would allow, or I couldn't lock blades into it.

Offline Cut Nail

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2022, 12:46 PM »
I am very satisfied with the fix, I am now able to use the Collins Tool Company Coping Foot on my Carvex. Prior to the fix I preferred to use a coping foot my Bosch to do any coping on crown or base.

Offline Coen

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2022, 10:54 PM »

I bought the Carvex, over the Trion, simply because of weight. Have you ever held the two side-by-side? The difference is incredible.

Yes and then I bought the Trion. Overhead use has been very rare for me anyway and in normal use the weight is a bonus to me.

But it was either PS300 or PS400 at much higher price while I already owned the guide rail adapter for the PS 300.
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2022, 07:01 PM »
I did this to mine today during my lunch break. It is truly an easy mod. @4nthony sent me one of his extras (thanks again) and it arrived late last week.
I watched the Bradshaw Joinery video again before doing it and I will have to say that mine wasn't as loose and wiggly as the one he showed in the first place. It is tighter, but not a significantly different as his was. I haven't really tested it, other than by hand a little, but it seems good.
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Offline TomK_2

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2022, 04:23 PM »
This is a really interesting mod. What I couldn't gather from the video is how the original pin is supposed to be held into place... is it just a press fit? Does the new ball pin just create its own threads in the plastic housing?

I had been thinking about picking up a carvex someday to replace my old corded ryobi that I love to hate....

Offline Hawkeye0001

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2022, 06:57 PM »
This is a really interesting mod. What I couldn't gather from the video is how the original pin is supposed to be held into place... is it just a press fit? Does the new ball pin just create its own threads in the plastic housing?

Yes and yes. It sat quite tight inside the housing and plyers were needed to get it out, but with very little force required. If you shove it back into position a little forward-pressure against the sawblade was enough to move it out again. Wonder it Loctite would've done the job.

Offline rubber_ducky

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2022, 09:30 PM »
I have a recent model. It has hardly seen any use because the first task I tried to use it for was too deconstruct a dresser carcass with mitered corners. The carcass was made from 18mm BB ply.

It seemed to me that this is the perfect (only) job for the funky 45* base of  the carvex. Somehow though, the blade wandered In a BIG way. I put it back in the case and only used it to rough cut a couple of circles since. Not paying much attention to how much the blade wandered as it didn’t matter much

Anthony was kind enough to share a grub screw with me. I took the unit apart, and the OE pin didn’t have the space in front of it that you see in the repair video. The pin butted but against the case of the saw with no place to go. There was some wiggle in the blade but nothing out of the ordinary. Perhaps I should’ve checked prior to attempting the fix.

Mine is an EBQ. A previous poster mentioned a marked difference in his EB vs his EBQ s it relates to the wandering blade. My observation of the inside of the saw supports this.

All of this is good news save for the poor performance of that 45* shoe. Still not sure what happened there.


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Offline Econoline

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2022, 11:22 AM »
Waaaay back in 2017 I was in search of a new jigsaw for a log home renovation. I had been using a Bosch jig for many years, it finally gave up during the log kitchen scribe-a-thon. I had an acquaintance that was pedaling Festool at the time, and he hosted a Tupperware (Festool) party in my driveway. Long story short, I ended up with a D handled Carvex 420 for the rest of the log home renovation. I had become accustom to using a modified Collins coping foot on the Bosch. If you've ever finished out a log home, you know the value of a good coping foot. I remember being psyched that Collins made a coping foot designed specifically for the Carvex, and Festool made numerous gizmos for the Carvex that seemingly had jigsaw users in mind, how could things possibly get any better. I tried absolutely every foot, every cutting guide insert, every blade width adjustment to no avail. Every ninety degree cut was eighty degrees, every forty five degree cut was sixty. It was absolutely infuriating, but it had a powerful vacuum attached, and I could actually see what I was cutting without hyper-ventilating, and the strobe light is brilliant. I put the Carvex away in the shed thinking I'd send it back to Festool because something had to be wrong with the saw. Honestly, I had forgotten about the saw until a buddy forwarded this link. When you order the grub screws, order both 10mm and 12mm, one of the two will work, no matter the vintage of the saw. I have experimented with all the various attachments, and now it's the saw I had hoped it was.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2022, 11:49 AM »
Waaaay back in 2017 I was in search of a new jigsaw for a log home renovation. I had been using a Bosch jig for many years, it finally gave up during the log kitchen scribe-a-thon.

Nice job on the scribing & coping.  [smile]

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2022, 08:07 AM »
What Cheese said. Super scribing job  [smile]

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Offline Econoline

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2022, 01:39 PM »
It's kind of ironic that when I found the sweet spot for the added grub screw, the Festy jigsaw blades no longer fit in the saw. The Bosch blades drop right in...
E.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #62 on: June 29, 2022, 05:41 PM »
It's kind of ironic that when I found the sweet spot for the added grub screw, the Festy jigsaw blades no longer fit in the saw. The Bosch blades drop right in...
E.

I have struggled with the genuine Festool blades since day one. It has to be the extra thickness. One of the two that came with the saw has never been in it. It just will not fit. All of the other T-shank blades from other manufacturers seem to be fine. I was under the impression that the thck ones were supposed to match the width of a standard TS55 blade, so you could finish a cut that was started with the track, by hand.
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Offline tsmi243

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #63 on: June 29, 2022, 07:13 PM »
It's kind of ironic that when I found the sweet spot for the added grub screw, the Festy jigsaw blades no longer fit in the saw. The Bosch blades drop right in...
E.

Happened to me too.  Back it off a quarter turn, and they'll probably pop right in. 

Offline Coen

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2022, 09:51 AM »
It's kind of ironic that when I found the sweet spot for the added grub screw, the Festy jigsaw blades no longer fit in the saw. The Bosch blades drop right in...
E.

I have struggled with the genuine Festool blades since day one. It has to be the extra thickness. One of the two that came with the saw has never been in it. It just will not fit. All of the other T-shank blades from other manufacturers seem to be fine. I was under the impression that the thck ones were supposed to match the width of a standard TS55 blade, so you could finish a cut that was started with the track, by hand.

Huh, never thought about that. How would that work with the new 1.8mm blade then..?

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« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2022, 05:58 PM »
I would assume that they have newer blades to accommodate that, at the 1.8mm width?
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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2022, 09:42 PM »
I fixed my corded and cordless carvex and both saws are like new creatures for sure. 
Super quick and easy and inexpensive...should have come from the factory like this!

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #67 on: July 01, 2022, 08:09 AM »
For anybody looking for the screws, they would more commonly be called a "ball plunger" or "ball spring plunger".
Its not really a grub screw -- if you search that, you are likely to get a solid spherical point set screw.

Offline Econoline

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2022, 12:52 PM »
Somebody is calling them Grub Screws...

Offline Coen

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #69 on: July 01, 2022, 01:12 PM »
I would assume that they have newer blades to accommodate that, at the 1.8mm width?

Well, the jigsaw blades got renumbered and got a facelift a few years ago, but don't think width of cut was chaged honestly. Have not seen it mentioned anywhere either.

But looking at changing over to TS 55 F... good question. I know some blades are thinner than the TS55' 2.2mm. But would be nasty if they are wider than 1.8mm..

I do have a near-complete blade collection in my DIY Trion Systainer.. so I'm gonna check that.

Offline mino

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2022, 09:44 AM »
This looks like a design defect to me.

Looking at the design, it would seem to me the original pin is *expected* to stay put inside the plastic by friction but it does not.

I cannot imagine the original pin as *meant* to be allowed to freely move and be stopped only by the external housing - which is not guaranteed to be at the same position vis-a-vis the gearbox assembly to begin.

That effectively makes the pin completely pointless. Once out, stopped by the housing, THE ORIGINAL PIN NO LONGER DOES ITS FUNCTION -> the designer put it there for a reason. Not for fun.


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Can you please take this with HQ and see if can get some formal feedback ?

This to me looks like the *expected* scenario - pin staying put - is not seen in practice and after some use the pins, being smooth, slip out of the gearbox and as the "standard" servicing manual does not check for this problem it is not noticed when the saws are sent in.

This would also explain why hobby users tend to not complain much while the pro's like Coen scream about it.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2022, 09:48 AM by mino »
When The Machine has no brains, use yours.

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Re: Carvex pendulum fix
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2022, 01:10 AM »

This to me looks like the *expected* scenario - pin staying put - is not seen in practice and after some use the pins, being smooth, slip out of the gearbox and as the "standard" servicing manual does not check for this problem it is not noticed when the saws are sent in.

This would also explain why hobby users tend to not complain much while the pro's like Coen scream about it.

I complain about a lot, but until recently I wasn't aware of this particular Carvex problem. A few months ago I have used a Carvex in the wild and it definitely had this problem too. Very noticeable too, but for the owner this was the best jigsaw they ever had, so then the perspective is different.