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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2021, 03:46 PM »
Well, here they put a flow limit on shower heads, but not on the number of shower heads.  Start paralleling vac's for maximum suck.  Stack 3 sys vacs and put on a sys cart   [tongue]

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Offline RobS888

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2021, 05:25 PM »
"Do you have any tips on buying a Domino for one's non-woodworking spouse? "

Easy, just buy it from RECON for her. When she says she can't use that say well
I guess I will have to find a use for it in my shop because it can't be returned.

Darn the good luck  [cool]

No kidding! We needed a HEPA based vacuum for some work in our dinning room. The walls were not close to flat. I showed my wife the CT 26. She said can we get a better price if you get a Domino with it. I guess I had mentioned the combos...

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2021, 07:37 PM »
generally they are in the garage, which is often directly off the kitchen, or they are in the basement. Generally folks will have them in the utility room in the basement, so it's not making noise in the living space down there.  I don't think there is anything stopping folks from having it right in main living space. Doing that would just defeat the purpose of putting a noisy thing out of the way, and gaining an annoying big hose you drag around room to room.

I wouldn't say they are very common here either. I think for most folks, dealing with a big long hose is more of an annoyance than a cord, or carrying a normal vac up and down stairs.  I think the popularity varies over time. There were popular in the 80s for sure.

That is the biggest gripe (and maybe the only one) we have with our central vac. Our 10m hose is like wrestling an Anaconda when you take it out or when finished and want to put it away. There are systems that store the hose inside the pipe. If I had a spot where the whole house could be serviced from one location I might consider it.

https://youtu.be/dXIz8qu7gfw?t=22

Bob.. that’s a good idea, but I wouldn’t have that collapsible in the video. I just occurred to me that feeding the hose back in a hole with either a made bin or a barrel on the inside would work.
I’ve wrestled with a 9m hose, including bringing the vac out from its hideout. It’s a hassle, but cut the Anaconda down to 1 1/2m and make it swallow a huge meal which won’t come out.. it certainly made me miss the hose wrestling once I put the nozzle on the floor and started..
but a CT Bluetooth and a hose in a hole.. that could be something. I could even bear over with manually start feeding it trough two different holes, one for first floor and one for second floor.
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Offline JeremyH.

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2021, 10:11 PM »
How is a 600w vacuum better if it has to be on making a dozen passes to sorta clean?

Also who gives a rats ass if you have to replace the filter and bags sometimes, if you don’t have to listen to these expensive annoying machines?
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2021, 10:02 AM »
The only issue with using a CT for a household vac is that while we can buy an air-driven turbo brush (Turbo Suction Brush D 36 TKB II, Item number 203809), the stainless steel wand that supports using the turbo brush has apparently been discontinued in the US (maybe NA).   [sad]
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Offline BigDan

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2021, 04:01 PM »
Must have gotten NOS as mine just arrived form Hartsville Hardware 2 weeks ago... ouch!
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Online squall_line

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2021, 04:41 PM »
The only issue with using a CT for a household vac is that while we can buy an air-driven turbo brush (Turbo Suction Brush D 36 TKB II, Item number 203809), the stainless steel wand that supports using the turbo brush has apparently been discontinued in the US (maybe NA).   [sad]

It looks like the metal wand pieces are still sold as a set or as part of the Tradesman / Installer Cleaning Set with the D36 hose, but the elbow piece has been swapped to plastic, with a suction regulator gate.

There is also a new plastic D36 set of tubes to go with the new plastic elbow.

Offline Alex

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2021, 05:08 PM »
It looks like the metal wand pieces are still sold as a set or as part of the Tradesman / Installer Cleaning Set with the D36 hose, but the elbow piece has been swapped to plastic, with a suction regulator gate.

I didn't know this until I read it now. I have both the plastic and the metal wands, and lately I use the plastic elbow with both. I don't like how the metal elbow connects to both the 36 and 27 mm hoses, it is not very secure.

I see the new sets have bayonet fittings for the hoses. It was probably more difficult to make that part from metal than from plastic.

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2021, 05:25 PM »
It looks like the metal wand pieces are still sold as a set or as part of the Tradesman / Installer Cleaning Set with the D36 hose, but the elbow piece has been swapped to plastic, with a suction regulator gate.

I didn't know this until I read it now. I have both the plastic and the metal wands, and lately I use the plastic elbow with both. I don't like how the metal elbow connects to both the 36 and 27 mm hoses, it is not very secure.

I see the new sets have bayonet fittings for the hoses. It was probably more difficult to make that part from metal than from plastic.

I bought the Nilfisk version of the turbo brush (identical in every way except for the green plastic door, and 40% of the Festool price) and found that I needed to use a 1-1/4" flexible coupling (found in the plumbing department at any decent hardware store) to join the turbo brush to the stainless tubes I already had in the Tradesman Kit I bought years ago. 
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Online squall_line

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2021, 05:38 PM »
I didn't know this until I read it now. I have both the plastic and the metal wands, and lately I use the plastic elbow with both. I don't like how the metal elbow connects to both the 36 and 27 mm hoses, it is not very secure.

I just learned about it today, myself.

Like you, I can't stand how the 36mm hose connects to the metal elbow, either; I find I spend almost as much time holding that joint from falling apart as I do anything else when I use it.  I didn't notice the bayonet end on the plastic elbow, which looks much nicer in that regard.  I might add a plastic elbow to my next order to make my life easier.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2021, 05:40 PM »
What was the purpose of this power limit on vacuums?  I would guess it was probably a cord issue?

Environmental reasons. They think they save energy and reduce CO2 emissions by limiting the power of a vac to 900W max.

I severely dislike this, I like my vacs powerful. They say 900W vacs are just as good. But it is a lie.

FWIW...we have 2 Miele canister vacs. A S 514 upstairs at 1100 watts and a S 5981 down stairs at 1200 watts. I wouldn't part with either one. One of the nicest features on them are the motor driven brushes that are in the floor vacuuming head. For vacuuming rugs or carpets there's nothing better to pick up dirt.

The Festool floor vacuuming head is not motor driven.

Miele canister vacs in the US are still rated at 1200 watts.  [cool]

Offline rst

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2021, 05:48 PM »
I bought one of the new Fein IIs on sale when they included the motor driven attachment for free...fantastic tool...lives in my house.

Offline Coen

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2021, 09:08 PM »
What was the purpose of this power limit on vacuums?  I would guess it was probably a cord issue?

Environmental reasons. They think they save energy and reduce CO2 emissions by limiting the power of a vac to 900W max.

I severely dislike this, I like my vacs powerful. They say 900W vacs are just as good. But it is a lie.

FWIW...we have 2 Miele canister vacs. A S 514 upstairs at 1100 watts and a S 5981 down stairs at 1200 watts. I wouldn't part with either one. One of the nicest features on them are the motor driven brushes that are in the floor vacuuming head. For vacuuming rugs or carpets there's nothing better to pick up dirt.

The Festool floor vacuuming head is not motor driven.

Miele canister vacs in the US are still rated at 1200 watts.  [cool]

It's not all a lie. Not everyone used their 2 kW+ vac at full power anyway. And at same suction, the newer vacs are a lot less loud.

The motor is battery-powered, or is there some power connection along the hose / pipe?

Offline Cheese

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2021, 09:59 PM »
1. It's not all a lie. Not everyone used their 2 kW+ vac at full power anyway. And at same suction, the newer vacs are a lot less loud.

2. The motor is battery-powered, or is there some power connection along the hose / pipe?

1. We have 2 Golden's and 3 cats so we use the Miele's at WOT (wide open throttle) all of the time.

2. If you're referring to the floor/carpet/rug vacuum heads, on the older S 514 the cord runs along the connection tube of the vacuum head and plugs into the handle of the vac. On the newer S 5981 the cord is internal and as soon as you plug the vacuum head into the handle of the vacuum, all the connections are made and you're ready to go. 

Here's a photo of the handle. The 2 buttons on the stainless down tube is where the floor vac head plugs in. Remove the floor vac head and normal vacuuming is done with wands, an extension nozzle or brushes. Plug in the down tube and the connections are internal which brings power to the brush motor in the floor head.




I'd love Festool to come up with something like that for use in the shop where there are both smooth surfaces and thin rugs that need to be vacuumed.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2021, 10:19 PM by Cheese »

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2021, 10:09 PM »

1. We have 2 Golden's and 3 cats so we use the Miele's at WOT (wide open throttle) all of the time.


The continued presence of the cats tells us the vacuums do not have adequate suction power, or maybe you don't have large enough hose.    [wink]

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2021, 10:14 PM »

It's not all a lie. Not everyone used their 2 kW+ vac at full power anyway. And at same suction, the newer vacs are a lot less loud.

The motor is battery-powered, or is there some power connection along the hose / pipe?

So do these suc restrictions only apply to corded vacs?  With battery ones more common, can manufactures just go crazy.  Just tweak the cordless leaf blowers.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2021, 10:24 PM »
The continued presence of the cats tells us the vacuums do not have adequate suction power, or maybe you don't have large enough hose.    [wink]

The vacuums are more than adequate...the critical element is the 30 mm diameter hose on a 15# cat.  [popcorn] [popcorn]

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2021, 12:16 AM »
My wife has 2 S2 Miele canister vacs, both 1200 watts as bought most recently 2014. Good to know the new ones are wimpy; these will last the rest of our lives' and probably our kids' lives.
She also has a keen appreciation for my CT's, for HEPA filters, and unfortunately for my CXS. Her Bosch won't do any more. If I could find an older model with the L-shaped batteries, I would buy it for her.

Offline mino

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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2021, 04:26 AM »
It's not all a lie. Not everyone used their 2 kW+ vac at full power anyway. ...
Correct, but the implication is the exact opposite.

When an electric motor is not at full power it does not suck full power, eh, so the argument is moot. No one uses resistor-based power regulation in household appliances in 21st century.

But the argument was that people do use the vacs at 100% power when it is not needed. Implying they are stupid and the Eurocrats need to think for them..

A sensible regulation would be to mandate that all vacs above a certain power level must have power regulation.
But that would require the Eurocrats to have more than one brain cell and to actually care about the impact of the regulation on normal people.
But why would they? At Brussels wages they all can afford cleaning ladies, so it does not concern them. Worst case they can get industrial vacs like the Mini and replace the $30 microfilters every second month. These folks simply are not affected so they do not see the problems they cause. This was the same with forbidding light bulbs a few years back. It also did not affect the well-off as they could switch to LEDs even for use cases where it does not make economic /nor ecologic/ sense.

/end rant
« Last Edit: March 18, 2021, 08:08 AM by mino »
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Re: Strangest request from Wife....
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2021, 09:40 PM »
I have many customers who like my quiet Festool vacuums, I use mostly Minis but have a Sys and CT 26.  I use the Mini with a Power Motorized beater head made by Fein that plugs into the outlet on the Vacuum.  The head also shuts off at the head so I don't have to go back to the vac to shut it down. That vacuums the carpet better than most anything I have owned. 

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