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Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2020, 11:57 AM »
When I get the edge sander attachment, my ETS 125 will live permanently in that.

Interesting how the function of the edge sander attachment is almost identical to the Little Lipper I learned about here on FOG.

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Offline mkasdin

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2020, 04:49 AM »
Like many before me, I bought the RO 125 with the thought of it being an all-around.  It's not.   The ETS EC 125 came very soon after.   The RO is great for removing a lot of material, and buffing/polishing.  For just nice sanding it's not good.   The ETS EC 125 is a nice little sander.  Just like others mentioned,  I would say the 10:1 usage ratio is right.

Festool needs to get a edge sander fixture out for this ETC EC 125,  I was shocked to find out their new edge sandering thing doesn't work with it. It went from a "shut up and take my money" to just cursing Festool in a heartbeat.

Just plan now to have multiple sanders.
I’m probably going to Pony up and get that for my PRO 5 (ETS-125). lol

Offline Jimmy69

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2020, 10:05 AM »
So I've decided on the ETS EC 150. My first job is sanding ply kitchen cabinets. What type of abrasives and accessories would you recommend for that job? They will probably have OSMO or similar as a finish. I know absolutely nothing about finishes. Is it worth getting the oil dispenser kit?

Offline jcrowe1950

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2020, 09:31 PM »
So I've decided on the ETS EC 150. My first job is sanding ply kitchen cabinets. What type of abrasives and accessories would you recommend for that job? They will probably have OSMO or similar as a finish. I know absolutely nothing about finishes. Is it worth getting the oil dispenser kit?

    If you are sanding raw plywood, Rubin 2 will suffice, otherwise go with Granat. As far as prep for finishing, I'd go up to 180 on the raw wood and then higher between coats. If using a Festool sander, let the tool do the work and don't apply pressure...that causes more work...I personally don't totally like a glass smooth finish on wood and that is one reason I don't much care for urethane film finishes, besides the fact that they are not very durable and are not repairable....OSMO products like Polyx are hard wax oils. I think Rubio is as well. OSMO penetrates and protects while still allowing the wood to breath, so to speak. It's also pretty easy to repair. I have also used Festool's Surfix, another hard wax oil that comes in an easy to use kit. The application methods differ, as I found out through experimentation. If you do use one of the OSMO products, follow their directions and you should be successful. Same for Surfix. Best of luck in your endeavors.

P.S. - which ETS EC 150 did you choose....I love my 150/5....
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Offline mkasdin

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2020, 11:29 PM »
If your using a high quality plywood most are smooth. I would just get a plain $200 ETS-125 and try it out. 3mm stroke. If you don’t like it then return it and get something else. You have 30 days. If you stick with this long enough you will end up with 3-5 Festool sanders, so you don’t need to marry the high school sweetheart, yet. My first sander was a RO-150. It barely gets used, it’s a closet queen 👑 Incidentally, I would try out a panel and a cabinet door first if you go the route of the cheap sander. On new plywood get  some 80 grit, 100grit, 120grit, 150 grit for paint grade. Stain grade you will want 180grit.  higher or the polyurethane finish between coats. I think for the price you can get a lot done with the cheap sander.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2020, 12:16 AM »
So I've decided on the ETS EC 150. My first job is sanding ply kitchen cabinets. What type of abrasives and accessories would you recommend for that job? They will probably have OSMO or similar as a finish. I know absolutely nothing about finishes. Is it worth getting the oil dispenser kit?

I'm curious as to why you chose the ETS EC 150 which will only allow the use of a 150 mm pad as opposed to the ETS EC 125 which will allow the use of both 125 mm & 150 mm pads?

Offline Jimmy69

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2020, 04:58 AM »
So I've decided on the ETS EC 150. My first job is sanding ply kitchen cabinets. What type of abrasives and accessories would you recommend for that job? They will probably have OSMO or similar as a finish. I know absolutely nothing about finishes. Is it worth getting the oil dispenser kit?

I'm curious as to why you chose the ETS EC 150 which will only allow the use of a 150 mm pad as opposed to the ETS EC 125 which will allow the use of both 125 mm & 150 mm pads?

I thought they were both interchangeable? But you're saying the 125 can take the 150 pad but not the other way around? How does that work?

So I've decided on the ETS EC 150. My first job is sanding ply kitchen cabinets. What type of abrasives and accessories would you recommend for that job? They will probably have OSMO or similar as a finish. I know absolutely nothing about finishes. Is it worth getting the oil dispenser kit?

    If you are sanding raw plywood, Rubin 2 will suffice, otherwise go with Granat. As far as prep for finishing, I'd go up to 180 on the raw wood and then higher between coats. If using a Festool sander, let the tool do the work and don't apply pressure...that causes more work...I personally don't totally like a glass smooth finish on wood and that is one reason I don't much care for urethane film finishes, besides the fact that they are not very durable and are not repairable....OSMO products like Polyx are hard wax oils. I think Rubio is as well. OSMO penetrates and protects while still allowing the wood to breath, so to speak. It's also pretty easy to repair. I have also used Festool's Surfix, another hard wax oil that comes in an easy to use kit. The application methods differ, as I found out through experimentation. If you do use one of the OSMO products, follow their directions and you should be successful. Same for Surfix. Best of luck in your endeavors.

P.S. - which ETS EC 150 did you choose....I love my 150/5....

I was going to go for the 150/3 as it's described as Fine/intermediate rather than the 150/5 which is described as intermediate/rough. Perhaps that description is inaccurate?

Offline mrB

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2020, 06:17 AM »
The pad swap-ability of the ETS EC 125 seems to be a ‘mistake’ by Festool.
As they briefly shouted from the rooftops that “it wouldn’t, don’t try it, it’s not supposed to fit, the break won’t work. .”

But people have been doing it successfully since release. 
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2020, 08:14 AM »
I was checking the festool USA site and I see that:
 
Random Orbital Sander ETS EC 125/3 EQ-Plus
Item number 571897
This item is no longer available.

Was news to me, looks like I need to catch up whats happening last couple weeks as I was away.

Offline Jimmy69

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2020, 09:00 AM »
I was checking the festool USA site and I see that:
 
Random Orbital Sander ETS EC 125/3 EQ-Plus
Item number 571897
This item is no longer available.

Was news to me, looks like I need to catch up whats happening last couple weeks as I was away.

There are very few for sale in the UK at the moment.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Best all round sander?
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2020, 09:55 AM »

I thought they were both interchangeable? But you're saying the 125 can take the 150 pad but not the other way around? How does that work?


Here's the 125 mm pad on the left and the original Jet Stream 150 mm pad on the right. The 150 mm driveshaft has 2 additional ears which would need to be ground off if you wanted to put a 125 mm pad on it.




Here's the 125 mm drive shaft...no ears.




Here's the newer 150 mm Jet Stream 2 pad on the ETS EC 125.