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Offline Steve R

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A quick view of the Syslites not from a dealer or supported by one.... Dang I wish I was..... [scratch chin] ... maybe not... [big grin].

Being that I bought two of them myself I'm not going to drop them like I see others doing in reviews. I'm sure it will happen...but I don't have the time or money to burn if they do fail me...after I say in to a camera... "Watch this".

Picked up two Syslites last Saturday and have been using them every day. The day I got them I walked around my house with them and used them as skim/strafe light on the sheet rock around the house.  Found  [eek] several really bad patches done by prior owners, that the normal natural and fixture lighting never showed.  So darn.... I just got a lot of work to do after buying these things.  :o  

I do wish they were brighter... but that is why I bought two.  The downside is if they were brighter they would not have any practical run time on the internal battery... or would have to be so big they lose the wonderful smallness that now allows them to go where they now can.

I have not yet found a time when I would use the lower light setting. Maybe if I was camping and just wanted a light to attract bugs? [unsure] then the lower light setting would be nice. At this point the only time I like the lower light setting is if I'm looking at the LEDs.... [doh]

Not having any Festool drills yet....but I did let "my go to" drill drop on cement twice today but the dang thing still works [mad]. I really think that Festool needs to offer a 2 battery and charger option and put the whole kit with two Syslites in a systainer. Working on site I want these lights to always have a external battery attached to give me the run time normal jobs take and a case to pack them up in at the end of the day.

(has anyone else noticed that the word "Syslite" comes up spelled wrong here  [poke].)

At this point my work partner has not noticed that his T12 is missing one battery. He is prone to forgetting where he sets things down...so maybe I can score the other battery and the charger...and just tell him he must of left it at his last job site.... [oops]

One downside to adding the battery is that you have to take the hanger clip off so you can't hang a Syslite with the battery attached.

An accessory that I might like to see is a slide on wall mount clip that replaces the Hook clip. This would allow you to mount it on a stud wall or in a location that you need a long term light without the hassle of a tripod or something to hang it on. But that also points to the need to have a different AC/Main cord connection. Also being able to hang or wall mount a Syslite when it has a external battery is a need for me.

One thread talked about the Syslites getting hot. Today I was using one on the internal battery only and I did notice that it did get warm/hot over time as I moved it around. When it shut down I though it was from usage time? and might have been. When I plugged the unit into AC/Main to charge... I did get a solid red light.... that means battery is too hot to charge. Temp on work site was 76F.  It that normal for a Syslite?  I want to test it again to see if the red light overheat will repeat/happen again.

One thing with adding a T12 battery (and any external battery, I think) to the Syslite, is you loose several degrees of the angle setting as the battery does not let the three sides to rest as they would without a battery.

Overall I find the Syslite a winner, as a light that works in small spaces. The light level is fine if you are working in a small areas. One light is not enough to do critical work on 8' x 12' room wall. Or my light is not working as it should...I don't know. At night maybe it is more impact-full  [doh].

I do like that the LED light is cool and won't burn your arm like a halogen will if you if brush against it. Also you can pack up the Syslite without having to worry that it will melt anything it touches like your halogen will.

Well... just some random thoughts...

Cheers,
Steve
« Last Edit: June 07, 2012, 12:47 PM by Steve R »
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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 12:28 AM »
I could see that Syslite Systainer kit having a compact tripod in it too. I was checking them out and found some that are short enough to put in a Systainer.

Love the idea of swapable mount plates in place of the  hook!

I found the low setting desirable when it is inside a cabinet I am working in.

The bright setting does have more impact in actual darkness. I could literaly hang it up outside for a yard light. The broad even spread works great for that.  Personally I have found that any LEDs I have used have less impact in partly lit areas than than incandecent or halogens.


All in all the more I use it the more I like it.

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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 05:29 AM »
A 2x syslite systainer bundle was the first thing I wanted after a got my syslite (a while back now here in Oz).

It's such an obvious no brainer, with only a insert to create, I'm holding back on another syslite as I'd happily buy a 2x kit. The "kit" should leverage the "flexi system" thinking, coming in a sysN? with 2 syslites and moulding provision for 2x 3.0Ah batteries, charger, 2x compact tripods and 2x threaded wall stud bracket/hook/clamps kinda things.

A really cool innovation would be to create a "chargetainer" - one that lets you plug the actual 'tainer into the wall socket and it charges 2x syslites and 2x batteries all at once.

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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 09:05 AM »
A 2x syslite systainer bundle was the first thing I wanted after a got my syslite (a while back now here in Oz).

It's such an obvious no brainer, with only a insert to create, I'm holding back on another syslite as I'd happily buy a 2x kit. The "kit" should leverage the "flexi system" thinking, coming in a sysN? with 2 syslites and moulding provision for 2x 3.0Ah batteries, charger, 2x compact tripods and 2x threaded wall stud bracket/hook/clamps kinda things.

A really cool innovation would be to create a "chargetainer" - one that lets you plug the actual 'tainer into the wall socket and it charges 2x syslites and 2x batteries all at once.

Well we know that Festool reads these blogs....let's hope they hear our needs [poke] [not worthy]

Another local FOG member helped me on a project and he had taken Makita (think) chargers and put three or four in a systainer and had wired it so only one cord had to come out to the main to get all going.

Cheers,
Steve
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 10:00 AM »
I was using mine all day yesterday in a large walk in closet. There was only one single bulb ceiling fixture at the entry of the closet and darkness thereafter. The syslite was great!  I hadn't used long term prior, so I left it plugged in all day knowing that I would run the battery down. At the end of 7 hours, I shut the light off, it was still plugged in and I got the red eye as well. I'm assuming that when the light is plugged in its always trying to recharge the internal battery if the light is on. It was VERY warm to the touch. Today, I started by just running the light on its internal battery and then I'll plug in and see what happens when then!

As far as a kit, I'm contemplating a second light but I would love to see a 2x light package!  Here's to hoping!

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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 08:36 PM »
I was using mine all day yesterday in a large walk in closet. There was only one single bulb ceiling fixture at the entry of the closet and darkness thereafter. The syslite was great!  I hadn't used long term prior, so I left it plugged in all day knowing that I would run the battery down. At the end of 7 hours, I shut the light off, it was still plugged in and I got the red eye as well. I'm assuming that when the light is plugged in its always trying to recharge the internal battery if the light is on. It was VERY warm to the touch.
Bob

Bob, I'm glad you made the comment about it being VERY warm. I had the same experience you did. I asked a few days ago about this and no one here seemed to think it got hot, very warm, etc. Certainly not too hot too touch but much warmer than I expected. I think having it plugged in and charging the battery at the same time it is running might be the cause for the heat.

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 08:40 PM »
I was using mine all day yesterday in a large walk in closet. There was only one single bulb ceiling fixture at the entry of the closet and darkness thereafter. The syslite was great!  I hadn't used long term prior, so I left it plugged in all day knowing that I would run the battery down. At the end of 7 hours, I shut the light off, it was still plugged in and I got the red eye as well. I'm assuming that when the light is plugged in its always trying to recharge the internal battery if the light is on. It was VERY warm to the touch.
Bob

Bob, I'm glad you made the comment about it being VERY warm. I had the same experience you did. I asked a few days ago about this and no one here seemed to think it got hot, very warm, etc. Certainly not too hot too touch but much warmer than I expected. I think having it plugged in and charging the battery at the same time it is running might be the cause for the heat.

I agree that it seems to alway be charging when plugged in. I'm in no way complaining about or flaming the tool, I am making an observation...I'm seeing discussion in other threads about light output = heat dissipation...it's a tool, it hasn't been a problem yet and only time will tell!  I'm very pleased that it carries the 1+2 warranty!

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 11:04 PM »
Okay, being that I was using the Syslite with external battery attached and needing to keep move quickly. I didn't have the time to figure out a way to hang or lock down the Syslite.  So in the course of work it did go down 7.5' onto cement with a T12 battery attached.  All seems to have survived. Just wish there was a way to hang the light with a hook when using an external battery.

Cheers,
Steve
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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 08:21 AM »
good information steve,  and yep a hook would be nice to have with the battery in place.  I have been using the lights now for about 60 days and still find many uses for them and helpful.  and I have found that they do get a little warm, but nothing to be worried about, especially how hot a hooligan gets.

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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 05:23 PM »
How about purchasing a Gorilla Pod camera tripod and use it when an external battery is attached http://joby.com/gorillatorch/flare?

It holds my Canon 5D DSLR with a 200mm lens nicely in place so it should easily take the weight of an syslite.
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 05:49 PM »
How about purchasing a Gorilla Pod camera tripod and use it when an external battery is attached http://joby.com/gorillatorch/flare?

It holds my Canon 5D DSLR with a 200mm lens nicely in place so it should easily take the weight of an syslite.

Reiska,

I like the Gorilla pod! Would work as both a hook or a stand. Great solution. I like how they weight ratings. Thanks for the link!

Cheers,
Steve
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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2012, 12:11 AM »
Just my 2 cents : I just received my syslite today ,and compared the light output to my 20w led lamps I got from ebay ($40 ea)(corded),after all the "blinded by the light" hype, I was a little disappointed , I would say maybe a little over half the light output (the 20w led's are impressive), but it is cordless , (can't put a price on that)and probably more durable ... I cant see them being powerfull enough to work as "jobsite lamps" unless you had 4-8 of them(4 might equal a 300w halogen) , but good as far as a flashlight goes...I'm sure I will like the quick local light convenience,and it will be great for drywall and finishing spot checks.time will tell...But It is not the sun....
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 01:14 AM »
Just my 2 cents : I just received my syslite today ,and compared the light output to my 20w led lamps I got from ebay ($40 ea)(corded),after all the "blinded by the light" hype, I was a little disappointed , I would say maybe a little over half the light output (the 20w led's are impressive), but it is cordless , (can't put a price on that)and probably more durable ... I cant see them being powerfull enough to work as "jobsite lamps" unless you had 4-8 of them(4 might equal a 300w halogen) , but good as far as a flashlight goes...I'm sure I will like the quick local light convenience,and it will be great for drywall and finishing spot checks.time will tell...But It is not the sun....

I hear Tom B is selling Syslites in blister packs of 6 and 12.  [big grin]

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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2012, 06:54 PM »
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I hear Tom B is selling Syslites in blister packs of 6 and 12. 


And live in a jungle of wall-warts and spaghetti,or staff a monkey to keep charging them up. I've seen crazier... [wink]
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2012, 09:15 AM »
Now with 14 work days of using these two SysLites, I like them even more. Work mates love them! They find them bright (but we are using them close). I have yet to use the half setting. The size of the light is wonderful as they are small enough to sit on a 4x4 electrical box. Easy to grab and explore a project and check work.

Still have to get a dedicated set of batteries and charger. Really don't understand why Festool doesn't have a package kit that gives you at least a bit of savings on a kit in a systainer.

There is a bit of learning curve to new users as it is not obvious to most people that when the light shuts off when running with an external battery that the internal is still full. Just remove the external and you have another 90min run time on high... more than enough to charge the external.

Still have to order some of the Gorilla Pods for hanging the thing when I steal my workmates T12 batteries and need to hang the light. [big grin]

Cheers,
Steve
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2012, 10:15 AM »
Just like Steve said, I have found myself using mine more.  Over the weekend I was finishing off a satin black aquarium canopy.  The lighting in my "shop" is ok, but when you are dealing with black all the light is absorbed.  While spraying the final coats I used the tripod.  When drilling the holes for the euro hinges I used the Syslite out of the tripod so that I could see pencil lines.

I put the case away.  It may never get a chance to go back inside.

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2012, 12:10 PM »
Steve, your feedback has been great.  I have one coming tomorrow.

Also, for the price of two batteries and charger you might as well just get the a drill (another $95 bucks).

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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2012, 12:30 PM »
Steve, your feedback has been great.  I have one coming tomorrow.

Also, for the price of two batteries and charger you might as well just get the a drill (another $95 bucks).

I have thought of that.... but the first drill I want is the CXS but those batteries don't fit.  I think I want to wait for the impact or rumored hammer drill.

At this time the only one I might buy is the T18 plus as it can compete with my DW's

Cheers,
Steve
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2012, 10:53 AM »
Steve, your feedback has been great.  I have one coming tomorrow.

Also, for the price of two batteries and charger you might as well just get the a drill (another $95 bucks).

After more use of the lights, I have been thinking about your above quoted comment. If I could sell the bare drill it might be worth it. But I have two SysLites and find I need both to have External batteries attached all the time as my work day is a lot longer than 90 minutes. Even with external batteries I have to charge them mid day.  If your are working a long day (12 hours) you have to charge externals twice.

Your solution of buying a drill is a nice idea...but would mean the drill has no battery....

I look at USA Festool product and no other tool that Festool sells in the USA that uses a battery does not come with two batteries and a charger. They are talking about in the future selling bare tool... which I find funny as the SysLite is already a bare tool.

Cheers,
Steve
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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2012, 11:09 AM »
It might be reaching to say it is a bare tool.

It does have a battery, just not a large removeable one.
It does have a charger - in fact two, one that plugs into mains and one that plugs into an automotive charger.

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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2012, 11:28 AM »
Steve,

I know you want some kind of bundle with the SysLite, a charger and one or more batteries. There are no current plans for that. When I talked about bare tools, I was talking about the Carvex and/or TI15 impact being offered as bodies only, without a battery, just to clarify.

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2012, 11:36 AM »
It might be reaching to say it is a bare tool.

It does have a battery, just not a large removeable one.
It does have a charger - in fact two, one that plugs into mains and one that plugs into an automotive charger.

I understand you point, but as professional tool that I need to work for me all day.... it falls down.

Let me ask you would you buy a drill that would run only 18% of the day and accept the answer that you just need to buy 5.6 drills to get through an 8 hour day?

If you are working on site and the site is not yet connected to the main..... and you can't drive your vehicle in to the room your working in.... the supplied chargers do nothing for you. If you need light all day to do your work.

The flaw I see in design is that the internal battery is really only enough run time to allow you to charge the external batteries twice with a bit of slop in the average day.  

Festool is a great company, and they set the bar high. USA Festool seems to set the bar even higher...

To keep my light running all day I need to spend more then $350 to keep my already purchase of $350 for two SysLites running all day.... and then buy a systainer to keep it all in ....... and cut my one insert foam...

Look at all the posts about SysLites..... every one of them who have professional users using them wants a two light kit with two external batteries, charger and mini tripods.

Cheers,
Steve

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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2012, 11:53 AM »
Look at all the posts about SysLites..... every one of them who have professional users using them wants a two light kit with two external batteries, charger and mini tripods.

I don't know that I've seen requests for this set up, but in all fairness I haven't read every post. But, in all fairness these items can be purchased individually. The point of offering the Carvex and TI15 as bare tools is so that guys don't end up with multiple chargers and dozens of batteries.

I think what you're saying is that you want a discount to purchase extra batteries and a charger. To reiterate, there are no plans currently to offer a bundle.

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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2012, 11:59 AM »
Let me just add the lights are great and once you have them you will use them more and more.....thus...run time is an issue.

The current price of a one syslite is not $175 but more like $409+ tax if  you are a pro.

Cheers,
Steve

PS... Shane I know you are talking about other tools. My point is the syslites are 90 minute run time tool with a 3 hour charge time as is...  as a remodeled working 8+ hours a day that just doesn't add up... I'm going to end up spending over $400 dollars and spending some time making a kit that keeps my two lights going all day, and protected for travel.  I'm not complaining about the cost... I'm more complaining that Festool hasn't put this together to save me the time to do this. Comments like mine have been issued from Australia, USA, and all over Europe. This is not just my concern... We all hope Festool Germany steps up and sees the issue and answers the need and demand.

  
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2012, 12:34 PM »
Steve, I hear you but I think you're probably one of the few that would use the Syslite(s) all day without power to the jobsite on a regular basis and not already have one or more Festool drills.  Frankly, I don't think the Syslite is ideally suited for all day, everyday, general jobsite lighting.  You feel differently, and that's okay.  However, have a little understanding when Festool isn't chomping at the bit to accommodate the minority your type of use fits into. 

Now I'm not saying you're on the wrong track with the idea of a package deal and I know others have expressed some interest in a bundles or packages as well.  Remember this is a newly released product and Festool will have to see how these things do before committing to bundles/packages.

In the mean time post an ad on the classified section here on the FOG explaining your plan to sell a brand new bare drill and line up a buyer before you buy a drill.  Also, please keep your feedback coming, it's been very good so far.   

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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2012, 01:11 PM »
The Pelican RALS might possibly work if you need long running light and have no a/c power but they come at a price! I carry a generator on my van so I'm never without a/c power no matter what. 

I haven't done any run times yet to find out how long a small "Jumpstart/air compressor/battery" will run the syslite but I guess it would be several hours and there are much larger ones than the one I have.   This might be a better option than the festool batteries and maybe not.    I do wish the cord on the 12v charger was as long as the one on the a/c charger but understand why it is not, as it was made with auto recharging in mind and not as a power lead from a portable power pack.

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2012, 01:23 PM »
The Pelican RALS might possibly work if you need long running light and have no a/c power but they come at a price! I carry a generator on my van so I'm never without a/c power no matter what. 

I haven't done any run times yet to find out how long a small "Jumpstart/air compressor/battery" will run the syslite but I guess it would be several hours and there are much larger ones than the one I have.   This might be a better option than the festool batteries and maybe not.    I do wish the cord on the 12v charger was as long as the one on the a/c charger but understand why it is not, as it was made with auto recharging in mind and not as a power lead from a portable power pack.

I agree.  Imagine leaving the Syslite in your vehicle in the winter months and you get a flat tire one night.  You know the internal lithium battery is going to be too cold to work and that five foot cord isn't going to reach the back of my truck to get the spare. [sad]

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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2012, 02:00 PM »
LOL, Where I'm located,  You don't have to worry about freezing too much, but it might "red light" in the summer months!

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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2012, 04:47 AM »
This may seem a bit late for this thread but...

I went across to the workshop this morning to continue my work. The sun was shining, almost horizontally, through my french window and illuminated a large flat piece of oak that I had sanded yesterday. I was horrified by the rough appearance and then realised that the light coming from such a low angle was highlighting the flaws. In normal overhead light (and to the touch) one could not tell that there was a problem.

I then thought about the syslite (which I do not have) - what a great tool to use to check out the quality of surface finish, not just lumps of wood but , say, after using the planex.

I am sure that someone has mentioned this before - if they have forgive me.

Peter

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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2012, 06:28 AM »

I then thought about the syslite (which I do not have) - what a great tool to use to check out the quality of surface finish, not just lumps of wood but , say, after using the planex.

I am sure that someone has mentioned this before - if they have forgive me.

Peter

Actually that is what i did last week, i was sanding an oak table for a very picky customer, so i had the sander in one hand and the syslite in the other shining almost horizontally on the surface highlighting all the defaults and swirls. And i kept on sanding until the surface was perfect.
In normal overhead light the surface looked nice at first, but once you shine the syslite horizontally on it you could see that it was covered with imperfections. Now i am certain the customer won't find anything negative to say, because she looks very closely!
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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2012, 06:30 AM »
This may seem a bit late for this thread but...

I went across to the workshop this morning to continue my work. The sun was shining, almost horizontally, through my french window and illuminated a large flat piece of oak that I had sanded yesterday. I was horrified by the rough appearance and then realised that the light coming from such a low angle was highlighting the flaws. In normal overhead light (and to the touch) one could not tell that there was a problem.

I then thought about the syslite (which I do not have) - what a great tool to use to check out the quality of surface finish, not just lumps of wood but , say, after using the planex.

I am sure that someone has mentioned this before - if they have forgive me.

Peter

I'm quite sure your're correct that it's been mentioned but the Syslite does work great for checking surfaces, moving it around to different angles etc.  [thumbs up]

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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2012, 07:24 AM »
Excellent Tim. I will be doing a sanding video in the New Year and will try to borrow a syslite in order to demonstrate the priciple.

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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2013, 07:16 PM »
 Well I just got a new bathroom vanity with the extra large bowls, so I gotta lay on my back and install two three hole faucets in that little bitty totally dark space. I looked at everything that Grainger had to offer, so I decided to bite the bullet and pay the $175.00. I was bitching at myself all the way to Woodcrafter's over the price. Bought it, go home and charged for three hours. What I can say is if you can afford it, this is probably the best portable area light you can get. I set it on it's back in the corner of the cabinet, and with the light on the low setting is way bright enough for general work like plumbing. To give you an idea of how bright it is on the high setting, I shined it on my wife during the daylight and she yelled at me lol. It did give me several hours of great light on low setting, and right before it go out it dims a bit to warn you. But when it dims you only have about 30 seconds before it goes out, so you don't want to be in the crawl space as you only light cause you won't have time to get out with it. They do give you a nice carrying case, but my only complaint is once you snap the AC adapter prongs in place it really doesn't want to fit the case anymore. So I would like to see a bit bigger case for the money. Otherwise, this is my go to portable light for everything now.

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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2013, 07:21 PM »
welcome sky guy

i would love a syslite
i have a floresant light for my dewalt batteries. when that gives up i will buy one
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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2013, 07:23 PM »
Well I just got a new bathroom vanity with the extra large bowls, so I gotta lay on my back and install two three hole faucets in that little bitty totally dark space. I looked at everything that Grainger had to offer, so I decided to bite the bullet and pay the $175.00. I was  at myself all the way to Woodcrafter's over the price. Bought it, go home and charged for three hours. What I can say is if you can afford it, this is probably the best portable area light you can get. I set it on it's back in the corner of the cabinet, and with the light on the low setting is way bright enough for general work like plumbing. To give you an idea of how bright it is on the high setting, I shined it on my wife during the daylight and she yelled at me lol. It did give me several hours of great light on low setting, and right before it go out it dims a bit to warn you. But when it dims you only have about 30 seconds before it goes out, so you don't want to be in the crawl space as you only light cause you won't have time to get out with it. They do give you a nice carrying case, but my only complaint is once you snap the AC adapter prongs in place it really doesn't want to fit the case anymore. So I would like to see a bit bigger case for the money. Otherwise, this is my go to portable light for everything now.

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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2013, 07:44 PM »
You guys really need to stop making me spend money  [scared]

After i get my new drill the Syslite is next on my list  ;)
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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2013, 07:47 PM »
The world kind of does need a video that shows the syslite in a bunch of real world, on the job inspection tasks. Would be great as a finish inspection light too.

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Re: Syslites (two of them) - 5 days owned, 3 days on job sites
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2013, 09:12 PM »
if you face the light away from the divider,undo the velcro,the plug can stay attached,with the prongs at the velcro

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« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2013, 10:46 PM »
I have two Syslites. On low, the Syslite is similar in output to my 13W CFL desk lamp (OTT-Lamp brand). On high, perhaps twice as bright. That makes sense, as we're talking 18W of LEDs. Don't forget that LEDs do generate some waste heat, which absolutely must be conducted away from the LED chips, or they will cook themselves. Thus, the metal sides of the Syslites appear to be the heat sink, along with a temperature sensor.

The color accuracy is good, which helps your visual acuity. I'd say they are close to indirect noon-day sun, say from a north facing window.

I also think they are priced appropriately for a German-made 18W LED ruggedized cordless work lamp. It is not a $2 HF plug-in trouble light... though one could arguably get similar lighting output with an 18W CFL in said $2 light fixture, you will sacrifice durability, convenient size, and cordless attributes (let alone, you won't be docking your extra drill battery in said $2 fixture). The Syslite has more in common with the high-end LED video lights sold in photography shops... and even then, Festool didn't cheap out on the LEDs, where-as all the video lights I saw are still messing around with massive arrays of cheap 5mm white LEDs... you can bet out of a hundred or so LEDs in an array, there will eventually be failures.

For comparison, the $60 under cabinet LED lamps I just installed output similar light using SMT LED chips, but are already showing poor engineering choices with one LED chip fading, probably from insufficient cooling and overdriving. On the other extreme, I just dropped $360 each (!) on two articulated counterbalanced reading lamps for the living room. Similar level of light output, halogen, made in China, yet none of cordless, ruggedized, or portable attributes... but very nice for what they are. Do you know how hard it is to find decent reading lights? So much junk out there.

What is better than a Syslite? Two of them.

Perhaps I'll post some photos of using the Syslights. I think Festool's photos are already fairly representative of what to expect, though.

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« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2013, 11:09 PM »
The world kind of does need a video that shows the syslite in a bunch of real world, on the job inspection tasks. Would be great as a finish inspection light too.

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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2013, 06:02 AM »
Jeepers. You're right Shane. I guess I need to get out to youtube more often. It looks as if everything's been done under the sun. Reinhold even mowed his lawn at night with it. Hopefully Peter Parfitt can find some angle that hasn't been done yet.

Who would have thought that darn hook would have been such a feature? And the humor of guys dropping the thing just never gets old.  [big grin]