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Offline jobsworth

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2020, 11:37 AM »
@FestitaMakool

Used mines yesterday for finishing, Set a 2"x 32' x 6.5' table top on it to rub a mexican chocolate wax finish on it.

 Then rolled it over to my MFTs slid it off and put the base on and continued with waxing the base.

It was easy as its the same height of the MFT and the ability to roll it around made it easier to get it done. I would say this table for me is a game changer

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Offline krudawg

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2020, 10:53 PM »
Received mine about 2 weeks ago.  Shipping Box was undamaged.  Assembly Time - 1 beer (about 20 mins).  Very impressive craftsmanship.  It rolls soooo smoothly.  It fit in my small workspace.  I recommend it without reservation.
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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2020, 02:52 PM »
Same issue with mine as @neilc ...mine cracked the nut too.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2020, 03:34 PM »
Must be something going on in factory. Box (shipping) was not damaged. Mine also came with pin bent. Unfortunately now I will have to wait three weeks to get the part. Not happy.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2020, 03:45 PM »
@ScotF

Yours had a damaged pin to?

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2020, 03:52 PM »
@jobsworth
I actually haven’t check what you just confirm - that the STM can be at the same height as MFT/3 (and others)
- Sounds like you had a breeze working across tables  [big grin]
Mine sits on another floor - have the MFT in a makeshift workspace.

Too bad for all of you with transport damage. Most seems like an easy fix, once the parts arrive. But too annoying.
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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2020, 04:49 PM »
I think the damaged tables were dropped during shipping, causing the pull-out arms to press against the pins and bending them.  Likely not a factory issue.

Must be something going on in factory. Box (shipping) was not damaged. Mine also came with pin bent. Unfortunately now I will have to wait three weeks to get the part. Not happy.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2020, 05:59 PM »
@FestitaMakool

I measured today for the thickness of the wood to go in the brackets to mount a work table/ old piece of a MFT top. Its about 60 mm. I should be getting the brackets I ordered this week some time

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2020, 12:07 AM »
@ScotF

Yours had a damaged pin to?

Yep...bummer. Everything else went together just fine.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2020, 10:46 AM »
Mine also had a damaged pin, not sure if it was from shipping or from the first time it fell over.  They are apparently on backorder for quite awhile.  Seems like they should have protected them better in shipping, or perhaps there was a manufacturing defect on these pins.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2020, 11:54 AM »
@ScotF

UPS is notorious for beating packages up in shipment. Plus they lose a lot of stuff to. I tink I told you how they claimed they lost my conturo wanted me to put in a claim, then I checked the tracking and it was last scanned at a UPS facility a hour from my house, I drove there and talked to a agent at the pick up desk she checked and it was sitting on a trailer ready to be sent back to the dealer and marked undeliverable.

I have very little faith in UPS after that

Offline Nlwatson

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2020, 01:06 PM »
Received mine from Tool Nut.  Box was in perfect shape, no damage to any parts but the pull knob on one of the pins was missing.  Checked the box for any fragments or damaged pull knob and could not find any.  Called Festool and they told me to email them a picture and will hopefully make it right.

Not disparaging FT, just letting others know of the issue so when they receive thiers they do a careful review of the pins as it seems these are the weak point in both manufactruing and shipping.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2020, 02:03 PM »
It is what it is. Contacted Festool to order the parts. The table is really nice and assembly did not take long.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #73 on: October 19, 2020, 06:41 PM »
The brackets/clips/terminals I ordered came in today.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2020, 06:49 PM »
Good to hear.  Now go have fun!

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #75 on: October 19, 2020, 10:41 PM »
@Peter Halle

Ive been using the heck outta it already, maybe tomorrow ill cut the wood pieces to fit in the brackets. They're what 60mm?

Offline James Metcalf

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #76 on: October 20, 2020, 10:35 PM »
Mine came today. One bent pin out of four. Thanks to all for the heads up. Knew what to look for right away.Looks like money well spent. I was not going to buy one before reading this thread. The great thing about Festool is no worry about a problem being made right. Good to have that peace of mind.

Offline Gerald_D

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #77 on: October 21, 2020, 10:55 AM »
As mentioned earlier, mine arrived with a broken pin.  I reached out to Tool Nut and Matthew ordered a replacement for me, which I received today.  @Shane Holland, appreciate the great service from your company!

I was still able to use the table- one of the wood pieces on the snap brackets was able to hold the extension arm in place.  The table performed very well and allowed me to cut up 10 sheets of 3/4” plywood all by myself!  My wife hates helping me lift plywood so she was pleased as well.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2020, 11:45 AM »
As mentioned earlier, mine arrived with a broken pin.  I reached out to Tool Nut and Matthew ordered a replacement for me, which I received today.  @Shane Holland, appreciate the great service from your company!

@Gerald_D thanks for the mention. Glad that Matt and I could help you out. Just a heads up to everyone, it seems that FUSA doesn't have spare parts in stock for the STM 1800 yet. We've heard it may be about 2-3 weeks before they will have them in stock. We're happy to help you in acquiring spare parts if you ordered from us or you can also work directly with Festool USA (1-888-337-8600) for parts and warranty issues.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #79 on: October 22, 2020, 04:39 PM »
Well I had time today, so I used 2 of the brackets/clips/terminals I bought to attach a old piece of a MFT top to my STM. was pretty staright fwd.

Think this opens up a lot of possiblilities as you can see in the photo I have a clamping plate for pocket holes on it which is wat I have used the old MFT top for.

I did cut the top about 2.5 inches shorter from what you see in the photo. But over all I lke the idea of a light weight work table.

I bought 4 of the brackets so I may mate another top for the other side. The top is ugly but hey its a old work top.


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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #80 on: October 22, 2020, 05:43 PM »
I wish they had made the center section line up with the holes in the MFT tops, its like an inch short.  Woulda been nice to be able to just use the existing screw holes in the MFT top and screw it into the STM.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2020, 12:04 AM »
@jobsworth  How sturdy is it compared to the regular mft with the top on it?

Well I had time today, so I used 2 of the brackets/clips/terminals I bought to attach a old piece of a MFT top to my STM. was pretty staright fwd.

Think this opens up a lot of possiblilities as you can see in the photo I have a clamping plate for pocket holes on it which is wat I have used the old MFT top for.

I did cut the top about 2.5 inches shorter from what you see in the photo. But over all I lke the idea of a light weight work table.

I bought 4 of the brackets so I may mate another top for the other side. The top is ugly but hey its a old work top.
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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #82 on: October 23, 2020, 12:51 AM »
@StanB

Well Its not a MFT its only supported on 2 thin metal tubes cantilevered out.

 As something you can clamp to, pocket hole on, saw, sand on, yes. 

it will work just fine.

But to pound on it no I wouldn't.

 But there are a lot of possibilities with this.
If you are using the STM as assembly table it would be a great place to set your screws on your drill on, domino on, set yer glue on if yer using the STM as a clamping table.

I like the idea of using it for all those and a place to clamp pieces to pocket hole.

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #83 on: October 23, 2020, 07:30 AM »
What are the dimensions of the STM 1800 when it's all folded up for storage?  Trying to figure out if I could fit one in my shop.
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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #84 on: October 23, 2020, 12:47 PM »
Folded up its 9" x 45.25" x 28", Its a bit of a pain to raise and lower it so I usually store mine raised, which makes the height 36".  (although its very easy to tip over like that)

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #85 on: October 23, 2020, 01:07 PM »
Great, thx.  That'll work.

Folded up its 9" x 45.25" x 28", Its a bit of a pain to raise and lower it so I usually store mine raised, which makes the height 36".  (although its very easy to tip over like that)
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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #86 on: October 23, 2020, 07:15 PM »
I've been using mine this week and it's a really nice accessory.  Easy to load 3/4" baltic birch ply and the adjustability for height is a nice feature. 

I was surprised how easily it rolled.  Was doing some long rip cuts on ply and had to move the table to get to the other side and forgot to relook the wheels.  It's easy to move with just the push of the saw down the track.

I ordered extra brackets and am thinking I'll adapt my Stanton Bench to fit on the stand.  For those that have not seen Dave's portable bench, it's a nice addition -

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Re: STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)
« Reply #87 on: October 23, 2020, 07:50 PM »
Cool Ill check it out

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The STM actually fits comfortably under my workbench.  Since I don't use my MFT everyday, I may at some point relocate it to my shop loft to create room for the STM to be a bit more accessible, but for now, this works.




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