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Offline Tom Bellemare

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2011, 03:32 AM »
This is how I was using the WCR earlier. It is quite nice because you can contain your mess, sort of. I can roll almost everything out of the way at the end of each evening.

I have little room for error on this one. LOML's dad is coming in about 2 weeks and that's our kitchen. I have the stove pulled and everything in shambles. Oops. I got the electrical work done tonight. It was a lot of 10-gauge copper-clad aluminum (aluminium for you Brits) in very small boxes. Ideally, I would rip all that junk out but it isn't an ideal world.


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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2011, 07:15 AM »
cant wait to get back from JLC Live in Providence, ( a convention for contractors)  to go and get my work center.... do you really think it would be helpful?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just do it.
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2011, 08:12 AM »
I don't know Kreg, that job site photo is like pooping your pants - not something you should be advertising...

You post that on JLC, and I think it'd take longer to live down than the TS55 cutting in the grass scenario.

No job is so rushed that you couldn't take a quick 5 to tidy up - clean jobsite is half the appeal to clients.

Sometimes jobsite habits speak louder than the end result to folks.

Julian

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2011, 11:12 AM »
I don't know Kreg, that job site photo is like pooping your pants - not something you should be advertising...

You post that on JLC, and I think it'd take longer to live down than the TS55 cutting in the grass scenario.

No job is so rushed that you couldn't take a quick 5 to tidy up - clean jobsite is half the appeal to clients.

Sometimes jobsite habits speak louder than the end result to folks.

Julian
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2011, 02:06 PM »
I don't know Kreg, that job site photo is like pooping your pants - not something you should be advertising...

You post that on JLC, and I think it'd take longer to live down than the TS55 cutting in the grass scenario.

No job is so rushed that you couldn't take a quick 5 to tidy up - clean jobsite is half the appeal to clients.

Sometimes jobsite habits speak louder than the end result to folks.

Julian

Julian, I generally take time to keep things fairly neat but in the heat of battle things don't always go as planned.  Kreg's picture is a good example of a real jobsite after a few hours of work.  Sure, you could take the time to put every tool away and then get it back out shortly there after.  What I'm I saying, you're no rookie, you already know all this.  I've found the WCR to really help keep thing organized by having a place to put thing until I them again.  And, I don't have to stash tools on the floor.  You know what a hassle that is. 

Kreg, your picture is the real thing so thanks for posting.   
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2011, 02:09 PM »
This is how I was using the WCR earlier. It is quite nice because you can contain your mess, sort of. I can roll almost everything out of the way at the end of each evening....


Tom


Tom, I'm with you on this, roll in, do your work with everything right at hand and roll out. [thumbs up]
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2011, 04:19 PM »
Yep that is how it is brice, thanks. That is why the work center is nice keeps tools out and ready to use during the day
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2011, 09:50 AM »
Sure looks handy!  How much trouble is it to put on and take off as  in putting it on in the morning and taking it off in the evening to load in the van?  I have often thought of building something of a work/tool table to fit on a systainer that sits on a CT, but this looks superior in every way as long as set up and break down is not a big deal.

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2011, 10:04 AM »
Sure looks handy!  How much trouble is it to put on and take off as  in putting it on in the morning and taking it off in the evening to load in the van?  I have often thought of building something of a work/tool table to fit on a systainer that sits on a CT, but this looks superior in every way as long as set up and break down is not a big deal.


The pro's will have much better answers, but how much trouble it is to put on and take off depends pretty much on how much stuff you load onto it.  It snaps onto the vac like a systainer, so its not hard to put on and off.  Of course if you have a saw, a couple of sanders, and a drill on it - its gonna be heavy.  What I have done is to keep a large systainer on the WCR that I can use to put hanging tools when I need to take the WCR off.  I just toss the tools into the 'tainer, take the 'tainer off and lift of the WCR.

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2011, 10:41 AM »
I had the Rotex 150, Rotex 90, their cord, T 15, my hammer, a couple of crescent wrenches, some screw drivers, some outlets, etc. on mine when I accidentally sucked up a small screwdriver. When I heard it hit the back of the chamber where the bag is, I thought surely I had popped the bag so I immediately shut down the CT 22 to check it out.

It's pretty easy to dismount the whole thing. I just popped the tabs outward, grabbed the top bar, tilted it away from me, and it pops off. You have to be conscious of the fact that it's going to be much heavier on the end with the tools but it's not that big a deal.

Luckily, I hadn't pierced the bag. It was about half full with, primarily limestone and gypsum dust, so I surgically removed my screwdriver and threw the bag away.


Tom

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2011, 10:42 AM »
Hi,

I checked this out the other day. It is much more beefy and sturdily constructed than pics reveal. The hooks and such are all quite heavy gauge.

I don't think it works for my shop or site set up, but it does look like a useful and effective item.

Seth

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2011, 02:11 PM »
Has anyone figured out what the down-turned bar is for between the sander "V" holders?

The only thing I've used it for is a towing handle when I want to move everything around.


Tom

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2011, 06:33 PM »
Well just left woodcraft with the workstation!  Had to buy floor model which is great as it is all put together!!

Will post pics tomorrow with it all set up at my job I am doing

One main reason I bought it was because of brices video!

Plus can't let him get ahead of me on festools!  Lol
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2011, 06:50 PM »
Thanks for the info guys and it looks like I will be getting one for the next commercial job I do.  It will make moving the vac, laminate trimmers, 1010 router, belt sander, and a several other  tools from room to room a lot easier than what I've been doing which is piling it in a sys5 with the lid open.

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2011, 05:35 PM »
Well the stand worked out very well today and to keep remembering to hang stuff up instead of laying it very gently  on the ground!
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2011, 10:03 AM »
Well just left woodcraft with the workstation!  Had to buy floor model which is great as it is all put together!!

Will post pics tomorrow with it all set up at my job I am doing

One main reason I bought it was because of brices video!

Plus can't let him get ahead of me on festools!  Lol

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Offline Aaron Underdahl

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2011, 10:16 PM »
 I have played with the WCR at my dealer a couple of times prior to this class and have been on the fence whether or not I needed this in my personal line up.   After using the WCR for the last couple days at the doors and drawer class in Indy, it was an easy decision.  My plane from the class landed last night @ 9pm.  I was at my local dealer @ 9:30 this morning to pick up my WCR 1000.
Here are some pictures of how I have modified and setup the WCR for my needs.  I have decided to rename this to the MFTSV [cool](Multifunction Table Support Vehicle)  My plans are to use this set up to strictly aid the workflow around the MFT tables. 
I most likely will purchase two more WCR1000.  One for the van and one for another CT vac without a boom arm for the shop. 

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2011, 10:32 PM »
Aaron, you're shop is very neat!  I like & strive for that but I have my challenges as mine is a garage that sees family storage uses (no cars)!

On a side note, I like what you did with the Kreg clamp table/router integration. How do you use a router fence with that setup?

You must live close to a Woodcraft as I see a lot of the same drivers, woodpeckers & pinnacle stuff that I have pillaged from my local store as well!

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2011, 10:45 PM »
Aaron, you're shop is very neat!  I like & strive for that but I have my challenges as mine is a garage that sees family storage uses (no cars)!

On a side note, I like what you did with the Kreg clamp table/router integration. How do you use a router fence with that setup?

You must live close to a Woodcraft as I see a lot of the same drivers, woodpeckers & pinnacle stuff that I have pillaged from my local store as well!

Bob

Bob, Its been a long road to get the shop to this state,  Big plans for the future. 

I have a homemade fence that I clamp down with the Kreg clams.  It works ok.  After using the CMS last week, I will eagerly waiting for this to hit my shop..

I do have woodcraft about 15 min from my house and have a couple other dealers within the same distance that all sell the same stuff. 

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2011, 10:49 PM »
I think we would all enjoy a CMS!  I'm not holding my breath...I should be receiving my Incra LS positioner this week. It seems the CMS is quite portable...that would be a nice feature as I use the Kreg portable jobsite table for the road, but it sits only 18" or so from the ground. I don't use it in the field that often, so I deal with it.

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2011, 08:27 PM »
Well the stand worked out very well today and to keep remembering to hang stuff up instead of laying it very gently  on the ground!

Kreg,

I'm interested in how it is working out for you.  Has your productivity increased?  That's kind of the bottom line for me.

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2011, 09:47 PM »
Ben ineresting question   If tools are hanging up and easily reachable then overall it might save 10-15 minutes a day of a full day building cabs or even rolling the cart from room to room(have not done that yet) but that would save time

So I guess yes it does when you are utilizing the stand to it's potential.

If you were using only one tool  or maybe 2 then maybe not

But if you got you're routers out and sanders drill and even domino then deffentnelee (spelling?)
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2011, 11:24 PM »
Aaron

Looks like the Festool classes are costing you more each time you go. I noticed two MFT in the background, did you buy the second one after the November Cabinet class?
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2011, 07:49 PM »
Thanks Brice and everyone else. I picked up my Workcenter today, loaded it all up and I love it. I have a small basement shop and a few issues have bogged me down quite a bit. First, all my frequently used tools are either far away on the wall or (more commonly) strewn about my benches making my benches that much harder to use for what they were made for. Second, having my most often used tools nearby. Third, getting to my ETS 150/3, RO 90 and Domino and using them with my CT 22 requires some futzing around and digging our systainers. Fourth, with a low ceiling I had no good boom set up for my vac hose.

I think the WC it taking care of all my problems (shop problems, not mental or social)!

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2011, 09:28 PM »

I think the WC it taking care of all my problems (shop problems, not mental or social)!

Ya you need a JERK-center for that [big grin] so do i apparently [poke] [poke] [thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

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« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2011, 10:02 PM »

I think the WC it taking care of all my problems (shop problems, not mental or social)!

Ya you need a JERK-center for that [big grin] so do i apparently [poke] [poke] [thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2012, 12:15 PM »
  Any one taking this out to a jobsite (interior finisher) care to comment (Brice) on a longer term evaluation ? Im on the fence on this , mostly about having to tie up the vac if its over at the mitersaw or something,then rolling it back and having everything fall off or something?Not sure if I would want multiple vacs just to accommodate it , and would not want to make another base (I would just make a rolling slotwall/pegboard rack , if I was going down that road ) I can really see the need to have a small close at hand tool rack, and would love to hear any + or - feedback about this thing , before I dump another $500 (Cdn after tax).Thanks in advance ...
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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2012, 12:46 PM »
Terry, I've had the Workcenter for about a year now.  I haven't gotten as much use out of it as expected for one reason, because of all the exterior (windows, dormers, decks, fence, greenhouse roof and so on) projects I did from last spring through fall.  It would be pretty hard to use the Workcenter up on a ladder installing windows. [tongue]  This winter I did get a chance to use it on a big interior job.  It was invaluable for a number of projects there.  For the custom closet shelving projects it was great at keeping things organized and off the floor just as I hoped it would be.  Still, you need to stay organized or you can overwhelm the Workcenter too. 

I don't mind taking two vacs to the job since I have a Mini and 26.  I suppose there could be some inconvenience if you only had one vac on the job.   

As far as transporting it to the job it is slightly bulky and there are few plastic parts that require a little care in loading.  Honestly, I don't know how it would fair if transported daily since I haven't done that.  I pack it carefully just to make sure it gets to the job in tip top shape, but than again, I'm a careful kinda of guy.  Maybe it can take the abuse of transporting.  You'd have to ask someone else for a better answer.

I see the workcenter like the MFT table, there is some hassle involved in getting it to the job, but once there it's well worth the trouble.         
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Offline Jason Kehl

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2012, 09:57 PM »
I have had the WCR for about a year now using it exclusively for site work and it transports just fine.  I did screw the metal tray in place so it can't bounce off and I also lightly strap it to the wall so it can't tip over on bumpy roads, but otherwise no issues in transport. I have a 16' enclosed trailer for my tools and the WCR lives in there on top of the CT26. It does not come out of the trailer for every job ( I do quite a bit of exterior work) but it has been a worthwhile investment for me.

It saves some time, although if you directly convert minutes saved to dollars earned without considering convenience it may not literally pay for itself in the short term. If you factor in that it is a pretty slick convenience, especially when working in occupied homes by helping to keep the work area neat and organized then it pays off in that sense. I often just wheel the unit (with all the tools on it) into a suitable corner at the end of the day and it is ready to start work again in the morning.

I never remove it from the CT for transport, just return the tools to their systainers, pick the CT/WCR combo up and carry it away, nothing to it.

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Re: Review of the Festool Workcenter WCR 1000
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2012, 10:48 PM »
Thanks for the response guys, Im still on the fence , this or a cxs next . Ill try to stick with my new monthly tool budget  ::), (that went to heck x2 already this month) , but it seems like the wcr would be quite usefull in certain situations.I've been on a full systainer makeover for awhile now in a do or die attempt to get more organized. We'll see...
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