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Offline JD2720

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2010, 11:00 PM »

Yes it is much better.
The floor nozzle is what sold me on the Workshop set.

Just to note that the Workshop kit does not include the crevice nozzle, upholstery nozzle or the suction brush that are included in the Tradesman kit.

Chris, I'd love to hear your opinion after using the new floor nozzle for a couple of weeks.  I'm thinking about getting one of these.

Brice, I am already sold on the new floor nozzle. Like Scot, I have carpeted mats at my shop doors & in my office. It was always a pain to clean those. The other floor nozzles I have used would grab the mats. So I would end up trying to stand on the mats to keep them from moving around. The new nozzle has wheels that allow the brushes too just touch the surface.
It picks up the dust & chips, but not grab the mats. It is also very easy to move over the floor.  
« Last Edit: August 28, 2010, 10:59 AM by Chris Rosenberger »

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Offline kcasser

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2010, 09:58 AM »
Sounds terrific!  One other question.  I see they offer a 'retrofit water extraction kit' for the floor nozzle.  Does anyone actually defile their Festool dust extractor by picking up water?  I'd think I would use my $24.99 ShopVac for that.  [scared]

Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2010, 10:55 AM »
Sounds terrific!  One other question.  I see they offer a 'retrofit water extraction kit' for the floor nozzle. Does anyone actually defile their Festool dust extractor by picking up water?  I'd think I would use my $24.99 ShopVac for that.  [scared]

Not at all.  Festool recommends that replace the main HEPA filters with their sponge filters so they are ruined. 

Offline Alex

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2010, 11:08 AM »
Does anyone actually defile their Festool dust extractor by picking up water?  I'd think I would use my $24.99 ShopVac for that.  [scared]

Yup, I do. I have these special filters for wet use Brice is talking about, and a special bucket (called the dirt trap) you can place inside the CT22. Makes it very easy and is no problem for the vac whatsoever because it is designed for this.

Offline NuggyBuggy

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2010, 04:16 PM »
First off, the D50 hose doesn't get installed onto the upper portion of the Boom Arm, so it doesn't need to fit into the hose clips.  Instead, the D50 plugs into the CT and is lead up to where the upper and lower portions of the Boom Arm connect.  You should also have a shorter/heavier power cord that gets plugged into the CT and is also lead to this connection point.  So, these shorter lengths of D50 hose and power cord that come with the Boom Arm provide the additional lengths needed, and both are installed at the CT end.

Thanks Corwin.  I found my D50 extension hose, as well as the power extension.  A picture here suggests a special tube holder for the D50, but I can't tell from the  boom arm parts list what part I need.   The only thing that looks like it might be the right part is described as  "Pipe clamp (492784)", though this part is described elsewhere as a "support tube bracket".

Also, the parts list shows a "support (492783)" and a "strut (493040)", which I can't see in any pictures of the boom arm.  Can someone tell me what these parts are supposed to do ?

thanks - terry

« Last Edit: September 03, 2010, 04:32 PM by NuggyBuggy »
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Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2010, 04:21 PM »
Terry, you link isn't working.  Is this the part you're talking about, Festool Suction Hose Holder

Offline NuggyBuggy

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2010, 04:31 PM »
Brice,

Thanks for the reply, and sorry for the broken link and the post which was quite unclear.  I wasn't referring to the nifty piece you have, but instead a clamp which appears to hold the initial extension hose up away from the CT and to the lower portion of the boom arm.

The proper link is  http://www.woodshopdemos.com/fes-66.htm . (just can't seem to place links on the forum today).

In the very first picture, the lady is attaching what looks to be the D50 hose to the boom arm, but I seem to be missing that part.  The parts list is visible on the Festool USa website if one clicks on "Support", then "Parts catalog",  "Accessories", "CT Boom Arm" (twice, I think).

I can't tell which part # I am missing.

Also the parts diagram shows two pieces which I don't think I've seen on a CT, Part # 10 "Support (492783) " and Part # 11 ("strut", 493040).  I think I may have the supports, not the struts, but can't figure out where they might go here either.  And to think I almost threw away the struts when I couldn't figure out what they belonged to !
Thanks !
terry


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Offline Corwin

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2010, 04:52 PM »
Hey Terry,

In the link you provided, the first picture shows Andrea attempting to connect the D50 hose to the hose brackets.  She wasn't successful, as you can see in the second picture that D50 hose is not held in place by any bracket.  So, you are not missing a part to connect the D50 hose to the Boom Arm, because there is no such part.

The EKAT page for the Boom Arm is somewhat problematic, as the list of items contains no item numbers to correspond with the diagram.  Most (if not all) other product parts lists in the system include the item numbers so you can identify the parts in the diagram using the list.

Also, note that the Boom Arm page in the EKAT shows the parts that come with the Boom Arm that are needed for the new CT26 and CT36 models.  Items 13,14 and 15 are for these new extractors, and are not included (or needed) with to install the Boom Arm on older CTs.  Of the two drawings of the CT extractors, the lower drawing is of the older CTs which shows the cord wraps and the lower bracket that come with the handle.  The upper drawing of the CT shows the new model and the associated parts.

The suction tube holder that Brice mentioned earlier is not required on the Boom Arm installations, but it does help somewhat to manage the D50 hose.  I have a hard time recommending it simply because of the added cost of the item.  But, it is useful with or without the Boom Arm to hold the hose up.  You can see how it holds the D50 hose in place in the my photo in post #6 in this thread.

On Edit: Parts #10 Support (492783) and #11 Strut (493040) along with part #7 Pipe Clamp (492784) make up the outrigger support for the Boom Arm.  The two support tubes (part #10) are held in place on either side of the handle with two of the pipe clamps (part #7) on each side (four required).  In many of the photos of the Boom Arm you will see these outrigger support tubes installed onto the handle and folded forward (in their stored position) against the sides of the CTs.  Some keep the struts (part #11) in the open end of one of the support tubes.  Once deployed, you can install the struts (an X brace) onto the two support tubes to fix these outrigger support tubes in place.  In earlier discussions on the Boom Arm, many of us noted that we either don't, or seldom use these outriggers to stabilize the Boom Arm.  With the Boom Arm hanging over the body of extractor, you will not need to deploy these outriggers.  However, with the Boom Arm extending out from the handle side you may find that deploying these outriggers is safer and will help to prevent the whole works from tipping over if you were to pull on the hose.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2010, 06:48 PM by Corwin »

Offline bionicus

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2011, 05:29 PM »
Just thought I'd bump this review to add that the new T-Loc versions of the larger cleaning sets, including this Workshop set (497 701), now come in a Sys 5 instead of the Sys 4. This is indicated in the catalogue and maybe discussed elsewhere on the forum but was still a nice surprise when mine showed up this afternoon from ToolTech. Loading the 36mm hose and everything else is now a piece of pie.

Offline Ken Nagrod

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2011, 09:11 PM »
How's the T-Loc lid handling the big snake cause there's nothing holding the corners like the classic models and their latches?

Offline Tom Bellemare

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2011, 09:15 PM »
Ken:

The SYS 5 holds it well.


Tom

Offline Saskataper

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2013, 10:42 PM »
I stopped in at a janitor/carpet cleaning supply today to see if I could find a cleaning kit similar to the workshop kit for a little better price but it turns out the festool workshop kit is a pretty good deal, they had the same head (wessel-work), almost the same tubes except two came to the same length 37", and a bent handle. Price they gave me was $270, only $23 less than the workshop kit that comes in a systainer with a hose.

Offline ScotF

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Re: Review of Festool Workshop Cleaning Set (Product No. 454767)
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2013, 12:19 AM »
It really is a good value in my opinion and I appreciate it every time I have to clean my floor.  It works very well and it is built to last. 

Scot