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Offline Benjamin

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Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« on: August 16, 2014, 09:54 PM »
I'm not sure if every one is aware but the Planex hose is easily the best 36mm festool hose out.

its lighter, way more flexible and coils up so much easier for better storage.

you'll see festool make all there hoses in the future just like the planex hose.

so if your looking for a 36mm hose spend the extra $20 a get the planex hose,

check it out your self, you'll see what I'm saying . my dealer in Toronto ( ATLAS ) actually recommended it in the past and I ended up just buying a regular green hose and now that I'm using the planex hose I'm kicking my self that I didn't purchase it sooner.

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 10:04 PM »
Just a note that the Planex hose does not work with all tools, even some that the regular 36mm hose works with. For instance, it will not work with the HL 850 planer. Just a consideration if you intend to buy it.

Offline Benjamin

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 10:31 PM »
true,

if you have the planer you can spend $28 and buy this to change the head or slice the head flat.

http://www.festoolusa.com/power-tool-accessories/hepa-dust-extractors/reducing-hose-sleeves/hose-sleeve-reducing-sleeve-for-antistatic-d-36-hose-487721

even at $228 the hose is worth it .

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2014, 12:23 AM »
Tom Bellemare @ Tool-Home makes a 2' reducer whip that solves this problem. Here's the link:

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/17990

I just received mine but haven't had a chance to use it since I've been laid up. I'll try to check it with a few tools and report back in a few days...
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Offline Saskataper

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 12:27 AM »
I agree, the Planex hose is far superior. I got a regular 36 AS when I bought the workshop cleaning kit and was very disappointed. Kinks really easily and hard to manage compared to the Planex hose. Where the Regular hose is better is on the kapex. The Planex hose is to flexible and drapes down the back catching on the saw.

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2014, 07:09 AM »
Tom Bellemare @ Tool-Home makes a 2' reducer whip that solves this problem. Here's the link:

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/17990

I just received mine but haven't had a chance to use it since I've been laid up. I'll try to check it with a few tools and report back in a few days...

That whip is a reducing whip - 36 mm to 27 mm.  That won't work as well with some of the tools as a straight 36mm hose.

Peter

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2014, 07:58 AM »
Tom Bellemare @ Tool-Home makes a 2' reducer whip that solves this problem. Here's the link:

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/17990

I just received mine but haven't had a chance to use it since I've been laid up. I'll try to check it with a few tools and report back in a few days...

That whip is a reducing whip - 36 mm to 27 mm.  That won't work as well with some of the tools as a straight 36mm hose.

Peter

The flip side is that it WILL work with tools that the 36mm hose won't work with, like sanders, the OF 1010, the DF 500... 

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2014, 08:24 AM »
Tom Bellemare @ Tool-Home makes a 2' reducer whip that solves this problem. Here's the link:

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/17990

I just received mine but haven't had a chance to use it since I've been laid up. I'll try to check it with a few tools and report back in a few days...

That whip is a reducing whip - 36 mm to 27 mm.  That won't work as well with some of the tools as a straight 36mm hose.

Peter

The flip side is that it WILL work with tools that the 36mm hose won't work with, like sanders, the OF 1010, the DF 500...

Is there any downside using the whip reducer on a 36mm hose with the smaller port tools?
Meaning will the performance using a DF500 with a 36mm hose+reducer be better or worse than using a DF500 with just a 27mm hose?

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2014, 10:54 AM »
On the DF500 the D27 or D36 with whip should be no problem. I guess technically the 36w/ W would be better but there doesn't seem to be any need for it. It is possible for the sanders (depending on the sander) that you may have trouble reducing the suction enough using the 36 W.


Seth
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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2014, 11:49 AM »
On the DF500 the D27 or D36 with whip should be no problem. I guess technically the 36w/ W would be better but there doesn't seem to be any need for it. It is possible for the sanders (depending on the sander) that you may have trouble reducing the suction enough using the 36 W.


Seth

Makes sense... Thanks, Seth.  That's an interesting point on the sanders.
Seems like the whip is probably a worthwhile purchase since I got the 36mm hose which is an absolute joy to use with most tools.

BTW - They should put a warning label on the OF1400 that you pretty much NEED the bigger hose.  It was the only festool I had a problem which as the dust collection was mediocre at best with the 27mm.  Once I stepped up to the 36mm it's been a dream, both freehand and in the CMS.

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2014, 02:23 PM »
I have to disagree on this one. That black Planex hose IS flexible and lighter, AND, easier to damage compared to the standard AS hose. Although the AS hoses have their drawbacks, I for one won't be giving up on them any time soon even though I have the Planex hose.
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Offline grbmds

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2014, 02:47 PM »
For me, this has been an ongoing dilemma. I upgraded to a 36mm hose when I bought my CT48 and have not regretted it. I feel it does a better job of collection on the TS55, OF1400, Domino 500. The sanders are the only tools which seem to not work as well. Even with the CT48 dialed down all the way, I still get slight chatter. I have a non-anti-static 27mm hose for my Fein which I tried with the ETS125 last night and it worked much better, easier to handle, smoother on the surface, etc.

Will connecting the 27mm hose to the 36mm hose perform like the 27mm only? If so, would the "reducer whip" be the only way to connect the 27mm to the 36mm. I should add that I also have the boom arm and switching hoses around is a little cumbersome so I'm looking for a way to easily use the 27mm hose just when sanding.

Also, I have an MFK700 trim router which I have not yet used. Will the MFK700 perform better with a 27 mm hose or won't that matter?
Randy

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2014, 03:25 PM »
For me, this has been an ongoing dilemma. I upgraded to a 36mm hose when I bought my CT48 and have not regretted it. I feel it does a better job of collection on the TS55, OF1400, Domino 500. The sanders are the only tools which seem to not work as well. Even with the CT48 dialed down all the way, I still get slight chatter. I have a non-anti-static 27mm hose for my Fein which I tried with the ETS125 last night and it worked much better, easier to handle, smoother on the surface, etc.

Will connecting the 27mm hose to the 36mm hose perform like the 27mm only? If so, would the "reducer whip" be the only way to connect the 27mm to the 36mm. I should add that I also have the boom arm and switching hoses around is a little cumbersome so I'm looking for a way to easily use the 27mm hose just when sanding.

Also, I have an MFK700 trim router which I have not yet used. Will the MFK700 perform better with a 27 mm hose or won't that matter?
   I would think using a 36mm hose for the small MFK700 router would feel bulky. Yes?   I haven't bothered with reducers or whips for the tools/hoses yet.
 I DO see their purpose, esp if you used one tool a lot that really needed the 36mm hose for DC but it felt just a bit easier to use with the reducer whip hose.
 For your sanders, esp. the DTS400 if you've got one, try speed 4, or 5 to smooth things out even at your lowest vacuum setting on the CT.
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Offline grbmds

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2014, 06:28 PM »
I appreciate the advice about the sanders, but I've tried with the 36mm hose on both the ETS125 and ETS150/5 (the only ones I own). The sanders work great and have great dust collection, even with the CT48 dialed down to the lowest setting but I still get a little chatter. They are still new. Is it possible that will change after use? Also, are you saying that dialing down the sanders will make them operate smoother without any chatter? I never really thought about that for most of the work I would do with them.
Randy

Offline Charlie Mac

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2014, 06:51 PM »
You could try the 27mm hose added to the end of the 36mm hose to reduce airflow further.

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2014, 12:08 AM »
You could try the 27mm hose added to the end of the 36mm hose to reduce airflow further.


You can't just connect the 27mm hose to the 36mm hose without an adapter. Plus, then I might just as well disconnect the 36mm hose from the vac inlet and connect the 27mm hose directly to the vac. It won't be on the boom arm then, but it wouldn't be any worse that how I've sanded with other sanders for many years. Before I invest in any other adapters or the 36 to 27 mm short hose from Tom.

Sorry I seem to have gotten the thread a little off track from the original subject, but I appreciate the suggestions. I will experiment and find the way that works the best for me.
Randy

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2014, 12:39 AM »
even with the CT48 dialed down to the lowest setting but I still get a little chatter.
Yes, a connector is needed. My point is that doubling the length of the hose, in particular, adding a hose of smaller diameter will reduce the airflow beyond what can be achieved by turning down the suction on the CT all the way. IF the chatter is caused by excess suction, this might or might not help, but it WILL reduce airflow.

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Re: Planex 36 mm hose for all use.
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2014, 07:54 AM »
even with the CT48 dialed down to the lowest setting but I still get a little chatter.
Yes, a connector is needed. My point is that doubling the length of the hose, in particular, adding a hose of smaller diameter will reduce the airflow beyond what can be achieved by turning down the suction on the CT all the way. IF the chatter is caused by excess suction, this might or might not help, but it WILL reduce airflow.

That will be one of the things I'll try. I think I'll use it for awhile and get some experience with it, experiment. I am not really concerned. The two sanders I have work great already; much better than any others I own (and will be selling).
Randy