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My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« on: September 03, 2021, 02:42 PM »
Hi all, I is have 7 routers a single speed Bosch 1617 fixed base/plunge kit, a single speed Bosch 1611 14 amp plunge and Bosch 1615 Evs plunge(1611 and 1615 both NOS bought for a song on eBay) a Bosch d handle 1618evs, a Bosch colt ( the newer one). And a Milwaukee 5625-20 in a bench dog router table. And now a festool plunge. I was going to buy the plunge base for the colt but then spied the 1010 at Paul b Zimmerman hardware . It was a older model that was $420 regular price $485. I wish festool would include edge guide which was a extra $48. 1010 comes with a dust catcher for edge work and a parallel guide for rail systems. I bought the festool for small projects like the box drums pictured. Some pics of my modest shop . downstairs in basement . Pics show where chips jam when no dust collection used. I bought a adapter on eBay to use my wap vac with it. I router some 45 chamfers on my deck with the 1010. The bit wouldn’t even fit the Bosch colt. Only uses 1/4 and 8mm shanks but I bought it for compact handling for small projects. The big 2200 festool doesn’t interest me cause I got big Bosch plungers. The 1400 doesn’t interest me cause I got the Bosch 1617 kit. Wanted to try a festool and I really like using routers. But I’m not drinking the kool aid and going all festool. I do like how lightweight and maneuverable the 1010 is. Plus I like using two hands to router. I m not sure how I feel about palm routing with colt . It was expensive but is a well built balanced tool
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2021, 07:14 PM »
I wish the collet was all nut. The Festool collet has just a small hex to wrench on at top and rest of collet is smooth. I like more area to put my wrench on. Not much room to maneuver wrench between plunge posts. Wrench is a high quality wrench. I wish router had a electric brake like the big makita plunge router does. Plunge is very smooth. The twist lock knob to lock plunge in position is nice feature .
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2021, 07:22 PM »
You do know there's a shaft lock, right? I love the shaft lock/single wrench bit changes.

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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2021, 07:42 PM »
Yep it’s a hole in the spindle and when you line it up and push button it locks it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2021, 07:46 PM »
Yep it’s a hole in the spindle and when you line it up and push button it locks it.
you should see the antiqued spindle lock on those big Bosch plungers(1611,1615)  I have .
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2021, 09:57 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2021, 10:07 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2021, 10:16 PM »
Pic of how Freud 45 chamfer fit the Festool but not the Bosch
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2021, 10:56 PM »
And to add to my review the Festool ran fairly cool despite making a full profile cut in pressure treated lumber with a fairly large 45 chamfer bit. I had it on speed 4. The top at the vents was pretty warm. The collet wasn’t hot removing bit. The Bosch  colt gets hot just running without a load on it. Collet is hot to the touch after 5 minutes of running.
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2021, 11:36 PM »
The 1010 is my favorite Festool router and I own all 4 of the Festool variants. I also own a couple of Milwaukee routers and the 1010 is still my favorite.

On the latest 1010, Festool moved a few things around so that you have more wrench room.

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2021, 12:10 AM »
I posted cause I was interested in some discussion on Festool. Is it the best handling router I ever used? Yes. Is it head and shoulders better than a Bosch . No. . It’s not like upgrading from a ski or ryobi to a Bosch . It’s the law of diminishing returns. You get maybe 25% better performance for 3 times plus the price and them to add salt the wound you have to buy your own fence. You have 30 days to try and you can return . I will keep it and enjoy it. Especially since because of its size nimbleness it will be my most used router aside from the big Milwaukee 5625-20 in the table. Plus it’s the least expensive Festool router. I would never buy the big 2200 for $995. I got a brand new USA made Bosch 1615 Evs new old stock for $120 some odd dollars on eBay. Now granted just as much as I think 3/4 ton diesel trucks are neat I’m not buying one. The 2200 is way overkill. The 1010 can and will be used a alot. However, it will probably be my only Festool . A curiosity I’m my arsenal of tools. Always wanted to own at least one Festool.  The  trion jigsaws aren’t exorbitantly priced .  Neither is the multi tool. Who knows maybe I’ll bite the bulleti on another Festool
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2021, 04:50 AM »
The 1010 is my favorite Festool router and I own all 4 of the Festool variants. I also own a couple of Milwaukee routers and the 1010 is still my favorite.

On the latest 1010, Festool moved a few things around so that you have more wrench room.
. Thanks for your opinion, I was on the fence about buying it cause it only uses 1/4 and 8 mm collets I even have a 1/4 roundover with a 1/2 shank.  I bought a Freud 1/4 inch router bit set for the Bosch colt. Then I figured  I’d try it since I have the 1/4 bits now.  Maybe I should find a nice 8mm set of bits
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2021, 09:37 AM »
I want to use this router in my little basement shop where the dust collection and quiet ( compared to other routers) will be beneficial.  I plan on practicing on scrap wood to really get to know the machine. A lot of my older projects I just dove right in which resulted in errors and frustration.
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2021, 10:20 AM »
Thanks for your opinion, I was on the fence about buying it cause it only uses 1/4 and 8 mm collets I even have a 1/4 roundover with a 1/2 shank.  I bought a Freud 1/4 inch router bit set for the Bosch colt. Then I figured  I’d try it since I have the 1/4 bits now.  Maybe I should find a nice 8mm set of bits

When all my routers were Milwaukee, I purchased a set of Bosch roundover bits with 1/2" shanks. Even the 1/16" & 1/8" radius bits have 1/2" shanks which can be kind of clunky but if that's all you know you just live with it.

When I picked up the 1010 I also picked up a Festool 1 mm & a 1.5 mm radius roundover bits with a 8 mm shaft. The smaller diameter shafts are really nice to work with.

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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2021, 01:48 PM »
Anxious to try the adapter for the 1010 dust port. It needs made yet. Guy on eBay makes them on 3D printer . Hoping it doesn’t clog. It clogged router deck but then there was no vacuum attached . The Bosch 1617 dust collection with round ports works fine. Here’s a link to the adapter. I can force the round rubber adapter for my WAP vacuum on but then it falls off. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Festool-Cleantec-27mm-Locking-Dust-Adapter-for-Festool-OF-1010-Router-/265073864218?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2021, 05:25 PM »
Got my fence via fed ex fro hartville tools in Ohio. Annoyed that dust cup and micro adjuster is separate to buy. But hey I got another set of rods. Fence sits in case nicely .
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2021, 07:25 PM »
  Maybe I should find a nice 8mm set of bits

That is a very good move. I got a few 8mm shank bits when I first got a MFK700, but it is a fairly specialty tool. But when I got my hands on a OF1010, it became a priority for me. In the US, that's not the easiest thing. Unless you have a pretty good woodworking store locally, you're not going to find them in a retail situation. In-line is your friend in this case.
Lee Valley has them for a lot of profiles in the small to medium range, available individually. Bosch also has a nice set, but I have only found it through Amazon UK. Then it shipped from Germany.
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2021, 10:46 PM »
Took a scrap piece of cedar and used a 1/4 mortising bit and made a 3/4 inch dado in 2 passes. Dado filled with chips but moved router back over it and vacuum sucked chips out. Rest of passes nothing was left in dado. Then used a 3/8 roundover without chip defector and there was minimal debris .
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2021, 10:51 PM »
Mortising bit pics. Plus WAP vac hookup.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2021, 11:11 PM »
3/8 roundover full depth pass . No chip catcher/deflector on. Minimum debri on router and workmate / table
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2021, 11:34 PM »
I can see why Festool vacuum clamp is a great idea. Work mate good for 2x lumber but with 1x lumber fence with hit orange dogs
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2021, 11:43 PM »
Doesn’t take much to scratch baseplate . Unless it’s cedar stain that cleans off
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2021, 11:48 PM »
I think Festool should have more depth stops(turret) like Bosch. Those are pretty big depth changes for a 1/4 bit. And I know you can adjust depth rod as well
A depth turret.
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2021, 11:55 PM »
The WAP 840A bought on clearance at Sears many moons ago. I sure Festool vacs have even more suction so there would be less debris than with the WAP
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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2021, 04:23 PM »
[ Specified attachment is not available ]Played around on a old box drum with a trend 45 chamfer and 1/8 whiteside roundover . Had to use dust catcher with full profile of 1/8 round over used. Dust catcher catches when you round the corner . You would have to finish cut on one side then start fresh on other side. That’s probably the right way to do it anyway. I just start at one place and go all the way around. You can rout one handed . Found this out cause sometimes vac hose catches on work and then I hold hose with one hand and rout with the other.
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2021, 05:37 PM »
“ Dado filled with chips but moved router back over it and vacuum sucked chips out.”

Run the router the other direction. When the dust port leads the bit the duct collection is poorer than when the dust port follows the bit.

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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2021, 05:42 PM »
“ Dado filled with chips but moved router back over it and vacuum sucked chips out.”

Run the router the other direction. When the dust port leads the bit the duct collection is poorer than when the dust port follows the bit.
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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2021, 07:44 PM »
A spiral up-cut bit will help with that too. It pulls the chips up and into the vacuum rather than just stirring them around down in the dado/groove.
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2021, 03:14 AM »
A spiral up-cut bit will help with that too. It pulls the chips up and into the vacuum rather than just stirring them around down in the dado/groove.
.  I need to get more of them  I have one a 1/4 shank 1/4 inch Freud
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2021, 08:40 AM »
This is better than the owners manual:

There are supplemental manuals for most of Festool's products and tools.  They're linked on their website.

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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2021, 12:46 PM »
Dust collection works so well router can hold a board mid air with vacuum on
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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2021, 01:08 PM »
That's awesome.  There's another piece to that collector as well.  At least for my 1400 there is, not sure about the 1010 though. 


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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2021, 03:41 PM »
That's awesome.  There's another piece to that collector as well.  At least for my 1400 there is, not sure about the 1010 though. 


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. Mine has the plastic insert snapped in. My dust port is metal and built in
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« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2021, 04:21 PM »
That's awesome.  There's another piece to that collector as well.  At least for my 1400 there is, not sure about the 1010 though. 


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That is one of the differences of the OF1400. That part is essentially "built-in" to the OF1010.
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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2021, 11:16 PM »
Since I was working on the NOS Bosch 1611 and 1615 applying liquid graphite lube to the plunge posts I decided to just put a tiny bit of graphite lube on the Festool 1010. posts. Made it even smoother plunging.
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« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2021, 01:32 PM »
Really enjoying the router. Actually looking for things to use it on. I don’t believe there are festfools.  As long as you use something and can afford it buy it. I’m 53. I’ll have that router til I die hopefully in my 90s. Do my philosophy is buy great once cry once. Buy cheap you’ll be crying all the time. And that router is sized to be used a lot.
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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2021, 08:04 PM »
I ordered these 8mm shank set from Amazon uk. It’s Bosch but black clorored as opposed to blue.  I paid $134. Since my order up to $154. 6 bits were $50. 15 were $99. And the 30 I got was $134.  I really wanted a high quality starter set with maybe 6 bits for same money. Figured I might as well go for the 30 since it’s not like I can gradually build my 8mm shank collection . So now my little Bosch trimmer has a Freud boxed 1/4 set . And the Festool has a 8mm set.  And the Bosch 1611,1615evs, 1617, 1618evs and Milwaukee 5625-20 get the extensive collection of Freud, Cmt, white side and Mlcs. Hope the set is a least decent Bosch Professional 2607017475 30-Piece Set Wood Router Bit Set for 8mm Shank Router https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ML7K2G8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_GAMER5ZJX7VSRJ947WB6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2021, 08:02 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2021, 08:06 PM »
Pics are of port adapter made on a 3D printer from a guy on eBay. My WAP vacuum rubber port adapter fits perfect . Beats prying the rubber adapter on the oblong Festool dust port.
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« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2021, 09:58 PM »
Nice vacuum adapter. 

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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2021, 09:11 PM »
Got my Bosch 8mm shank router bit set today. They are black finish made in China. 8mm definitely is beefier than 1/4. I compared a 8mm Bosch to a 1/4 Freud . Both flush trim bits.
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« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2021, 11:06 PM »
Tested a Bosch 20mm.  Slight burn marks at beginning and end of cut. Slight burn on right hand side where router got off track a little. Used the Festool fence
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« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2021, 11:10 PM »
The fence
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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2021, 09:25 PM »
Routed a new shelf using a existing shelf as a template . The original mdf shelf was breaking up. OF 1010 was perfect to cut a shelf out of 15/32 plywood. Used the other shelf as a template pin pin nailed to plywood. 8mm shank Bosch top bearing bit used. Now if I was cutting 3/4 plywood I would use one of my midsize routers and a 1/2 shank but. The littie Festool handles so well it’s my go to unless I’m cutting thick stock or using big bits.
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2021, 09:51 PM »
The little Festool handles so well it’s my go to unless I’m cutting thick stock or using big bits.

The 1010 is also my go-to Festool router for 70% of what I do. It's just such a pleasure to use. I own every Festool router plus 2 Milwaukee routers and the 1010 still does the lions-share of the work. The only annoying feature is the oval dust port.

Your thoughts on the Tool Curve dust port adapter?

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« Reply #46 on: October 22, 2021, 05:06 AM »
The little Festool handles so well it’s my go to unless I’m cutting thick stock or using big bits.

The 1010 is also my go-to Festool router for 70% of what I do. It's just such a pleasure to use. I own every Festool router plus 2 Milwaukee routers and the 1010 still does the lions-share of the work. The only annoying feature is the oval dust port.

Your thoughts on the Tool Curve dust port adapter?   I love it!  Fits nice and snug on the router and the vacuum end fits my WAP vacuum rubber tool adapter and my 27mm Festool hose ends perfect and snug. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Festool-Cleantec-27mm-Locking-Dust-Adapter-for-Festool-OF-1010-Router-/265073864218?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0  Takes about a week to ship. Made on a 3D printer.
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2022, 10:52 AM »
Put a dedicated torx screwdriver in the case to attach edge dust hood.
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Re: My new old stock Festool 1010 plunge router
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2022, 05:39 PM »
I did the same thing, mostly for swapping the guide bushings.
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