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Offline Kiki231

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MFK700 Set
« on: April 26, 2022, 09:58 AM »
Good day
after reading many posts over the last several years on this website, i decided to join and post my experience with the MFK.
I have many festool components, acquiring each as the jobs i do warrant them.
Recently, i was commissioned to rebuild a walk in closet and reface a large group of drawers and doors in an adjacent ensuite. The closet was a fresh rebuild using UV Birch (19mm) frameless cabinets with full overlay slab doors of the same material. All the edges of the doors, drawers , and facing edges were banded in 2mm p/f maple. Due to supply shortages, I had to use both p/g and bare banding. The closet totaled 720 ft of banding all said and done.  I have countless years experience using both blade trimmers and bastard files, but time was limited right now (i am really backed up -- just like everyone in the trades now!)
In the adjacent bathroom, i needed to make up 31 slab drawer fronts with 10mil paperback walnut veneer, 3/4 particle, and 1 mm white  melamine backing, and once the components were cut to size, then edge banded with solid 1/4' walnut , finishing with a 1/4 round over after trimming.

As mentioned , time was short, so i considered the MFK to speed the process. I came to this forum for some practical stories from those who have used the MFK as not only a facing trim router, but one that can handle edge band trimming (with the 1.5 degree base) .
The few responses tended to steer the OP away from thin edge banding (favoring solid)  and the MFK as well. After reading through most of the posts, there didn't seem to be anyone who had extensive knowledge of how well the tool works (or doesn't)

So I went out on a limb and bought the set. (includes both a vertical base, along with the 1.5 horizontal base and a few dust shrouds. The units are extremely hard to find, and most dealers are backed ordered until the end of the summer. I finally found one at the very friendly Felder Imports in Manitoba, who happily covered the shipping to here on the east coast.

In a nutshell, had i known the tool would have worked as well as it did, I would have bought one years ago. On face trimming, it is much better balanced than my DeWalt 619, as the base pulls the center of gravity onto the material away from the edge, and its less likely to tip off. The vacuum hose takes a little getting used to , but the dust (or lack thereof) is a breath of fresh air (pardon the pun) 

On edge banding, however, is where the unit really shines. I have read some comments where folks suggest the the banding glue (specifically on the iron-on stuff) gums up the bit. Well, I ran about 300 feet of the stuff, and it only left a smudge line on the bit. The bare banding required glue-- and i use a gluing machine for that,-- did produce a thicker glue smudge line on the bit , but after about 100 feet of trimming, i would take 15 seconds and scrape it off with my thumbnail.
On solid banding, where wood glue is used , this thing plowed through like a champ. For material caution, I did climb cuts on the edges, and obviously that takes some care, but the results were perfectly flush , and the adjustment is incredibly fine.
The ends i trimmed with Fastcap flush cut pliers , and my Japanese flush cut saw.

After trimming, I flipped it up, and rounded over the solid banding on the drawers.

Bits used were the Festool 18mm edge trimming bit (no bearing) , along with a Ryobi 1/4' flush cut with bearing (face trimming) , and a Diablo 1/4" round-over.

Aside from the time saved, the edge banding , in particular the 2mm maple, had a consistent finish on the edge which sometimes is lacking when done by hand trimming and sanding. Furthermore, for  those who have worked with Asian sourced UV VC, you know how thin and fragile the face is, the minute you start hitting the corner with a sander (even lightly)it peals like onion skin.

I recommend this tool! 
 

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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2022, 08:10 PM »
You have obviously missed virtually every post I have ever made about it then [unsure]
I am somewhere near the top of the MFK700 fan club, so much so that I have 2 of them.
Do yourself a favor and get a zero degree base for it too. This makes a huge difference with thicker edges, especially with smaller edge profiles.
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400/ LR32, FS1900, FS 2424/ LR32, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set, Bluetooth remote
CT15
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
RTS 400
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation/Plate
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set
Socket/Ratchet set
Pliers set

Offline Ebuwan

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2022, 12:22 PM »
Count me in; i have one and that combined with the Conturo for making cabinets, and man, it's super sweet.

Only thing i wish i had was Vacuum clamps to speed it up.

Offline Axis39

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2022, 09:32 AM »
I recently purchased a Domino DF 500 and an MFK 700.  They have literally changed my world. The MFK 700 has revolutionized how quickly I can do edge banding!  In the short few weeks I have owned it, I would estimate it has saved me more than 24 man hours!  That pays for itself several times over...  Just in the span of three or four weeks?!?!?!

My only regret is not doing it sooner!

I have used it for all kinds of edge banding, thick, thin, whatever.  I am still going to buy the 0 deg base and modify it to cut wider edge banding.

I used to use a very sharp chisel to trim my edge banding.  It was faster than any of the trimmers, more accurate than any router jig I had come up with, or found.  But, you had to keep an eye on twisty grain!  if it was thick edge banding, I had created a multi-plane base for an old DW610 router.  (The cord on the 6210 is cracking badly now, and replacing it is a nightmare!).  It did okay, but the lack of a fixture to keep the bit in the same location, relative to the edge, was a serious shortfall.  The 1.5 deg cut makes it incredibly useful nd quick!

I cranked out 22 drawers in a really short amount of time the other day...  Each one was edge banded, and took literally seconds to trim with the MFK.  Woulda taken hours and hours longer without.

It has truly given me a serious mind shift....  It really has me rethinking a lot fo the ways I do business, actually.

Not so with the MFK.

Offline simonh

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2022, 06:08 PM »
I love my MFK700 too. I use it for edgebanding and also for round-overs/chamfers on solid wood and trimming dowel plugs. I have the 1/2/3mm round-over bits, the chamfer bit, the edge trimming cutter and the plane cutter.

I went a different route than most and started with the MFK700 EQ/B for edgebanding with the Conturo.  I then added the 1.5 and 0-degree bases for solid edgebanding work. I don't have the side fence but then I never imagine myself using it for routing grooves as I have other options.
-Simon

Offline luvmytoolz

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2022, 03:14 AM »
Couldn't agree more, love the MFK700!

Fantastic handy little thing!

Offline Coen

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2022, 02:08 PM »
You have obviously missed virtually every post I have ever made about it then [unsure]
I am somewhere near the top of the MFK700 fan club, so much so that I have 2 of them.
Do yourself a favor and get a zero degree base for it too. This makes a huge difference with thicker edges, especially with smaller edge profiles.

If you have the MFK Set, does the 3rd base fit in the same Systainer?

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2022, 02:25 PM »
You have obviously missed virtually every post I have ever made about it then [unsure]
I am somewhere near the top of the MFK700 fan club, so much so that I have 2 of them.
Do yourself a favor and get a zero degree base for it too. This makes a huge difference with thicker edges, especially with smaller edge profiles.

If you have the MFK Set, does the 3rd base fit in the same Systainer?


No.  Which is too bad but there is already quite a bit of stuff filling the Sys that the set comes in. I transferred mine to a Combi-II. The drawer holds the additional base plus extra items.

Seth

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2022, 04:15 PM »
It will, just barely, upside down on the left side.

To make it easier to fit I take off the big knob.

Offline Coen

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2022, 04:26 PM »
Got any pics  [tongue]?

I saw someone else saying the same, promising a pic that apparently never arrived.

I am looking at the used goods website for a MFK 700, but the usual asking price is like 75%+ of new for 8 year old stuff.  [eek] But at least that would save me a lot of space (no Sys3)
« Last Edit: November 19, 2022, 04:28 PM by Coen »

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2022, 04:54 PM »
Have to take the big knob off to fit in the drawer as well. So it  may be better in the regular Sys unless there are other add ins.

Seth

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2022, 05:42 PM »
Revising my previous reply, with the big knob off the extra base fits easily.

I started to take a photo showing this when I realized the power cord was absent. I keep a 16 gauge cord (universal) with the vac so I don’t have to stow or carry a redundant cord in every Sys. This practice becomes regrettable only very occasionally.

Turns out the cord will fit in with everything (including the parallel guide) after all. But I used an older 16g cord with more flexible insulation than the cord that comes with the tool.




The instructions also fit on top of the base on the left side.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2022, 06:30 PM »
The thing I really appreciate about it is that the machine fits in the Systainer with any of the bases installed. Mine has the horizontal base on it 95% of the time.
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400/ LR32, FS1900, FS 2424/ LR32, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set, Bluetooth remote
CT15
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
RTS 400
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation/Plate
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set
Socket/Ratchet set
Pliers set

Offline Coen

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2022, 07:22 PM »
Oooh. Very nice!

Offline jobsworth

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2023, 03:34 PM »
Im loving mine.

However, One thing i caution ya'll about is make sure all the knobs are tight.

 If yer routing a lot like grooves for alot of drawers periodically check the tightness of the knobs they may come loose including the edge guide and the big knob that secures the debth.

dont ax me how I found that out

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2023, 06:08 PM »
Im loving mine.

However, One thing i caution ya'll about is make sure all the knobs are tight.

 If yer routing a lot like grooves for alot of drawers periodically check the tightness of the knobs they may come loose including the edge guide and the big knob that secures the debth.

dont ax me how I found that out

I have never had that happen? but I always grip it by that knob to keep it balanced. That is especially important with a longer bit, like I use. I think I subconsciously keep it tightened in use.
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400/ LR32, FS1900, FS 2424/ LR32, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set, Bluetooth remote
CT15
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
RTS 400
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation/Plate
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set
Socket/Ratchet set
Pliers set

Offline jobsworth

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2023, 12:06 AM »
Im loving mine.

However, One thing i caution ya'll about is make sure all the knobs are tight.

 If yer routing a lot like grooves for alot of drawers periodically check the tightness of the knobs they may come loose including the edge guide and the big knob that secures the debth.

dont ax me how I found that out

I have never had that happen? but I always grip it by that knob to keep it balanced. That is especially important with a longer bit, like I use. I think I subconsciously keep it tightened in use.

it was the first time that happened to me and I used mine quite a few times

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: MFK700 Set
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2023, 07:09 AM »
I use mine in some rather unconventional ways, like on that reception desk I posted, with the curved Corian panel on the front.
As you can imagine, heating and bending such a large piece, the edge where it gets glued to the countertop surface is not perfectly straight after the process. It needs to be straight for a good seemless look though. So I glued the panel in place and ran the MFK700, with the zero degree base, around it. This not only straightens it out, but produces a consistent off-set from the top.
I'm sure it was never intended to make a 1/4" off-set like that, but a simple sub-base double-side taped to the platen, worked great.
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400/ LR32, FS1900, FS 2424/ LR32, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set, Bluetooth remote
CT15
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
RTS 400
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation/Plate
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set
Socket/Ratchet set
Pliers set