Author Topic: Mafelll vs Festool ( and others!) (Read 96321 times)

Alex · « **Reply #30 on:** December 14, 2015, 02:56 AM »

Quote from: jacko9 on December 13, 2015, 08:53 PM

Good post to stimulate discussion but, on a Festool Web Site it's not going to be very popular.

I don't know, most people here are pretty nuts about Mafell too. And the OP wrote a big piece, but there's not really anything surprising in it, because Mafell vs Festool has been spoken of a lot here already.

What baffles me a bit is that the OP spent a lot of time to write that essay and then doesn't even bother to follow up for one second. Why invest 2 or 3 hours of your time to get all that together and then move on without looking back?

jobsworth · « **Reply #31 on:** December 14, 2015, 07:21 AM »

Oh maybe cuz he was pimping his store trying to drum up business.

Happens all the time

GhostFist · « **Reply #32 on:** December 14, 2015, 10:19 AM »

There's only one store that sells mafell in all of North America so I doubt they need to drum up business.

Wuffles · « **Reply #33 on:** December 14, 2015, 11:17 AM »

Quote from: Wuffles on December 02, 2015, 02:58 PM

Quote from: jobsworth on December 02, 2015, 02:30 PM
1st post??

Gives the phone number of the new dealer in the US?

Me thinks this is more then a unbiased review

Well, there's only one dealer in the US isn't there?

Quote from: GhostFist on December 14, 2015, 10:19 AM

There's only one store that sells mafell in all of North America so I doubt they need to drum up business.

Yep, I agree(d) with that.

charley1968 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 14, 2015, 12:54 PM »

I don't get the 'vs.' part. I know what it means, but i see it more like 'and'..

jobsworth · « **Reply #35 on:** December 14, 2015, 03:56 PM »

Quote from: GhostFist on December 14, 2015, 10:19 AM

There's only one store that sells mafell in all of North America so I doubt they need to drum up business.

simple its called face time, he's getting free advertisement by letting the consumers of his competition know.

No worries, you guys can buy the "review" if ya want, I don't. A one post wonder who's out of no where and disappears after writing war and peace with out even commenting of the conversation in the thread he started?

I just didn't just get off the Calais ferry....

Holmz · « **Reply #36 on:** December 14, 2015, 04:09 PM »

Quote from: jobsworth on December 14, 2015, 03:56 PM

Quote from: GhostFist on December 14, 2015, 10:19 AM
There's only one store that sells mafell in all of North America so I doubt they need to drum up business.

simple its called face time, he's getting free advertisement by letting the consumers of his competition know.

No worries, you guys can buy the "review" if ya want, I don't. A one post wonder who's out of no where and disappears after writing war and peace with out even commenting of the conversation in the thread he started?

I just didn't just get off the Calais ferry....

We can speculate all we want as to the reason, but as @charley1968 said "And" seems a better connector in the sentence.

Wuffles · « **Reply #37 on:** December 14, 2015, 04:21 PM »

Wouldn't a Mafell dealer know how to spell Mafell?

GhostFist · « **Reply #38 on:** December 14, 2015, 06:17 PM »

GhostFist · « **Reply #39 on:** December 14, 2015, 06:18 PM »

charley1968 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 14, 2015, 07:41 PM »

Mafelluminati??

jobsworth · « **Reply #41 on:** December 15, 2015, 02:02 PM »

green fever · « **Reply #42 on:** December 23, 2015, 08:58 AM »

Wow , can you show Vader using the force on an mft3 ? I believe he may have used yours !!

jobsworth · « **Reply #43 on:** December 23, 2015, 11:13 AM »

Mines lookalike the death start after Luke got done with it

leakyroof · « **Reply #44 on:** December 26, 2015, 03:12 PM »

Quote from: jobsworth on December 14, 2015, 03:56 PM

Quote from: GhostFist on December 14, 2015, 10:19 AM
There's only one store that sells mafell in all of North America so I doubt they need to drum up business.

simple its called face time, he's getting free advertisement by letting the consumers of his competition know.

No worries, you guys can buy the "review" if ya want, I don't. A one post wonder who's out of no where and disappears after writing war and peace with out even commenting of the conversation in the thread he started?

I just didn't just get off the Calais ferry....

. Who knows, he might have a nice deal on an English Channel Tunnel to sell you.....

jobsworth · « **Reply #45 on:** December 27, 2015, 04:02 AM »

I was going to swap the Brooklyn bridge for a tunnel

Coliban · « **Reply #46 on:** December 27, 2015, 11:41 AM »

I had not a lot experience with all those Festool and Mafell tools, but i bought the Mafell P1cc for my lumber yards and i must say that i can second the statement of the OP. The P1cc is the most sturdy, accurate, strong and handy jigsaw i´ve ever used and i cut 9cm beams like butter.
(That was the reason i´ve purchased the MT55cc, but didnt used it until now). And i think the OP is also right on this, as long as it comes to system integration, the best i know for that is festool.

yetihunter · « **Reply #47 on:** December 30, 2015, 06:03 AM »

Yo, ghostfist, is this true about Timberwolf being in Chicago?
I don't have a need nor the finances for Mafell and the Timber Framing equipment they carry; but I can dream.

GhostFist · « **Reply #48 on:** December 30, 2015, 10:01 AM »

As I understand, timberwolf has just opened a distribution center in Chicago. Don't take that as a plug for them or to say anything against them either. I have no formal connection to any distributor or manufacturer and only care if people are happy with what ever equipment they choose.

yetihunter · « **Reply #49 on:** January 22, 2016, 11:54 AM »

No worries, I only take it as more fuel to convince a friend to buy some saws so that I can play with them.

That said, I can't even convince people to move away from sanding drywall compound by hand, let alone buy a Flex or a Festool. :0

GhostFist · « **Reply #50 on:** January 22, 2016, 12:21 PM »

There carpentry/construction industry is stubborn, to say the least.

yetihunter · « **Reply #51 on:** January 22, 2016, 02:23 PM »

Not to mention, they all look this:

leakyroof · « **Reply #52 on:** January 22, 2016, 03:13 PM »

Quote from: yetihunter on January 22, 2016, 02:23 PM

Not to mention, they all look this:

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Okay, DITKA with a hand sander versus 10 guys with Festool sanders.... Da Bears.....

Brice Burrell · « **Reply #53 on:** January 22, 2016, 03:27 PM »

Quote from: yetihunter on January 22, 2016, 02:23 PM

Not to mention, they all look this:

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Careful, Gary Katz resembles that remake.

Mr Jones · « **Reply #54 on:** January 23, 2016, 10:16 AM »

Thought I would weigh in on this subject. I've has the TS55 for 10 years and Mafell 55 for 5yrs. The Mafell is the better tool by a small margin. I normally keep the TS55 in the CMS, this was part of the reasoning for buying the Mafell as it's a fuss getting the TS in and out of the CMS.

I would buy either of them again and they both work well enough for professional use but as I've already said, the Mafell is better by a small margin. I use the Mafell on a range of Festool tracks with no problem. The one Mafell track I have does seem better made and nicer to handle, the mitre arrangement works better than the old style track mitre arrangement that I have for the festool tracks, and better than the old style MFT mitre which was a pain to set up properly.

It's possible the recent Festool tools have caught up in terms of mitre setting etc. My experience is with the earlier TS55.

jacko9 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 24, 2016, 08:39 PM »

I have the Mafell for several months but, since I have a table saw the only use I get out of it is to break down sheet goods. So no matter if it's a Festool or Mafell track saw they only have limited use if you have a very good cabinet table saw with sliding table.

charley1968 · « **Reply #56 on:** January 25, 2016, 09:30 AM »

..if..

jacko9 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 25, 2016, 07:47 PM »

Quote from: charley1968 on January 25, 2016, 09:30 AM

..if..

Chinski · « **Reply #58 on:** April 26, 2019, 02:24 AM »

Not sure I’d agree with OP that you will never get kickback cutting ply as long as your track is clean. I’ve certainly experienced this with the 55 and 75.

Jiggy Joiner · « **Reply #59 on:** April 26, 2019, 05:13 AM »

I’ve mentioned in other threads, I have three plunge saws, the TS55, the Mafell MT55 and the Makita 601 cordless bluetooth.

Just an opinion now etc, the Festool and Mafell are corded and the Makita cordless.
My personal favourite is the Makita, I don’t know the exact reason why? Maybe as it has it’s own cordless bluetooth extractor that I’ve dedicated to it, or the smooth cut, or the power, I just don’t know?

There is certainly nothing wrong with the TS55 or MT55, and the Makita isn’t perfect, it just suits me.

The Mafell in all honesty is again in my opinion the best designed, it has some nice touches like the bevel locking for example. Instead of a lock nut front and rear, it only has the front, there is no rear, instead a metal cable runs through the casing, so when you operate the lock lever, it tensions the cable locking the saw solid on the bevel. The blade change and dust extraction system is the best I’ve seen on a plunge saw. It has a little guide that shows the actual cut line etc, lots of nice little touches, and very well made like you’d expect. It is a really nice saw but, the Makita is still my go to plunge saw.

I think if I ever buy another plunge saw in this size, I would seriously consider the cordless Mafell as I have heard such great things about them, and if the my MT55 was cordless, I think I would use it more. I think the cordless is basically the same as the corded design wise though. Apparently Mafell have now agreed a battery platform standard, meaning there are I think, eight German manufacturers using the same battery platform?
I saw a kitchen fitter using the cordless version a couple of weeks ago, apparently he’s owned it from when it was released, and drools over it every time he uses it.

My comparison probably isn’t fair, as I’m comparing cordless and corded tools, as we are trying to port over to cordless for the majority of our mobile/site tools. I do love the freedom of cordless though, and it solves the ongoing 110 volt v 240 volt grey areas on many commercial sites over here.
I know even with cordless you still need a hose for DC but, that Makita and extractor is compact, lightweight and can be plonked down just about anywhere. The drawbacks are only really batteries but, we have plenty of those.

I see a fair bit of Mafell being used, and many prefer it to Festool but the price tags like Festool are high, probably more so than Festool in most of the tools.

The MT55 is the only Mafell tool I own but, I have hankered after an Erika 85E for a long time ow, and if it weren’t for other recent outlay, I would have bought one. At the moment I’m looking at either the Erika or the Festool CS70, the 85mm depth of cut is the draw though.

So for me, Mafell is very nice and without doubt superb quality, not the be all and end all though.
They don’t make a Domino type machine for a start