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Offline Cheese

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #120 on: February 26, 2022, 01:47 PM »
Also, I didn't think the non-AS hose would be that big of a deal until I walked over and bumped into the washing machine after sanding.  Yikes!  Still worth it for the ease of use of the setup.

Ya that kind of gets your attention.  [smile]

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Offline Geblaat

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #121 on: May 07, 2022, 05:39 PM »
I'm struggling getting this HSK 80 x 130 connected to the hose of the CTL MIDI-I which has should be the Ø 27/32 x 3,5 m-AS/CTR hose, the converters that came with the HSK 80x130 itself are too small and the rubber ring around it does not fit the MIDI hose.

Is there any connector/converter that I'm missing or should I try to get that D21,5 hose somewhere? Prefer to have a converter/connector though.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #122 on: May 08, 2022, 10:14 AM »
I'm struggling getting this HSK 80 x 130 connected to the hose of the CTL MIDI-I which has should be the Ø 27/32 x 3,5 m-AS/CTR hose, the converters that came with the HSK 80x130 itself are too small and the rubber ring around it does not fit the MIDI hose.

Is there any connector/converter that I'm missing or should I try to get that D21,5 hose somewhere? Prefer to have a converter/connector though.

Hi,

    I just tried it with the new style 27 connector. I got it to go on the reducing ring. But it is an extremely tight fit. It is tight on the old style but even more so on the new.

    I did a quick internet search and the 495019 hose is still available. If you plan to use the sanding block much at all, then you will  appreciate  the much lighter hose. 

Seth

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #123 on: May 08, 2022, 12:06 PM »
I'd echo what Seth suggested especially if you're using it vertically or over your head. The weight of the heavier hose wants to constantly pull it down. I managed to attach my HSK 80 directly to the older style AS green hose and the operation was clunky on vertical surfaces.

The only drawback is that the 21.5 hose is non antistatic,  [sad]  so if you bump up against something that's grounded, well, you'll be subtly reminded.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #124 on: May 08, 2022, 04:17 PM »
I dont know why but none of my hoses are anti static and I have never gotten one shock plus I have about 50' of pvc.  I live in very high humidity location so not sure if thats why but it seems odd while others have issues.

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #125 on: May 08, 2022, 05:06 PM »
I dont know why but none of my hoses are anti static and I have never gotten one shock plus I have about 50' of pvc.  I live in very high humidity location so not sure if thats why but it seems odd while others have issues.

High humidity is your friend.  [smile]

Offline ironchefboyardee

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #126 on: June 15, 2022, 11:23 AM »
I just received this sanding block, and the vent is extremely difficult to turn. I was able to turn it with a lot of effort and time but I don't think I'd try it again without gloves. I remember a review mentioning it moved too easily, so I'm wondering if Festool over compensated. Regardless, should I keep it anyway because I won't need to adjust it very often if at all?

Is the vent necessary if you can adjust the suction at the DC?

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #127 on: June 15, 2022, 12:12 PM »
I just received this sanding block, and the vent is extremely difficult to turn. I was able to turn it with a lot of effort and time but I don't think I'd try it again without gloves. I remember a review mentioning it moved too easily, so I'm wondering if Festool over compensated. Regardless, should I keep it anyway because I won't need to adjust it very often if at all?

Is the vent necessary if you can adjust the suction at the DC?

My valve stiffens up considerably after it hasn't been used in a while, so when I need to grab a pliers to turn it, I instead lightly lubricate it with DynaGlide and that's all it takes.

I still use the vent even though I'm using a MINI, MIDI or CT 22 because the vent is on the tool and I don't have to walk 15 feet to adjust the suction of the vac.

Offline ironchefboyardee

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #128 on: June 15, 2022, 03:11 PM »
I just received this sanding block, and the vent is extremely difficult to turn. I was able to turn it with a lot of effort and time but I don't think I'd try it again without gloves. I remember a review mentioning it moved too easily, so I'm wondering if Festool over compensated. Regardless, should I keep it anyway because I won't need to adjust it very often if at all?

Is the vent necessary if you can adjust the suction at the DC?

My valve stiffens up considerably after it hasn't been used in a while, so when I need to grab a pliers to turn it, I instead lightly lubricate it with DynaGlide and that's all it takes.

I still use the vent even though I'm using a MINI, MIDI or CT 22 because the vent is on the tool and I don't have to walk 15 feet to adjust the suction of the vac.

Good to know. I just removed the valve from the block (required vice grips) and now the green collar will turn. I'll try lubing it and reinstalling.

Edit: I applied a drop of oil, and I can rotate it by hand now. Thanks for the suggestion.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2022, 03:19 PM by ironchefboyardee »

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #129 on: June 15, 2022, 03:58 PM »
I just received this sanding block, and the vent is extremely difficult to turn. I was able to turn it with a lot of effort and time but I don't think I'd try it again without gloves. I remember a review mentioning it moved too easily, so I'm wondering if Festool over compensated. Regardless, should I keep it anyway because I won't need to adjust it very often if at all?

Is the vent necessary if you can adjust the suction at the DC?

I haven't used mine in a while so I can't confirm the setting up over time. But Initially I found it was way too loose. Kept accidentally closing it. I ended up taping mine open. I have never wanted it closed at all even with vac suction turned down.

Seth

Offline NiteWalkerGR

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #130 on: July 31, 2022, 03:56 PM »
Re-reviving this thread, I picked up the block and 21.5 mm hose thanks to this thread.
Since I didn't pick it up until a week ago, now the new Systainer3s are out, and we know that they're sized differently.

Not knowing how much spare room was in the SYS-II TLoc, I took a risk and ordered a Sys3 M 137 to see if things would fit.

To my pleasure, they fit like a glove in a Sys3 M - 137.

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If you need more room, the 187 is the next size up, and slightly larger than the old SYS-II TLoc.  It should be more than enough room for the block, hose, and I don't know what else.

Also, I didn't think the non-AS hose would be that big of a deal until I walked over and bumped into the washing machine after sanding.  Yikes!  Still worth it for the ease of use of the setup.
Thanks for this. I just bought the HSK block and the 21.5mm hose for some small drywall patches I need to do around the house and wasn't sure which sys3 would work best. I was between the 137 and 187 but I'm glad to see the 137 fits everything nicely.
And thanks Seth for the review!
« Last Edit: July 31, 2022, 03:58 PM by NiteWalkerGR »

Offline derekcohen

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #131 on: August 02, 2022, 08:04 PM »
I have had the slightly smaller Mirka version of this hand sander for a few years, and use it with Abranet mesh.



Originally, it was used with the 27mm Festool hose, but I found this to be too bulky and heavy. I purchased the 22mm Mirka antistatic hose, and this is night-and-day different .. and so much better. It fits perfectly into my CT 26e vacuum cleaner.



Regards from Perth

Derek

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Offline leakyroof

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Re: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses
« Reply #132 on: August 10, 2022, 12:02 PM »
I have had the slightly smaller Mirka version of this hand sander for a few years, and use it with Abranet mesh.



Originally, it was used with the 27mm Festool hose, but I found this to be too bulky and heavy. I purchased the 22mm Mirka antistatic hose, and this is night-and-day different .. and so much better. It fits perfectly into my CT 26e vacuum cleaner.



Regards from Perth

Derek
Yes, having a skinnier, lighter hose really makes the hand held sanding blocks a delight!
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