Author Topic: HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses (Read 131735 times)

andreasg · « **Reply #90 on:** October 19, 2015, 01:06 PM »

Not sure what I did wrong with my last post, but my comment was "hidden" inside the quote. Here it is:

Anyone tried this lightweight hose for electric sanders? We´re told to turn down suction to halv anyway. Just curiuos, since often the weight of the hose "messes up" the balance of some of the tools. And just got a reminder of this issue since I´m gonna give my ceilings a small "rub" with a sander before painting. Don´t have the 150 ec ets yet, but it´s probably next:) It´s a light one, but up on a chair with 8 feet of hose in the air, that changes a little.

Magpal · « **Reply #91 on:** October 20, 2015, 04:24 AM »

Quote from: neeleman on October 19, 2015, 05:44 AM

Yes the holes will line up with, because they both use the same sandpaper.
But you'll also need the spring load mechanism of the LS130 base plate (490302).
(Attachment Link)

Thanks for the picture! The modification looks plausible, but it may not be worth it price wice compared to just buying the LS130 (okay, it is way more expensive, but at least you then get a proper tool).

SRSemenza · « **Reply #92 on:** October 21, 2015, 12:26 AM »

Quote from: andreasg on October 19, 2015, 01:06 PM

Not sure what I did wrong with my last post, but my comment was "hidden" inside the quote. Here it is:

Anyone tried this lightweight hose for electric sanders? We´re told to turn down suction to halv anyway. Just curiuos, since often the weight of the hose "messes up" the balance of some of the tools. And just got a reminder of this issue since I´m gonna give my ceilings a small "rub" with a sander before painting. Don´t have the 150 ec ets yet, but it´s probably next:) It´s a light one, but up on a chair with 8 feet of hose in the air, that changes a little.

If thinking of using the gray hose ( super light) with power sanders remember that it is not anti-static. Might be an issue / might not.

Seth

leakyroof · « **Reply #93 on:** October 21, 2015, 08:38 PM »

Quote from: SRSemenza on October 21, 2015, 12:26 AM

Quote from: andreasg on October 19, 2015, 01:06 PM
Not sure what I did wrong with my last post, but my comment was "hidden" inside the quote. Here it is:

Anyone tried this lightweight hose for electric sanders? We´re told to turn down suction to halv anyway. Just curiuos, since often the weight of the hose "messes up" the balance of some of the tools. And just got a reminder of this issue since I´m gonna give my ceilings a small "rub" with a sander before painting. Don´t have the 150 ec ets yet, but it´s probably next:) It´s a light one, but up on a chair with 8 feet of hose in the air, that changes a little.

If thinking of using the gray hose ( super light) with power sanders remember that it is not anti-static. Might be an issue / might not.

Seth

. Good point...

PreferrablyWood · « **Reply #94 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:37 PM »

I'm thinking of making my own HSK 93 X 175 using a stick fix pad for the RS 300 EQ, my abrasives are all for this sander and I'm not interested in getting the 80 x130 size. I would make the bulbous top piece out of wood, and the suction section out of some suitable plastic material. The only thing missing would be the valve for controlling airflow.. that wouldn't be hard to rig up..

So I'd just need to buy the Stickfix pad, 21.5mm hose some wood for the "handle" material for the suction section and the valve. It won't be cheaper to make than buying the Festool block but will save me a bundle in abrasives..

mike_aa · « **Reply #95 on:** April 10, 2016, 09:40 PM »

@SRSemenza
Resurrecting this old thread. Based on your earlier review I finally pulled the trigger on the 21.5 hose and the HSK sanding block to go with it. Seth, I was wondering if you are still finding yours useful and if you have any new insights.

Thanks, Mike A.

tjbnwi · « **Reply #96 on:** April 10, 2016, 09:44 PM »

Not Seth---but I love my HSK and 21.5 hose.

Tom

SRSemenza · « **Reply #97 on:** April 11, 2016, 10:11 AM »

Yes, I still use it. In my usage I would call it an occasional tool. But just the right thing for some jobs. Nothing new to add though.

Seth

JimS_1984 · « **Reply #98 on:** April 11, 2016, 09:27 PM »

Used mine today to knock down filler I had put in plywood voids I filled during the machine sanding phase. All tools were put away and I was ready to start priming , and then saw these patches. It was so easy to grab the HSK, with the long flexible hose and take care them. Dust extraction is not perfect, but much better than old school. Hobbyist here. No regrets.

BMAC · « **Reply #99 on:** April 12, 2016, 12:34 AM »

I use mine on flood repair projects and did so today to sand down the drydex (sparkle) filler I used to fill/smooth out new MDF casings mitre joints, after I glued the mitre joints with 2P10 adhesive.

Makes for quick work and minimizes dust contamination to the work area (not 100% and that's okay as flooring has been disposed of)

mike_aa · « **Reply #100 on:** April 12, 2016, 11:57 AM »

Thanks to Seth and all of you who answered my question. I plan on trying it instead of the RTS400 to sand a few small drywall ceiling patches to see how well that works. It looks like I'll be finding lots of other uses for it down the road.

Mike A.

Duck76 · « **Reply #101 on:** April 16, 2016, 12:34 PM »

I grabbed one to sand some drywall touch ups while repainting our bedroom. Kept everything nice and tidy. Even the wife thought it was great!

RKA · « **Reply #102 on:** April 16, 2016, 01:07 PM »

I added the interface pad for blending patches into the surrounding wall. The set up works great for the smaller stuff. Most of the mess is either contained or falls straight down rather than floating across the house. Love the small hose Seth recommended too, very light and flexible with more than enough length to allow me to work my way around a bedroom without having to reposition the extractor.

JimD · « **Reply #103 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:03 PM »

Instead of a smaller hose, I like to use a router speed control on my rigid shop vac when using my little Festool hand sander. Works great. My dust deputy gets most of the dust but the key thing is the dust doesn't go all over.

w802h · « **Reply #104 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:19 PM »

In a pinch a 6 inch disk and a hole punch will cover almost all the bottom. Sometimes there's a grit that I want that's "outside the box"

Magpal · « **Reply #105 on:** April 24, 2016, 02:23 PM »

Quote from: SRSemenza on August 01, 2013, 11:42 AM

Quote from: Guilliaume woodworks on August 01, 2013, 10:03 AM
Seth, great review especially the hose durability test. I'm alittle shocked you haven't made block sander and hose /accessories fit neatly into systainer. What size sys would it all fit into?

Well hey now, look at that. A Sys- II holds the 5m hose perfectly

I may not keep it in a Systainer. I want this to be handy so it will probably be kept hanging near the vac , ready to use.

(Attachment Link)

And the attic compartments will hold the 80 x 130 abrasives just right

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Seth

Do you think it would be possible to use a SYS-I for the hose or would that be way to tight?

JimS_1984 · « **Reply #106 on:** April 26, 2016, 10:20 AM »

SYS-1 will be too tight. I tried putting the 21.5mm hose and HSK-80-130 sanding block in a SYS-1, but had to move up to SYS-2.

Have a picture to illustrate, but the attachment is failing.

JimS_1984 · « **Reply #107 on:** April 26, 2016, 10:27 AM »

Once more...with feeling:

HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses

HSK 80-130 with 21.5mm hose in a SYS-1.

So yes, it's too tight. SYS-2, on the other hand, will hold it comfortably,and is easy to pack-up.

Magpal · « **Reply #108 on:** April 26, 2016, 01:18 PM »

Quote from: JimSpence on April 26, 2016, 10:20 AM

SYS-1 will be too tight. I tried putting the 21.5mm hose and HSK-80-130 sanding block in a SYS-1, but had to move up to SYS-2.

Have a picture to illustrate, but the attachment is failing.

Great, thanks for trying it out @JimSpence !

I will probably go for the SYS-II with lid compartments then.

McNally Family · « **Reply #109 on:** June 19, 2016, 01:05 AM »

Quote from: Magpal on April 26, 2016, 01:18 PM

Quote from: JimSpence on April 26, 2016, 10:20 AM
SYS-1 will be too tight. I tried putting the 21.5mm hose and HSK-80-130 sanding block in a SYS-1, but had to move up to SYS-2.

Have a picture to illustrate, but the attachment is failing.
Great, thanks for trying it out @JimSpence ! I will probably go for the SYS-II with lid compartments then.

I ended up putting my 21.5mm hose, and both my 80mm-130mm and 115mm-226mm hand sanding blocks into my empty SYS-3, that my 3.5m sleeved hose came in. Still room for a small supply of abrasives as well.

Thank you Seth for starting this incredibly helpful thread on the Festool hand sanding system. As of today, this thread has 42,249 views, and counting!

nycwoodworker · « **Reply #110 on:** January 04, 2018, 11:03 PM »

Reviving this old thread as it's incredibly useful for what I'm looking at! The main reason I'm looking to use this is to keep dust from sanding between Primer/Paint coats (SW KA+).

For those who used it, I have a couple questions

1) Do you think that I'll still need to go over this with a microfiber cloth if I use the vaccum attached hand sander or would that be enough?
2) Would the suction, turned all way down on Midi and port open on this cause too much suction for a sanding between paint coats?
3) Is this as helpful on normal woodworking projects or mostly other uses?

Thanks everyone!!!

SRSemenza · « **Reply #111 on:** January 04, 2018, 11:29 PM »

Quote from: jkanter on January 04, 2018, 11:03 PM

Reviving this old thread as it's incredibly useful for what I'm looking at! The main reason I'm looking to use this is to keep dust from sanding between Primer/Paint coats (SW KA+).

For those who used it, I have a couple questions

1) Do you think that I'll still need to go over this with a microfiber cloth if I use the vaccum attached hand sander or would that be enough?
2) Would the suction, turned all way down on Midi and port open on this cause too much suction for a sanding between paint coats?
3) Is this as helpful on normal woodworking projects or mostly other uses?

Thanks everyone!!!

I don't know specifically on that paint. But the suction as you describe should be fine. I do think you will still need to vacuum or otherwise go over the piece again to be sure you get as much dust as possible off the surface.

Seth

McNally Family · « **Reply #112 on:** January 04, 2018, 11:38 PM »

Quote from: jkanter on January 04, 2018, 11:03 PM

Reviving this old thread as it's incredibly useful for what I'm looking at! The main reason I'm looking to use this is to keep dust from sanding between Primer/Paint coats (SW KA+).

For those who used it, I have a couple questions

1) Do you think that I'll still need to go over this with a microfiber cloth if I use the vaccum attached hand sander or would that be enough?
2) Would the suction, turned all way down on Midi and port open on this cause too much suction for a sanding between paint coats?
3) Is this as helpful on normal woodworking projects or mostly other uses?

Thanks everyone!!!

After using the hand sanding blocks, I go over the sanded piece with this:

https://festools-online.com/498527-festool-nozzle-universal-brush-ct.html

I also think it could not hurt to use your microfiber cloth just to make sure you get all the dust.

rst · « **Reply #113 on:** January 05, 2018, 07:21 AM »

I use the vac sanding block, brush and then always use a tack cloth.

CBRacerX · « **Reply #114 on:** June 23, 2018, 08:22 PM »

Thanks for this useful thread. I just got two HSK blocks and ordered the light and easy hose. Let the occasional drywall sanding begin!

Kodi Crescent · « **Reply #115 on:** June 25, 2018, 09:48 AM »

I use this exclusively for drywall; it's indispensable for sanding drywall. When I speak to others about drywall repair, I forget how much I take these tools for granted.

Moneta007 · « **Reply #116 on:** May 30, 2020, 02:25 PM »

Hello,

I am planning on getting the HSK 80 x 130 with the D21.5 hose to sand multicoats of water soluble varnish with grits from 240 to 600. Festool only sells the abrasives in packets of 50 which is far too many. Has anyone used the Mirka Abranet 80 x 130 abrasives with the Festool hand sand block? Which abrasives are preferable?

leakyroof · « **Reply #117 on:** June 03, 2020, 12:51 PM »

Quote from: Moneta007 on May 30, 2020, 02:25 PM

Hello,

I am planning on getting the HSK 80 x 130 with the D21.5 hose to sand multicoats of water soluble varnish with grits from 240 to 600. Festool only sells the abrasives in packets of 50 which is far too many. Has anyone used the Mirka Abranet 80 x 130 abrasives with the Festool hand sand block? Which abrasives are preferable?

Yes, before I could buy the Festool Sanding Blocks, Mirka had theirs for sale here in the US, so as long as the size is right for Velcro Abrasives between the two brands, it all works. I've used the net type/mesh type abrasives from both Mirka and Festool for 'between coat' sanding on Film Finishes. I typically don't go above 320 grit so the next coat has something to 'key into' versus being too smooth from sanding to adhere easily.
Both Regular and Heavy Duty work fine for that type application, it would come down more to what price you want to spend and how large of a box you want to work with. As an aside, some Festool dealers are willing to break down a full box of abrasives to a certain number, say like a 10 pack, for Customers- Ask, you won't know until you try...

squall_line · « **Reply #118 on:** February 26, 2021, 06:04 PM »

Re-reviving this thread, I picked up the block and 21.5 mm hose thanks to this thread.
Since I didn't pick it up until a week ago, now the new Systainer³s are out, and we know that they're sized differently.

Not knowing how much spare room was in the SYS-II TLoc, I took a risk and ordered a Sys3 M 137 to see if things would fit.

To my pleasure, they fit like a glove in a Sys³ M - 137.

If you need more room, the 187 is the next size up, and slightly larger than the old SYS-II TLoc. It should be more than enough room for the block, hose, and I don't know what else.

Also, I didn't think the non-AS hose would be that big of a deal until I walked over and bumped into the washing machine after sanding. Yikes! Still worth it for the ease of use of the setup.

woodferret · « **Reply #119 on:** February 26, 2021, 06:22 PM »

Thanks for the SYS3 update. I've gotta find a home for mine too.