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New product CT wings - Video
« on: July 21, 2014, 10:13 AM »
Hi Everyone

Festool UK approached me a little while ago and asked me to take a look at a brand new product that attaches to an extractor and then clamps against a vertical surface - the result is a "3rd hand" to help when installing all sorts.

It is called CT Wings and has a page on the Festool Germany web site although the actual gadget is not shown in any picture (yet). It should be available in September but I know nothing about the NA market. UK price is less than £30 - I know no other pricing detail.

I had great fun making the video - I started off thinking it was a gimmick but by the end really respected the simplicity of the concept, the utility and the great price.



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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 10:20 AM »
Nice video, Peter.

Great for hanging crown and many other uses.

Let me preemptively say, no ETA or pricing currently for NA. But, hopefully in the near future we'll see them.

Edit: You cannot hook these in series. Only one per CT. Using the Y-adapter will not work either. Works with the 27 and 36mm hoses.

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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 10:44 AM »
Excellent video, Peter!

I just watched it while on the phone with Roadrunner Freight, going in and out of being on hold. I had the sound off as a result and I'd buy it from just your visuals.

As usual, well done...


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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 11:36 AM »
Great video Peter.  Now thst is a great accessory.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 11:51 AM »
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Great video on a cool useful product

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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 02:16 PM »
Think I'll have to get me one of those!

Won't come in for a lot of stuff, but when it does it would save a lot of messing about!
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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 02:21 PM »
Just to add a little to Peter's video...

There are, as I recall, about 10 of the rubber-like fingers that rotate a full 360 degrees. You can use as many or as few as needed to hold the object in place. I think the max capacity was about 50mm, or ~2".

Oh, and there are center lines on top, bottom and sides for aligning it with a laser level on the wall.

The base on it does have a gasket already, but not as thick as the one Peter used to supplement it.
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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 02:40 PM »
Just to add a little to Peter's video...

There are, as I recall, about 10 of the rubber-like fingers that rotate a full 360 degrees. You can use as many or as few as needed to hold the object in place. I think the max capacity was about 50mm, or ~2".

Oh, and there are center lines on top, bottom and sides for aligning it with a laser level on the wall.

The base on it does have a gasket already, but not as thick as the one Peter used to supplement it.

Thanks for the extra info Shane. That gasket that I made came from an old sleeping mat - it is probably not rubber but some sort of poly this or that. I did it to prove the point that improvisation can be a good thing - even with Festool kit.

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 03:25 PM »
Very Cool!  Can't wait to see them in NA.
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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 03:37 PM »
Interesting - I can't see the video at all. Using Safari 7.0.3 on Mac OS 10.9.3. I have other machines and configurations that I will check later.

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2014, 03:49 PM »
Just watched the video in Chrome.

I want one!
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2014, 06:06 PM »
Great video.  Just watched it on my iPad

I hope the wing doesn't require UL approval  [smile]

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2014, 08:47 PM »
Very cool product! I can see where this would be very handy for hanging crown. Great video Peter, I look forward to seeing this in NA someday!
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2014, 10:02 PM »
Looking forward to this as well. Hopefully it'll get approved for use in NA. ;)
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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2014, 10:05 PM »
Nice video, Peter.

Great for hanging crown and many other uses.

Let me preemptively say, no ETA or pricing currently for NA. But, hopefully in the near future we'll see them.

Edit: You cannot hook these in series. Only one per CT. Using the Y-adapter will not work either. Works with the 27 and 36mm hoses.

Shane

Can't wait to grab one or two.

It looked like the 36mm hose would block the valve release, good to know it'll work with it.

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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2014, 10:45 PM »
The 36mm hose will block the release valve, but I also did nog find a need to use the valve. Just pull it off the surface.

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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2014, 06:31 AM »
The 36mm hose will block the release valve, but I also did nog find a need to use the valve. Just pull it off the surface.

I suspect that the only time one needs to use the release valve is if the CT Wings are attached to a delicate surface - tiles and thin glass come to mind.

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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2014, 07:48 AM »
Thanks for the video Peter ... that little accessory is going to sell a lot of extra CT's [big grin]

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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2014, 11:47 AM »
That looks pretty handy. 

Perhaps we need CT Micros to power them?

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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2014, 12:11 PM »
I think Kev may be right - time will tell.

For Seth, many other people have said that they wished Festool made a battery powered vacuum for last minute clean-ups (not to power with CT Wings).

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Re: New product CT wings
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2014, 12:56 PM »
Shane or Peter, can anyone tell me what's the diameter on the suction opening ( the when that sucks on the wall/material not the hose inlet)

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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2014, 01:19 PM »
Shane or Peter, can anyone tell me what's the diameter on the suction opening ( the when that sucks on the wall/material not the hose inlet)

I am in the house but I would guess that it about 60 x 100 mm - why do you ask?

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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2014, 03:18 PM »
Shane or Peter, can anyone tell me what's the diameter on the suction opening ( the when that sucks on the wall/material not the hose inlet)

I am in the house but I would guess that it about 60 x 100 mm - why do you ask?

Peter

Thank you ( bought a couple of ur dogs, great stuff), I was just thinking of some other uses for it, but it might be a silly idea but I'll mention it any ways, I haven't really thought it through, but I have two ct's and sometimes get a wiggle when cutting with the mft/3 and the ts saw on smaller pieces, I stabilize the rail by putting an equal thickness piece behind the piece I'm cutting but sometimes I still get a slight movement of the piece as I'm passing the saw over it, I was just wondering if ct wings could be used to suction down a piece from the bottom of the mft through one of the dog holes. Again it's just an idea.. I haven't really thought out the process or even if it's worth doing all that.

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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2014, 03:48 PM »
Shane or Peter, can anyone tell me what's the diameter on the suction opening ( the when that sucks on the wall/material not the hose inlet)

I am in the house but I would guess that it about 60 x 100 mm - why do you ask?

Peter

Thank you ( bought a couple of ur dogs, great stuff), I was just thinking of some other uses for it, but it might be a silly idea but I'll mention it any ways, I haven't really thought it through, but I have two ct's and sometimes get a wiggle when cutting with the mft/3 and the ts saw on smaller pieces, I stabilize the rail by putting an equal thickness piece behind the piece I'm cutting but sometimes I still get a slight movement of the piece as I'm passing the saw over it, I was just wondering if ct wings could be used to suction down a piece from the bottom of the mft through one of the dog holes. Again it's just an idea.. I haven't really thought out the process or even if it's worth doing all that.

What an interesting idea. I too have had some ideas but, like you, need some time to do some tests and calculations. I am severely stuck at the moment as I had cleared my pedestal desk out of the workshop to do the CT Wings, brought it back in today expecting to finish it this evening and then disaster - no friend to help with the leather top. Until the top is done I cannot do any other work in the workshop as I do not want to risk moving the desk again.

Let us know you ideas when they mature a bit.

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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2014, 04:38 PM »
Peter, nice video looks like a usefull bit of kit!

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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2014, 10:01 PM »
Peter, nice video looks like a usefull bit of kit!

Whats the remote control vac start your using?

Not sure about the one Peter has in his video but I have looked at this one.  I like it a lot mainly because there isn't anything for me to lose.  I like that you can get 4 different channels to run different scenarios but I would just need one for my CT.  It isn't really rated high enough for plugging a tool into the CT, but for vacuuming and vac assist (like the CT Wings) it is probably fine.

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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2014, 12:43 AM »
Peter, nice video looks like a usefull bit of kit!

Whats the remote control vac start your using?

Hi Jim

I have had the one shown in the video for about 15 years and it works up to the full 13 amps, has 4 switch units, which can be on separate channels and with just one remote control.

I bought a second (different make) set about 9 years ago but the remote packed up after 5 years.

Neither are available any more - I looked for something similar a year ago. I then went into a branch of Maplin and they had several different ones and I bought the cheapest - a set of 3 switch units, again with a single remote control and working up to 13 amps or about £14.

You could just Google remote control switching or something like that. They will all take the full 13 amps unless otherwise stated.

I use them in the workshop for my two (non Festool) extractors but in the video it was a CTL26 being used. In the house they are great for all sorts - they are especially useful for turning the Christmas lights on and off.

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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2014, 02:13 AM »
Thanks Peter, will lookinto it. Was thinking for the router table as i dont have a switch apart from plugging it in.
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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2014, 05:29 AM »
Another great video Peter.
I have to build a new deck next year and this would seem more reliable than my wife to hold up one end of a ledger board or beam:)
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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2014, 06:23 AM »
Another great video Peter.
I have to build a new deck next year and this would seem more reliable than my wife to hold up one end of a ledger board or beam:)

Hi Ranny,

I think that it is going to prove to be a really useful bit of kit and certainly worth having with you on a job site. Of course the user must make sure that the CT Wings are securely in place and able to hold the load before working under that supported load.

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« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2014, 08:28 AM »
Another great video Peter.
I have to build a new deck next year and this would seem more reliable than my wife to hold up one end of a ledger board or beam:)

I am not sure that it would be best suited for this.  at 5 kg that Peter tested, you could probably only get a very short ledger... if it is from a big box store, probably even shorter as they are always soaking wet! 

I had to hang a bunch of 2*12*16s last summer and I just made some 2*6 jack studs to temporarily hold the board.  But yeah, ditch the wife idea...  [wink]

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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2014, 01:33 PM »
I discovered another use for them yesterday - attaching to the underside of wall cabinets to support light pelmet whilst fixing. Shame I didn't have one!
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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2014, 01:51 PM »

Hi Ranny,

I think that it is going to prove to be a really useful bit of kit and certainly worth having with you on a job site. Of course the user must make sure that the CT Wings are securely in place and able to hold the load before working under that supported load.

Peter

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« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2014, 08:18 AM »
It looks like Festool UK have a teaser video for the CT Wings - don't try this at home children, Mummy won't like it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiLORmw334E&feature=youtu.be

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« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2014, 08:28 AM »
Looks interesting but doesn't tell you too much.

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« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2014, 08:33 AM »
Looks like this was just posted in another thread.  If you are looking for information check out this thread:  http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-reviews/festool-ct-wings-a-brand-new-product-video/msg329735/?topicseen#msg329735

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« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2014, 10:43 PM »
What is the long term effect on the extractor motor if this is used?  Seems like the motor could heat up quite a bit since the normal airflow is being restricted, thus shortening life?

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« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2014, 11:08 PM »
What is the long term effect on the extractor motor if this is used?  Seems like the motor could heat up quite a bit since the normal airflow is being restricted, thus shortening life?

I am sure that the motor will be up to it otherwise Festool would be facing all sorts of risks from CT Wings users. It is interesting that putting the CT Wings on the hose and using it produces a fairly normal sound from my CT26. However, if I block the hose with my hand then it really does strain. I am sure that there is sufficient allowance for air to get through when the wings are in use to keep the CT working within its comfort zone.

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« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2014, 08:01 AM »
What is the long term effect on the extractor motor if this is used?  Seems like the motor could heat up quite a bit since the normal airflow is being restricted, thus shortening life?

I am sure that the motor will be up to it otherwise Festool would be facing all sorts of risks from CT Wings users. It is interesting that putting the CT Wings on the hose and using it produces a fairly normal sound from my CT26. However, if I block the hose with my hand then it really does strain. I am sure that there is sufficient allowance for air to get through when the wings are in use to keep the CT working within its comfort zone.

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Actually when you put your hand over the hose you aren't straining the motor, it's the opposite. Blocking the air flow removes a significant amount of resistance allowing the motor to run with much less strain, that's why it runs so much faster that way.   
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« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2014, 05:38 PM »
Peter,
Great video.  Very useful as usual.  Thanks for taking the time to do the video and for sharing here on FOG.  When the CT Wings come to NA I'll get one.  Not sure how much I would use it but seems like it would be handy those times it's needed.

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« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2014, 01:17 AM »
Peter,
Great video.  Very useful as usual.  Thanks for taking the time to do the video and for sharing here on FOG.  When the CT Wings come to NA I'll get one.  Not sure how much I would use it but seems like it would be handy those times it's needed.

I think that you have it exactly - at the price it will be a must for the kit bag as you will never know when you might need it.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2014, 11:31 AM »
Just a little more CT Wing tool porn. Gary Katz added an article to his blog, This is Carpentry, today showing off the CT Wings along with a video.

http://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2014/08/08/festool-ct-wings/


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« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2014, 01:04 PM »
Looks like they are available after September 1 at least in Germany according to German Festool site.

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« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2014, 01:05 PM »
Looks like they are available after September 1 at least in Germany according to German Festool site.

Yes, Europe gets them on 9/1. Us... well, we'll see. My guess, 3-6 months.

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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2014, 01:36 PM »
Looks like they are available after September 1 at least in Germany according to German Festool site.

Yes, Europe gets them on 9/1. Us... well, we'll see. My guess, 3-6 months.

I don't know what the official view might be but they are not especially heavy and could be mailed from Europe to NA very easily.

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« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2014, 01:38 PM »
The official view is that we do not want dealers shipping outside of their own country. Of course, what customers do is up to them.

I guess I could say the European version are not compatible with 110v CTs.  [huh]

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« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2014, 01:52 PM »
The official view is that we do not want dealers shipping outside of their own country. Of course, what customers do is up to them.

I guess I could say the European version are not compatible with 110v CTs.  [huh]

Then how would they work on UK jobsites?

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2014, 07:17 AM »
Hello everybody,

A possible use of this tool : be able to put a small level laser as this there :


 
Photos and details available on my blog : http://www.travaillerlebois.com/buse-serrage-vide-festool-ct-wings

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2014, 08:58 AM »
Is this already available, Alex, or did you get sent one for testing?
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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2014, 09:09 AM »
No, available only from 01/09.

For test, indeed.   [cool]

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2014, 10:02 AM »
No, available only from 01/09.


For those of us who are 'Metric Impaired' - AlexDSL is saying that they are available beginning 9/1/2014.

But, alas, NAINA...
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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2014, 11:19 AM »
Looks kinda dangerous .....we will need UL approval here in US...

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2014, 11:48 AM »
No, available only from 01/09.


For those of us who are 'Metric Impaired' - AlexDSL is saying that they are available beginning 9/1/2014.

But, alas, NAINA...

I know that Festool will have concentrated on the metric market for the first production run but it will not take them long to develop an imperial version of the CT Wings.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2014, 11:50 AM »
We will have these in the US, just not sure when yet. My guess would be in the next 3-6 months.

When using with a laser level, there are marks on the sides of the CT Wings for alignment. So, you can get it right on your laser line. There's also a plumb line.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2014, 12:22 PM »
When using with a laser level, there are marks on the sides of the CT Wings for alignment. So, you can get it right on your laser line. There's also a plumb line.
Hello Shane,

Sorry but I do not see how the marks on sides of the CT WINGS can help in the alignment of a level level.

For me, these marks (among 4) allow only to center the small eyelet which serves, actually, for the alignment of a plumb line (when the CT WINGS is maintained in the ceiling.).



On the photo below, we can see 2 of 4 marks.



Alex
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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2014, 12:31 PM »
You would align the mark on the side of the CT Wings with your laser line and turn the "fingers" to align with it as well.



Like this, basically...


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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2014, 12:52 PM »
You would align the mark on the side of the CT Wings with your laser line and turn the "fingers" to align with it as well.

(Attachment Link)

Like this, basically...

Shane,

I might be missing something in this  basic "alignment", however, when I look at your first photo showing the red arrow pointing towards the line on the wing, and you saying line this up with your laser line, if you look closely at that photo you will see the wing "rest" and alignment mark are not at the same level.  Thus, if you line the line on the wing with you laser, the level used will actually be sitting above line mark by what appears to be 1/2-3/4".   

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2014, 12:56 PM »
I only have a handful of images and I don't have one of these with me. So, I had to use the images I had to demonstrate the concept.

Even if you use it like it's shown in the second image, the marks are at 180 degrees from each other. If the fingers are turned to that center mark, they are at 90 degrees.

Furthermore, you could align the portion attached to the wall to your laser line, as shown in that second image and ignore the center marks entirely.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #61 on: August 10, 2014, 01:03 PM »
Here is about what we speak.
The red arrows represent marks on the CT WINGS (only on the sole).



Sorry, Shane, but I do not still understand.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2014, 03:24 AM »
Love the look of this. I am going to buy on of these when they come out.

I wonder if you could use it to catch dust when drilling into a wall in some way? Peter's bit of foam for the brick test could maybe cut like a wedge with a gap along the top maybe. Just thinking out loud!  [wink]

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2014, 05:36 AM »
I wonder if you could use it to catch dust when drilling into a wall in some way?

Jimmy, that's what this is for!
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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2014, 10:01 AM »
I wonder if you could use it to catch dust when drilling into a wall in some way?

Jimmy, that's what this is for!

Ha, well that solves that then. I have never seen that attachment before!



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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #65 on: August 20, 2014, 11:12 AM »
Ha, well that solves that then. I have never seen that attachment before!

Get one, they're great! AND they're cheap too (for Festool!).
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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2014, 03:05 AM »
A new utility of CT WINGS...









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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2014, 08:48 AM »
I wonder if you use a splitter and two ct wings if the suction would still be strong enough to hold stuff at a wall?

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2014, 09:48 AM »
I already read that it is designed to be "1 per CT"

Makes sense to me...
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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2014, 10:13 AM »
I wonder if you use a splitter and two ct wings if the suction would still be strong enough to hold stuff at a wall?

Pretty sure I addressed that earlier in the thread. I tested it with the splitter and it's not a great solution. I would highly recommend not using a splitter.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2014, 10:17 AM »
I already read that it is designed to be "1 per CT"

Makes sense to me...

    I think the problem with using more than one is that as long as one set is "open" the other set won't suction to the surface because the airflow has another open path. If two sets cold be positioned at the same time then it might work.  Just like when doing regular vacuuming and the nozzle sucks itself tight to something like a carpet. Open the outlet slider on the handle and it comes free because the air has another route to take.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2014, 11:01 AM »
The only way for us is (to buy and) to use two vacuum cleaners !   ;D

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2014, 12:23 PM »
I really could have done with one of these just now as I was struggling to put up a pair of 12 feet long curtain rods.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2014, 06:38 PM »
Hello Peter,

Thank you for the fun and informative review video of the wings. I liked it so much I of course went and bought one. It is so much fun to use. I love it. I have always been fasinated by Vacume cleaners from an early age,  especialy the blow part. I have hence been designing and building inflaterble sculptures the last 30 years.
I really like the dust collecting attacment as well. A god send when drilling over head.
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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2014, 09:15 PM »
I already read that it is designed to be "1 per CT"

Makes sense to me...

Suction wise you can use as many as you want provided that you block the built in bleeding of all but one ct wing.  They actually should have designed a bleeder tee or single bleeder fitting rather then each ct wing bleeding such a large amount of air.  I know it's to protect the vac motor but you have to at some point let people be responsible for the actions when hooking things up.  There are slots on the ct wings and tabs in the bottom to keep it from bottoming out allowing a large air flow.  A little bit of silicone would seal it up.   So you can use whatever you want, say 5 and seal 4 up and keep one open and it will work fine.  You should just keep the air flow required to keep the vac cool.  If you break it, pay to fix it rather than claim warranty repair.  Those make your own things are ok as long as you don't cause the motor to burn up from poor air flow.   

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2014, 08:48 AM »
Does anyone know if these work with any drill Festool 500483 D 27-BSD Drilling Dust Nozzle For BHC 18, even non-Festool. Thanks Geoff

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2014, 09:37 AM »
Does anyone know if these work with any drill Festool 500483 D 27-BSD Drilling Dust Nozzle For BHC 18, even non-Festool. Thanks Geoff

Not sure what you are getting at Giff. The CT Wings gets attached by suction to a wall in order to support something (like a spirit level) whereas the Drilling Dust Nozzle can hold its own weight, and that of the hose, whilst dust from the drilling goes to the extractor. I am pretty sure that one extractor could not support both devices at the same time.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2014, 10:07 AM »
Hi Peter
Sorry for the confusion.I bought a Festool wing after seeing your video and it seems excellent….on of many festool tools I have purchased after seeing your videos…and your Kindle book ! I was enquiring about the separate dust nozzle that was mentioned on this post as to whether or not it can be used with any make of drill, still with the Festool extractor, but not at the same time as the wing ! ;) Thanks Geoff

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« Reply #78 on: October 31, 2014, 10:51 AM »
Hi Peter
Sorry for the confusion.I bought a Festool wing after seeing your video and it seems excellent….on of many festool tools I have purchased after seeing your videos…and your Kindle book ! I was enquiring about the separate dust nozzle that was mentioned on this post as to whether or not it can be used with any make of drill, still with the Festool extractor, but not at the same time as the wing ! ;) Thanks Geoff

Hi Geoff,

Got it.

Yes, you can use it with any drill as long as in your heart you know that one day you will replace them all with Festool drills !

Many thanks for your support.

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Re: New product CT wings - Video
« Reply #79 on: October 31, 2014, 01:05 PM »
Definitley will…the ones I use now are the wrong colour for start.. [laughing]