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Offline woodguy7

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2011, 05:07 PM »
Hmm, bit of wobble there JMB ?  You can see it on slow speed.  Is that the T15 ?

I'm gona have to check all 4 of my Festool drills tomorrow now  [blink]
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2011, 05:08 PM »
Thanks mac thought so, yeh its a pain but im loving the drill, also sorry to hijack the thread mate should have started my own one.


Nah, don't worry about it...it just makes me look more popular  [thanks]

haahaa! Well keeps your thread at the top though! Gets your viewing numbers up lol!


I might just post a few blank message on my threads get it to the top lol just so that people look and then go okay ders nothing new to look at haahaha!
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Offline Dan1210

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2011, 05:11 PM »
jmb, mine is just like yours mate, the thing is if you buy the centrotec wood drill bits they are going spin off centre too, i might be missing the point but isnt this the benefit of a festool drill? my panasonics dont do this. not at least to this extent.
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Offline Deansocial

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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2011, 05:19 PM »
jmb, mine is just like yours mate, the thing is if you buy the centrotec wood drill bits they are going spin off centre too, i might be missing the point but isnt this the benefit of a festool drill? my panasonics dont do this. not at least to this extent.

i would have thought the centrotec bits to wobble less, i thought that was part of the reason to have them. Never been a problem mind you.

Them panasonics are really nice drills aren't they, i used 1 while my t15 was being repairsed and really liked it. They also make hilti's cordless drills

Offline Guy Ashley

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2011, 05:22 PM »
jmb, mine is just like yours mate, the thing is if you buy the centrotec wood drill bits they are going spin off centre too, i might be missing the point but isnt this the benefit of a festool drill? my panasonics dont do this. not at least to this extent.

Dan, I have just tried my CXS with the centrotec wood bits and its clean and true no problems at all.
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2011, 05:23 PM »
Hmm, bit of wobble there JMB ?  You can see it on slow speed.  Is that the T15 ?

I'm gona have to check all 4 of my Festool drills tomorrow now  [blink]

Yes its the T15  one of the First T15 in the UK so my LOCAL dealer said who I dont deal with any more! Rexy is my man now lol! Well as soon as it was available at my dealers I got it!

Yes it has a wobble thats y I posted it to show Dan where he stands with his cus they arnt perfect in the first place any way but if his is causing his tip of his bit to wobble ALOT then thats not good but if you look closely at mine that wobbles slightly but at full speed it all kinda straightens out you cant see any wobble only at slow speed.

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Offline Alex

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« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2011, 05:26 PM »
although something that's bothering me is, the hex shaft seems to rotate in a slightly eccentric motion and is amplified with a bit holder in causing say 1-2mm to rotate off centre,

Dan, my T15 also does it and I think it is inherent to the Centrotec system. I was a bit bothered by it too the first time I noticed this on my brand new drill, but it turned out it's of no consequence. You see, the shaft of a Centrotec drill bit is not exactly the same size as that of a hex bit. It's a tiny bit smaller. So when you put this in the shaft of the drill, it has a minute wobble, which gets amplified more the longer the bit is. But when you actually drill a hole or drive a screw this minute bit of play doesn't matter anymore because the tip of the bit is now fixated by the workpiece.
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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2011, 05:26 PM »

I'm gona have to check all 4 of my Festool drills tomorrow now  [blink]

Stealth gloat. You're a pro, dude...  [not worthy]

Offline jmbfestool

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« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2011, 05:28 PM »
jmb, mine is just like yours mate, the thing is if you buy the centrotec wood drill bits they are going spin off centre too, i might be missing the point but isnt this the benefit of a festool drill? my panasonics dont do this. not at least to this extent.


Well like Dean said never really been a problem its always been like that on mine!  This is my second T15 and the other was just the same. Once the bit spins at full speed it runs true so for wood bits not had any problems.   Well I dont know if your is like mine if you was to send it back you might just get one with the same ''problem''

I dont have another festool drill which I could check!   You want video evidence not peoples word lol!  [smile]

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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2011, 05:29 PM »

I'm gona have to check all 4 of my Festool drills tomorrow now  [blink]

Stealth gloat. You're a pro, dude...  [not worthy]

I was just about to comment on that!    He had to put 4 festool drills lol!  Not ill just check on my other drills!  Had to be 4! lol

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Offline Mac

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2011, 05:32 PM »

I'm gona have to check all 4 of my Festool drills tomorrow now  [blink]

Stealth gloat. You're a pro, dude...  [not worthy]

I was just about to comment on that!    He had to put 4 festool drills lol!  Not ill just check on my other drills!  Had to be 4! lol

JMB

I think he's trying to compensate for something, JMB, what do you think?

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2011, 05:34 PM »

I'm gona have to check all 4 of my Festool drills tomorrow now  [blink]

Stealth gloat. You're a pro, dude...  [not worthy]

I was just about to comment on that!    He had to put 4 festool drills lol!  Not ill just check on my other drills!  Had to be 4! lol

JMB

I think he's trying to compensate for something, JMB, what do you think?

I think I gotta agree with you der!


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Offline Dan1210

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2011, 05:41 PM »
Hmm maybe im just being too fussy then, although i understand what alex was saying, if you take the bits out of the drill and look into the shaft and pull the trigger you can see the back of the shaft turning in an eccentric motion, ill ask the dealer to check another one they may be all the same.
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Offline Dan1210

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2011, 06:19 PM »
Ha ha yeh sort off but the problem for me starts at the shaft coming from the motor it transfers the motion to every chuck even the right angle chuck causing the tip of the bit to wobble whilst rotating, im sure its fine when the bit is in contact but it bugs me, ill try rex in the morning see what they say.
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Offline jmbfestool

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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2011, 06:41 PM »
Hey!  Have you made a new video????  

Cus I didnt see the second part before when your remove the centrotec and just place the bit in on its own!  

That looks wobbly on its own im just going to check mine cus I dont think thats right!

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Offline GhostFist

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« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2011, 07:49 PM »
This bit wobble is putting me off to be honest. I'm looking at getting this little guy and a big brother once the new models are out but I don't want to be paying a premium for something that's not running like it claims. A true straight chuck is going to make for cleaner holes and less can out on delicate screws. That's the whole idea behind centrotec as I understood it.

Offline MAK

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« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2011, 02:43 PM »
This bit wobble is putting me off to be honest. I'm looking at getting this little guy and a big brother once the new models are out but I don't want to be paying a premium for something that's not running like it claims. A true straight chuck is going to make for cleaner holes and less can out on delicate screws. That's the whole idea behind centrotec as I understood it.


Hi I'm new to FOG but have been a festool guy for few years.
I've had a CXS now for a month or so and think it's a great little drill, does alot more than you think for such a lightweight. It's excellent for kitchen fitting. Also got a c15 2 weeks ago and wow very impressed. A bit disappointted though I got a flyer from festool saying they uprading to 3ah batterries and charge indicator.
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Offline woodguy7

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2011, 03:15 PM »
Welcome Mak, hope you don't give me as much a hard time as the other Mac (you listening  [tongue])

I never heard about the 3ah batteries but that don't concern me as i find the C15 more than enough power as it is.  What do you mean about charge indicator ?  Is it going to be the lights on the battery ?

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Offline MAK

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« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2011, 03:55 PM »
Welcome Mak, hope you don't give me as much a hard time as the other Mac (you listening  [tongue])

I never heard about the 3ah batteries but that don't concern me as i find the C15 more than enough power as it is.  What do you mean about charge indicator ?  Is it going to be the lights on the battery ?

Cheers, Woodguy.

No the lights are on the actual drill and they tell you how much pwer is left in the battery.

I don't give anyone a hard time, except my useless labourer, who by the way forced a normal hex flat bit into my concentric chuck [mad] [crying]
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Offline Dan1210

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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2011, 04:04 PM »
just to say i rang festool technical today and one of the engineers had a cxs in his hand at the time we were on the phone, he said he thought the eccentric motion mine has seems to be on all festool drills due to tolerances for fitting attachments, he said if i were to send it back chances are they would find no fault, im not so sure but im gonna have to take his word for it as from jmbs video his seems to be the same.

all in all a great little tool put some time in with it today and i really like it, ill be trying it on a kitchen install tmrw and will be able to really test it.
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2011, 02:54 AM »
Welcome Mak, hope you don't give me as much a hard time as the other Mac (you listening  [tongue])

I never heard about the 3ah batteries but that don't concern me as i find the C15 more than enough power as it is.  What do you mean about charge indicator ?  Is it going to be the lights on the battery ?

Cheers, Woodguy.

Yeah wood guy

The new festool batteries are going to have battery indicators so you know how much charge is left in the battery like the milwuakee batteries!   It's what Im waiting for!

I thought it was commen knowledge  [tongue]

Well I thought you would of known about it any anyway!  The indicator is on the back of the batterie!

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Offline woodguy7

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« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2011, 08:45 AM »
The rep i have just now is very good but not familliar with Festool at all.  The last guy used to keep me up to date with all thing Festool.  I am dependant on you guys to keep me up to speed now  [smile]
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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2011, 11:45 AM »
got mine yesterday, after the buyer of my bosch sander had noticed my little bosch 10.8v driver and angle driver, he asked for a price for the lot. so suddenly i was without a small driver!
so with that money and a little more i got the CXS, it was the only one in the store and the angle chuck was stolen!
they will call me when it gets in.

anyway i like the "little" bugger, same voltage as my Bosch, but it can handle bigger screws and also drill aswell!

i noticed the bit wobble aswell, if you hold the bit against your hand and let it turn, the drill will wobble alot. though during actual drilling/driving i didn't notice any.

but has anyone else noticed a bad smell of warm motor oil coming from it when it runs? really smells bad
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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2011, 11:48 AM »
got mine yesterday, after the buyer of my bosch sander had noticed my little bosch 10.8v driver and angle driver, he asked for a price for the lot. so suddenly i was without a small driver!
so with that money and a little more i got the CXS, it was the only one in the store and the angle chuck was stolen!
they will call me when it gets in.

anyway i like the "little" bugger, same voltage as my Bosch, but it can handle bigger screws and also drill aswell!

i noticed the bit wobble aswell, if you hold the bit against your hand and let it turn, the drill will wobble alot. though during actual drilling/driving i didn't notice any.

but has anyone else noticed a bad smell of warm motor oil coming from it when it runs? really smells bad

I love festool but not that much that I go round smelling all my tools  [tongue] [poke]

Well I never smelt anything when I had a Demo one in my hand and played around with it but all I did was drill air didnt drive a screw in with it so might be different.

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Offline Deansocial

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2011, 03:41 PM »
got mine yesterday, after the buyer of my bosch sander had noticed my little bosch 10.8v driver and angle driver, he asked for a price for the lot. so suddenly i was without a small driver!
so with that money and a little more i got the CXS, it was the only one in the store and the angle chuck was stolen!
they will call me when it gets in.

anyway i like the "little" bugger, same voltage as my Bosch, but it can handle bigger screws and also drill aswell!

i noticed the bit wobble aswell, if you hold the bit against your hand and let it turn, the drill will wobble alot. though during actual drilling/driving i didn't notice any.

but has anyone else noticed a bad smell of warm motor oil coming from it when it runs? really smells bad

my t15 had a horrible oil smell after repair but it has gone away with use

Offline meatman

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2011, 03:31 PM »
Jmb What have you been using that CXS for, "stiring plaster" it looks like you have given it a hard time?
Dan did you manage to ge your CXS changed?

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Offline Dan1210

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2011, 03:45 PM »
Hey meatman, no i kept the original drill, although it does seem to have a very slight eccentric rotation, it drills and drives with great precision, i love it! I had been back and forth with my dealer and a festool engineer, the guy at festool had a couple in the shop whilst we was on the phone and he said his were exactly the same, im very happy with the purchase it seems to last longer after a few charges.
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: CXS drill mini review
« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2011, 05:59 PM »
Jmb What have you been using that CXS for, "stiring plaster" it looks like you have given it a hard time?
Dan did you manage to ge your CXS changed?

Meatman


Its a T15 and yes maybe I did use it to stir one bucket load of plaster but thats IT  I decided to get the power drill out for the rest  [tongue].   I use my tools but I do look after them best I can and unfortunately I can not avoid getting them a little dirty  [mad]


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