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5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« on: November 01, 2020, 06:56 PM »
In this video, I share the 5 Reasons Why I LOVE the Festool CT Cyclone. I've own the Festool CT Cyclone for about 6 months now and I'm so happy I picked one up. In the past, I had the Oneida Dust Deputy and was happy with how it separated large particles during projects, however that was the only redeeming quality in my opinion. I feel that the CT Cyclone is a better fit within the Festool ecosystem and recommend it to anyone that needs a good separator.


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Offline Gregor

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2020, 07:57 AM »
I can only suggest to get the upgrade kit.

Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2020, 07:59 AM »
I can only suggest to get the upgrade kit.

The what!?!?!?

Offline jobsworth

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2020, 09:48 AM »
Yea the upgrade kit. Call Festool Service and theyll hook you up. Used to be at no cost lately I heard theyve been charging for it.

Only issue Ive had with the cyclone is 1) the CT bag will get full if you use it enough, Mine did and drove me crazy cuz I lost suction and couldnt figure out why until I opened my CT and sat that brick sitting there full of chips. Once emptied it worked great again. 2) When using smething like the 850 planers undulating head going to deep or fast will cause it to clog and spit chips all over the MFT/ work piece like this table top I made 3 ft wide and 6.5 ft long (see attached) and when vaccuming up the shop floor thin pieces of plywood etc will cause the cyclone to clog.

But other than those things I really like mines

Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2020, 12:09 PM »
I was pretty skeptical when I got mine as it seemed like big bucks for modest functionality, but for some reason I pulled the trigger anyway.  I do like it for all the reasons cited in the video.  I don't like the real estate that it takes up, but of all the available options, it's got the best design.


I bought four boxes of CT36 bags when I bought my CT36, before I got the cyclone.  I figured for my use then, it was at least a 5 year supply, maybe more.  But... I was just using the CT36 connected to a domino and some sanders.  I think it took me nearly six months to fill the first bag.  Then I got a couple of routers and a track saw.  The first bag with the routers filled in about a month.  That's how I talked myself into the cyclone. Once I got the cyclone, I started using it for general shop cleanup as well - including both hand tools (I can make a big mess fast with a plane), power tools like my drill press, and so on.  Now in a month where I'm spending a fair amount of time in the shop I fill the cyclone a couple of times.  In addition to saving bags, the cyclone gave me more clean-up options and efficiency as well.  I figure it should pay for itself in 2-4 years in terms of bags, but less than that if you count the added flexibility.  Obviously someone who is using their dust extractor professionally will see a much faster payback.  On the other hand, I still have most of three boxes of bags left, so probably a lifetime supply (maybe two) now that I have  the cyclone.


I do have a couple of questions for those of you using the cyclone.


1.  How does cyclone use affect the filter?  When I sand, a lot of fine dust ends up in the cyclone.  That surprised me a bit, as I expected the small stuff to get sucked right through.  The filter looks about the same as it did when I started using the cyclone.  If you use the cyclone, do you find that filters last longer because less really small stuff gets through?


2.  I used a clear bag with with cyclone for the first couple of times I filled it up, but it seemed like it just got in the way and made emptying more awkward.  Since then I've been using it without the bag, and the only downside I can see is that the clear container gets a little dusty - not a big deal.  I'm not trashing the sawdust, so I don't need to bag it for that.  I just dump the dust in the back yard.  That's what I do with the dust from my big collector too.  I figure I'm adding organic matter to the soil.


3.  For emptying, how full is full?  I generally end up emptying it when one side creeps up near the top of the container.


4.  Finally, I missed the thread on the latch option when it happened.  It's now for sale for $30.  Why would I want it?

Offline threesixright

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5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2020, 12:22 PM »
I have it hooked up to my kapex and ct mini. Works great.

Its not 100% catching all, but my guesstimate is its in the 90’s (%).


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Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2020, 12:48 PM »
I like mine but I don't use the larger plastic container/bags, yet.  I just use the self-contained area inside so I don't lose any height.  I clean it weekly so its never a problem and its easy to get too.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2020, 01:51 PM »
I gave up on the bags.   The plastic will get beat up over time, but the bags just were not working, collection worked better after I stopped using them from I can tell.

I get why Festool tried to make some stacking containers.  Sound great if you are working drywall on the 8th floor of a site all day and need to just bin it all thru the day.  But for most of us, one container that is just a sysainer with a bin would have been better. nice stable stack that all connects together.

Offline Yardbird

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2020, 02:29 PM »
I understand the cyclone does not fit older mini or midis but does fit later ones.  What is the difference?  Do the later ones have a different model #?   I want to know because I need to buy a vacuum and want it to be able to use the cyclone.  Even if I order from a dealer, I could still get old inventory that would not work.  So I need to know if the model # changed, or what physical difference there is that I could see in a picture (in case I buy a used one).  Thanks.

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2020, 02:51 PM »
I understand the cyclone does not fit older mini or midis but does fit later ones.  What is the difference?  Do the later ones have a different model #?   I want to know because I need to buy a vacuum and want it to be able to use the cyclone.  Even if I order from a dealer, I could still get old inventory that would not work.  So I need to know if the model # changed, or what physical difference there is that I could see in a picture (in case I buy a used one).  Thanks.

Older (Pre-2019) Midi/Minis have their dust port further back in the garage.  The included hose will not reach it.  Doesn't mean you can't get an AS hose and rig something to the cyclone.  The new models are nicely called CT MINI I and CT MIDI I with new # so you're not going to get an old one.

Offline pettyconstruction

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2020, 03:40 PM »
I have been lately considering a cyclone but at $375 that’s a lot of bags.
I’ve had my vac for about 6-7 years now and have filled the bags at a very slow rate.
I don’t have a Festool router ( yet) but have a domino and a assortment of Sanders.
I have probably gone through about 5-6 bags in that time but a big shock was my year old Saw stop.
That can really fill it up.
I think I need to weigh the pros and cons some more.
Cheers Charlie


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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2020, 05:14 PM »
I was pretty skeptical when I got mine as it seemed like big bucks for modest functionality, but for some reason I pulled the trigger anyway.  I do like it for all the reasons cited in the video.  I don't like the real estate that it takes up, but of all the available options, it's got the best design.


I bought four boxes of CT36 bags when I bought my CT36, before I got the cyclone.  I figured for my use then, it was at least a 5 year supply, maybe more.  But... I was just using the CT36 connected to a domino and some sanders.  I think it took me nearly six months to fill the first bag.  Then I got a couple of routers and a track saw.  The first bag with the routers filled in about a month.  That's how I talked myself into the cyclone. Once I got the cyclone, I started using it for general shop cleanup as well - including both hand tools (I can make a big mess fast with a plane), power tools like my drill press, and so on.  Now in a month where I'm spending a fair amount of time in the shop I fill the cyclone a couple of times.  In addition to saving bags, the cyclone gave me more clean-up options and efficiency as well.  I figure it should pay for itself in 2-4 years in terms of bags, but less than that if you count the added flexibility.  Obviously someone who is using their dust extractor professionally will see a much faster payback.  On the other hand, I still have most of three boxes of bags left, so probably a lifetime supply (maybe two) now that I have  the cyclone.


I do have a couple of questions for those of you using the cyclone.


1.  How does cyclone use affect the filter?  When I sand, a lot of fine dust ends up in the cyclone.  That surprised me a bit, as I expected the small stuff to get sucked right through.  The filter looks about the same as it did when I started using the cyclone.  If you use the cyclone, do you find that filters last longer because less really small stuff gets through?


2.  I used a clear bag with with cyclone for the first couple of times I filled it up, but it seemed like it just got in the way and made emptying more awkward.  Since then I've been using it without the bag, and the only downside I can see is that the clear container gets a little dusty - not a big deal.  I'm not trashing the sawdust, so I don't need to bag it for that.  I just dump the dust in the back yard.  That's what I do with the dust from my big collector too.  I figure I'm adding organic matter to the soil.


3.  For emptying, how full is full?  I generally end up emptying it when one side creeps up near the top of the container.


4.  Finally, I missed the thread on the latch option when it happened.  It's now for sale for $30.  Why would I want it?

1. Hard to tell, but I think the grit of the paper you're using affects how much ends up in the cyclone vs the bag and then filter. Lower grit means larger bits of material that may be too heavy to get sucked into the bag. Finer papers create small, finer particulates - some that pass through the bag and end up on the filter. I've had to clean out my filter lately, I had a good bit of fine dust in the bag and outside of it.

2. I stopped using the dust bag as well - it kept getting sucked up towards the separator shroud and large bits would get sucked into the bag.

3. Once I see particles getting near the handles on the clear bin, I empty it out.

4. I think it's good for those that secure other systainers on top the cyclone and want to secure it down. Unless you're moving it around - in and out of a vehicle or on the job site it's likely to not serve much of a purpose for you.

Offline jobsworth

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2020, 06:07 PM »
I got a black electrical tie that came with it.

 Anyone know what its for?

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2020, 06:36 PM »
I got a black electrical tie that came with it.

 Anyone know what its for?

I thought it was for sealing the bag?
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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2020, 06:48 PM »
I understand the cyclone does not fit older mini or midis but does fit later ones.  What is the difference?  Do the later ones have a different model #?   I want to know because I need to buy a vacuum and want it to be able to use the cyclone.  Even if I order from a dealer, I could still get old inventory that would not work.  So I need to know if the model # changed, or what physical difference there is that I could see in a picture (in case I buy a used one).  Thanks.

From my understanding, it has to deal with the available suction power, so the CT SYS does not perform well with it. The festool website says it's for CT 26/36/48 and any system that has auto clean. You can always shoot a festool rep a message or email. Someone on the FB FOG mentioned that it works fine with the MIDI.

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2020, 08:23 PM »
I got a black electrical tie that came with it.

 Anyone know what its for?

I thought it was for sealing the bag?

Could be I haven't used the bag.

Offline Gregor

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Re: 5 Reasons Why I love the the CT Cyclone
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2020, 08:41 AM »
I understand the cyclone does not fit older mini or midis but does fit later ones.  What is the difference?  Do the later ones have a different model #?   I want to know because I need to buy a vacuum and want it to be able to use the cyclone.  Even if I order from a dealer, I could still get old inventory that would not work.  So I need to know if the model # changed, or what physical difference there is that I could see in a picture (in case I buy a used one).  Thanks.

Older (Pre-2019) Midi/Minis have their dust port further back in the garage.  The included hose will not reach it.  Doesn't mean you can't get an AS hose and rig something to the cyclone.  The new models are nicely called CT MINI I and CT MIDI I with new # so you're not going to get an old one.

Supplied hose works on an old MIDI, no problem. This with the initial version (which needed the upgrade kit) of the CT-VA.