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Offline ScotF

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Re: 1010 vs 1400
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2020, 09:24 PM »
They all have their strengths and weaknesses - that is why you might do like me and get one of each!

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Offline fabricem

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Re: 1010 vs 1400
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2020, 09:15 AM »
I will add my two cents to the discussion as this is an issue I just dealt with. I should prime my comments with the fact that I hate routers and don't need to go out to job sites, all my work is done in my studio. I am very comfortable with all my tools, but routers when handheld are scary to me, especially the powerful one. The 1400 was my first festool router and I had it for years, it is very well design, powerful and does well with both 1/4 and 1/2 bits. However, I almost never used it handheld, especially with 1/2 bits ( I do use it on a festool router table), for handheld, I used my Bosch palm router . recently I decided to downsize my tool "collection" and get rid of tools that are either redundant with other tools or tools I don't use much. I sold both my 1400 and palm routers and bought the MFK700 since most of my router needs involve little touch-up such as adding a small bevel or edge trimming. I love the feel of the MFK700 except for a giant design flow, IMO, which is that you can't see the bit, and in my work ( I am an industrial designer and do a lot of prototyping ) I need to see where I am in space and where my bit is. This is the only Festool tool I have sent back in the many years using their tools... So I ended up buying the OF1010. The 1010 is a great compromise, it is easy to use handheld and has plenty of power, not to mention I can still use my router table... I should mention that I also have a full size CNC with a spindle, one of the reason I don't need/use big routers...but do use smaller router to remove tabs left-over from the CNC cuts. My 1010. To conclude, I would say that  the choice between the two is really about what size bits are you going to use? for handheld work 1/4 is perfect, if you use 1/2" bits, then you are/should probably invest in a router table as well, make using 1/2" much easier and much less stresful : ) Of course if you are a professional such a cabinet maker and go out to job sites, then the 1400 would have to be a better choice.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: 1010 vs 1400
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2020, 06:00 PM »
I use my Dewalt compact router a lot and the basic round over, chamfer, top/bottom flush trim bits are the ones I use the most.  Not finding them in the 8mm size so I guess I will continue with the 1/4" shanks.

Do  search on this forum for threads talking about 8mm shank router bits.  There have been many threads about where to buy these bits.  Looking at European websites and ordering from there is one answer.  Google search for 8mm router bits turns up Whiteside, Amana, Freud, CMT all making 8mm shank bits.  Again, you may have to buy them from a European seller and have them shipped to the USA because the US sellers do not carry the 8mm shank bits even though the company they represent does make them.

They have quite a few at Lee Valley. I have several 8mm shank bits from there. I discovered them while searching for a bigger bit to use in my MFK700 with the Paul Mercel modification to the zero degree base a few years ago.
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Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: 1010 vs 1400
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2020, 02:11 AM »
Trend USA do 8 mm shank cutters.

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Offline afish

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Re: 1010 vs 1400
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2020, 07:14 PM »
What are you using for dust extraction for the DW621?  You have to be throwing some pretty big chips to clog that bad boy.  If anything the extractor might be underpowered.  A router throws the particles with pretty good force and you need a lot of air to overcome that force.  Im not super picky with the dust collection of a router but I have always been pretty happy with my DW621's if your working on the edge they dont do to much and would need a shroud to help catch the dust.  The fact that the 1010 only takes .25 or 8mm bits and the 1400 has no way to center the bushing totally turns me off of festool routers.  Any router that costs 600 and you cant adjust the bushing to be centered is just sad.   

Offline Cheese

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Re: OF 1010 vs OF 1400
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2020, 11:26 AM »
Just in case anyone is unsure about how much power the 1010 router has versus the 1400, consider that Festool offers a rebating head that is 50 mm in diameter and has a cutter length of 30 mm.

The very same rebating head is designed to fit the 1010 router using the cutter spindle 489285, or the 1400 & 2200 routers using the cutter spindle 490131.

Here's a photo of the rebating head along with the spindle for the 1400/2200 routers. That's a large chunk of metal.  [big grin]  As I've said before, the 1010 is not a lightweight router when it comes to capabilities it's only lightweight in the sense of how much it weighs.

Besides...on a 1010 you can center the bit within the template guide.  [dead horse]





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Offline contendernut

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Re: 1010 vs 1400
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2020, 12:27 PM »
That’s a lot of metal to turn.

I have the 1010 but not the 1400. I have no problems with the 1010 for any handheld task. Now if JessEm would only make a lift for the 2200

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: 1010 vs 1400
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2020, 04:21 PM »
I bought an extra router mounting plate for the LR32 system; my idea was to have the 1010 mounted in one for drilling shelf holes, and the 1400 mounted in the other for the hinge cup holes. Don’t have to re-center each time I switch from one to another.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: OF 1010 vs OF 1400
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2020, 12:54 PM »
Just in case anyone is unsure about how much power the 1010 router has versus the 1400, consider that Festool offers a rebating head that is 50 mm in diameter and has a cutter length of 30 mm.

The very same rebating head is designed to fit the 1010 router using the cutter spindle 489285, or the 1400 & 2200 routers using the cutter spindle 490131.

Here's a photo of the rebating head along with the spindle for the 1400/2200 routers. That's a large chunk of metal.  [big grin]  As I've said before, the 1010 is not a lightweight router when it comes to capabilities it's only lightweight in the sense of how much it weighs.

Besides...on a 1010 you can center the bit within the template guide.  [dead horse]


Is that made with the taper of the collet? So it just screws onto the spindle of the router itself?
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RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)

Offline Cheese

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Re: OF 1010 vs OF 1400
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2020, 01:21 PM »
Is that made with the taper of the collet? So it just screws onto the spindle of the router itself?

Ya...you just remove the collet & nut and this replaces them.

The same thing goes for the 1010 router.

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: 1010 vs 1400
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2020, 03:58 PM »
There are some tools that just hit the ergonomic sweet spot, and for me the 1010 (like the CXS) is one. Compared to the 1400, the 1010 is just delightful to use. I haven’t had it long, but experience using it with the LR32 system was extremely pleasant. Just needed the up-cutting primal bit which I have now ordered.