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Offline Packard

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Splinter guard falling off.
« on: November 22, 2022, 04:18 PM »
I store my track saw, tracks and clamps in my garage as I use it to break down sheet goods before I carry them into my shop in the basement.

This is the first year I am storing in the unheated garage.  Previously, I would carry the saw, the tracks, etc. upstairs each time I wanted to make some cuts. 

Apparently, the cold affects the adhesive that holds on the splinter guards. They are peeling off.

Any suggestions?  (And no, I don’t want to start carrying this stuff up and down the stairs each time I want to use it.)

 

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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Splinter guard falling off.
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2022, 05:40 PM »
Probably not the answer you want but I switched to the black Makita strip, and it has stayed stuck.

I think the Festool strip is too rigid to stretch with changes in temperature, and the adhesive overall isn't great. Don't know if there is any other way unless you go to a 3rd party adhesive. I previously tried some double-sided tape, and it didn't help.

RMW

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Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: Splinter guard falling off.
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2022, 06:04 PM »
I've been a TS55 user since 2005 and I never once had a splinterguard strip come off. My rails have always been kept outside in the van, and since I'm in the UK, our temperature gradient runs from 100F in the summer (which usually lasts around 10 minutes or so) down to 0F in the worst of our winters. The absolute key is cleanliness - the rail must be totally spotless and free from any contaminants, which means thoroughly cleaning the contact area with copious amounts of acetone. If it's cold and the strip feels stiff and rigid, heat it up with a hairdryer before you peel off the backing  tape and stick it on. No finger contact with the adhesive, please.

Your strip will stay put and the girls will love your cool hairdryer .
« Last Edit: November 22, 2022, 06:07 PM by woodbutcherbower »

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Splinter guard falling off.
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2022, 06:10 PM »
If you need a quick fix, get some double-faced carpet tape and cut a narrow piece to rejoin the splinter guard to the rail. 
- Willy -

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Offline RJNeal

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Re: Splinter guard falling off.
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2022, 08:12 PM »
I have had the clear strips fall the rail as soon as I’ve taken them out shipping case upon delivery
I went with makita and haven’t looked back.
I usually order the 118” strips and cut them for the shorter rails.
Rick
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Offline bobtskutter

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Re: Splinter guard falling off.
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2022, 04:51 AM »
My rails have been stored in an unheated UK garage for the last couple of years, the splinter guards haven't come off yet.
I store the rails with the splinter guards pointing up in the air, there is no weight pushing down on the guard.
In one of the festool live videos I think Sedge says not to put the splinter guard all the way to the end of the aluminum rail; leave a small 5mm gap.  It stops the splinter guard getting pealed off when you move the rails.
Regards
Bob

Offline Packard

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Re: Splinter guard falling off.
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2022, 08:58 AM »
Thanks for the replies. 

1. I did not know that the Makita strips would fit my rails.  I will try them next.

2.  I do have an adhesive transfer gun (applies the adhesive that double faced tape uses, but leaves off the tape itself.  They do make hand transfer adhesive transfer that is applied with a release release paper.).  I will try that.

FYI:




Note:  I used this dispenser several times daily when I had my frame shop.  If this interests you, you can avoid the cost of the dispenser by using hand applied.

The primary application was for dust covers on the back of the frame.  So I would use it between 5 and 8 times daily (sometimes more, but 8 frames a day was about my limit).

For greater strength, I applied two layers of the adhesive and that is what I will try on the splinter guard.

Most art supply stores carry this.  Online you can find various widths.  (The gun uses 1/2” wide adhesive.)

Offline mino

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Re: Splinter guard falling off.
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2022, 09:15 AM »
This could be caused by the contract-expand cycles where the Festool strips are rigid while the Makita ones are soft rubber so can stretch/compress easily.

The issue for the rails would be the temperature _changes_ not necessarily the cold itself.
To remediate, I would consider:
 - when placing a new strip, doing it at a temperature which is close to the garage average, i.e. not while at 5° (C) nor at 35° (C).
 - consider splitting the strip into multiple "sections" with small, say 0.05", gaps between thew so the overral "movement" asked of the strip is lowered
 - go for the Makita strips, their main disadvantage is that the cuts may be less clean as they are a bit worse in the anti-splinter function compared to the harder Festool ones => sounds like a non-issue for this scenario

Either way, I would be more concerned for the TS55 being left in a too-cold place where condensation/frost is a risk. More so than for the rails where the strips can be easily replaced.
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Offline SRSemenza

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Re: Splinter guard falling off.
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2022, 09:20 AM »
That transfer gun sure looks handy. I see that there are several types of adhesive tape. How easy is it to swap out the tape rolls? Is the general purpose type similar to the spray on contact adhesive?



Seth