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Offline JonathanJung

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OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« on: September 25, 2021, 12:39 PM »
My 2 year old OF1400 router does not spring back up for the last 1" of plunge. The user has to manually pull it up. I know Festool will want to see the tool back, but as this is my business, I would hope for an easy solution rather than parting with it for a week or two. Any ideas?

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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2021, 05:55 PM »
Spray lube? Just a little shot and work it up and down a few times may free it up.
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2021, 08:57 PM »
Make sure the locking knob is loose enough.

A little spray lube should clear up the issue.

Tom

Offline tsmi243

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2021, 12:13 PM »
What kind of spray are you guys using? 

Offline JonathanJung

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2021, 12:28 PM »
Interestingly, the problem only started after I wiped on a thin layer of Bostik tool lube on the stanchions...

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2021, 12:32 PM »
I like either Remoil or Starrett oil. Also Wilson Combat light oil is excellent.
Birdhunter

Offline tsmi243

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2021, 01:59 PM »
Interestingly, the problem only started after I wiped on a thin layer of Bostik tool lube on the stanchions...

This is why I haven't done mine yet.... can't find any metric oil, and don't want to miscalculate on the conversion :)

Offline Yardbird

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2021, 02:39 PM »
the metric oil is in the liter containers.  That is what I always use in my foreign cars. 

Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2021, 10:32 PM »
Interestingly, the problem only started after I wiped on a thin layer of Bostik tool lube on the stanchions...
This is very interesting.  When I first started with the OF1010 and the LR-32, it was suggested to put a film on the slide rods/stanchions.  I noticed it was much harder to plunge from then on.  Its like it made it stickier, not slickier.  Haven't used the 1010 as much lately so haven't addressed it yet.

Offline Cheese

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2021, 12:22 AM »
This issue was addressed a few years ago, the concensus at the time was Dyna Glide plus, Starrett M1 and there's one more that I can't remember but Sparky @Sparktrician will remember.  [smile]

WD 40 is a no-no.

https://microfence.com/product/dynaglide-dry-lube-spray-buy-separately-or-by-the-case/

https://www.starrett.com/category/32#currentPage=1&displayMode=grid&itemsPerPage=12&sortBy=wp/asc

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2021, 03:28 AM »
Ditto on WD40. It’s is a water displacement chemical. It tends to get gooey if left on metal. A light oil like Remoil, starrett oil, of Wilson Combat lite oil work well. Whatever you use, it need to be wiped off periodically and replaced. Any oil collects debris.
Birdhunter

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2021, 06:52 AM »
This issue was addressed a few years ago, the concensus at the time was Dyna Glide plus, Starrett M1 and there's one more that I can't remember but Sparky @Sparktrician will remember.  [smile]

WD 40 is a no-no.

https://microfence.com/product/dynaglide-dry-lube-spray-buy-separately-or-by-the-case/

https://www.starrett.com/category/32#currentPage=1&displayMode=grid&itemsPerPage=12&sortBy=wp/asc

I do first a good rub-down on the glide rods with 0000 steel wool to remove any surface corrosion, however slight, then follow that with a light wipe of Militec-1.  Militec-1 is a firearms lubricant that penetrates the surface of the metal creating a barrier to corrosion as well as greatly-improved slip.  If you choose to use Militec-1, read the instructions before applying.  Too much is as bad as too little.  Two light applications works very well for me. 
- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)

Offline Cheese

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2021, 09:23 AM »
An interesting theme here is that the above recommended lubricants Militec-1, Remoil, Wilson Combat & Hornady Dyna Glide originally came from the firearms industry where the lubricant needs to penetrate the metal surface and then gets wiped off leaving a microscopic film of protection/lubricity.

The same for Starrett M1 where it's used on the threads of micrometers and wiped on gauge blocks for protection from finger prints/corrosion.


Offline Birdhunter

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2021, 12:39 PM »
I use Wilson Combat Light the most, then their Medium on tools.  I almost never use their grease. Remoil is what I use on my sporting “utensils”. The Starrett oil just goes on their measuring tools. I use WD40 on metal items that get rained on. But, I remove it and apply Remoil.
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Offline tsmi243

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2021, 01:34 PM »
How bout Hoppe's #9?  Same category?

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2021, 05:25 PM »
I use LPS 1. It has been the standard spray lube for all of the machines in the shop for years. No silicone, doesn't get sticky
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2021, 06:07 PM »
How bout Hoppe's #9?  Same category?

No!  Hoppe's #9 is a solvent, not a lubricant.
- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

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Offline tsmi243

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2021, 06:48 PM »
How bout Hoppe's #9?  Same category?

No!  Hoppe's #9 is a solvent, not a lubricant.

Noted.  Thanks

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2021, 08:42 PM »
Hoppes 9 has a wonderful smell that takes me back to outings in Oklahoma with my dad. After returning from our outing, we would feed the dogs then clean our “utensils” with Hoppes then wipe them down with light oil. Good memories.
Birdhunter

Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2021, 09:06 PM »
For what it's worth, Felder recommends wiping down the steel ways on their sliding tables (and other steel parts) with Ballistol, then wiping off the excess oil. I've found this oil to be handy for other moving parts around the Shop, might be worth a try...

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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2021, 06:47 AM »
Hoppes 9 has a wonderful smell that takes me back to outings in Oklahoma with my dad. After returning from our outing, we would feed the dogs then clean our “utensils” with Hoppes then wipe them down with light oil. Good memories.

I've often thought that Hoppe's is missing the boat by NOT making an aftershave or underarm deodorant with their signature scent.   [big grin]
- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2021, 12:54 PM »
“ I've often thought that Hoppe's is missing the boat by NOT making an aftershave or underarm deodorant with their signature scent.”

That’s a staggering concept.
Birdhunter

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2021, 05:07 PM »
“ I've often thought that Hoppe's is missing the boat by NOT making an aftershave or underarm deodorant with their signature scent.”

That’s a staggering concept.

Well???  Is it not true???   [big grin]   What could possibly be more masculine? 

- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)

Offline Cheese

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2021, 05:30 PM »
Well???  Is it not true???   [big grin]   What could possibly be more masculine?

Actually Sparky I prefer this because of its ease of application. Just a quick spray and I'm golden....


Offline Sparktrician

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2021, 06:47 PM »
Well???  Is it not true???   [big grin]   What could possibly be more masculine?
Actually Sparky I prefer this because of its ease of application. Just a quick spray and I'm golden....

BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!   [big grin]
- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)

Offline jcrowe1950

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2021, 04:22 PM »
My 2 year old OF1400 router does not spring back up for the last 1" of plunge. The user has to manually pull it up. I know Festool will want to see the tool back, but as this is my business, I would hope for an easy solution rather than parting with it for a week or two. Any ideas?
   I'm not sure where you are located but I wipe down the posts with some kind of a light solvent to clean them and then use GP2000 for lubrication...same for the Dominos. PG2000 was developed as a bicycle chain lube but is great for this application. Greg Paolini and Sedge recommended this to me originally and I use the stuff to lube the gears on our Sawstop saws as well.PG2000 lubricant
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Offline memilanuk

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2021, 03:19 PM »
Hoppes 9 has a wonderful smell that takes me back to outings in Oklahoma with my dad. After returning from our outing, we would feed the dogs then clean our “utensils” with Hoppes then wipe them down with light oil. Good memories.

I've often thought that Hoppe's is missing the boat by NOT making an aftershave or underarm deodorant with their signature scent.   [big grin]

Pretty I've seen car air fresheners in Hoppes #9 flavor.  Used to joke that the best use for #9 was a little dab behind the ear to attract the ladies... ;)

As far as cleaning solvents go, the primary virtue of Hoppes #9 is that it's almost impossible for the lay person to screw up and damage their weapon with it.  Used to joke that the best use for #9 was a little dab behind the ear to attract the ladies... ;)

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: OF 1400 not returning from plunge
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2021, 07:20 PM »

Pretty I've seen car air fresheners in Hoppes #9 flavor.  Used to joke that the best use for #9 was a little dab behind the ear to attract the ladies... ;)


Here you go....
- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)