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Title: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: cfullen on October 12, 2016, 10:22 PM
Hey guys,

More of a call for help here.  I have a CT 36 and have recently purchased a CT mini.  I am on my third garage for the 36 and my new CT mini garage has now cracked in two places.  I have friends with the attic broken into much smaller pieces. 

On my CT 36 I have had success "stitching" the broken pieces together with zip ties.  I had done this in the past with ripped fenders in my 4 wheeler.  It works quite well.  I smeared a good amount of epoxy on top of the joint after stitched with the zip ties and it has worked quite well. The first two garages I lost relatively quickly.  It is a short learning curve realizing how fragile these are.  The third one looks a bit like Frankenstein, stitches all over its face. 

The CT mini is my road warrior.  It now goes everywhere with me.  That's not to say that I do not baby it because of my previous experience with the CT36.  It got a small fracture on the front left corner and did not make the trip home.  I gently lifted up the front to engage the brake foot and "snap".  I was now the proud owner of a two piece hose garage.  I am going to make an attempt to repair by stitching it up, but I don't think I will have much success because it is a compound fracture. 

I will likely be forking out the money for a replacement sooner or later.  Do I have any options?  Should I install a fiberglass backing before I release it into the wild?  (serious question)

The short end of the story is that I cannot be without both of these wonderful dust collectors.  But for the long term, I would like to see a longer life out of the hose garages.  Everything else I own by Festool is rock solid. 

Cheers,
CF
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Bohdan on October 12, 2016, 10:54 PM
You could try filling the back of your existing hose garage with polyurathane foam to reinforce it.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Jim Green on October 13, 2016, 12:53 AM
I had to laugh when I read the title of your post. I have a ct 26 and a midi both with broken garages that I have replaced a few times. They tip over in your truck or you look at them and there you go crack! I also have a ct 22 and 33 which seem to be almost bullet proof. They all are good vacs but my older ones are shall we say a little more robust.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Cunningrj on October 13, 2016, 01:08 AM
I just replaced my hose garage and switch today because of damage while in the van. When I was at the connect event, I mentioned it to the repair guys and they said they are aware of it and apparently Festool is looking for a fix. [attach=1]
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: TSO Products on October 13, 2016, 08:51 AM
would not ABS cement (solvent) do a better job for repair with a thin sheet of ABS material as a reinforcement heat formed to conform? - or am I missing the point entirely?
Hans
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: aloysius on October 13, 2016, 09:15 AM
Have one for my CT22 sitting on top of the shelves.  Used it once only.  Utter waste of time & money.  Whilst it seemed like a good idea at the time, it actually makes the otherwise compact vac uselessly ungainly & (with a box or 2 loaded with sander/s & abrasives) unstably top heavy.

Unfortunately, it seems that later vacs need the stupid "top box" for the Festo toolcase locking lugs etc.

Maybe you could ditch it altogether & screw &/or glue a Systainer "Metadepot" from the Metabo/Starmix vac range to solve the problem once & for all...
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: mleny77 on October 13, 2016, 09:34 AM
I have the CT26 still intact but I don't move it around a lot. How does the cracking happen? Is it from moving around from job site to job site or when you store and remove the hose? When I first got it unit I thought that it seemed a little tight to remove the hose from the garage.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: sigmatango on October 13, 2016, 09:39 AM
I just replaced my hose garage and switch today because of damage while in the van. When I was at the connect event, I mentioned it to the repair guys and they said they are aware of it and apparently Festool is looking for a fix. (Attachment Link)
Nice to see someone else whose Festool stuff looks like its been actually used... ;)
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: SRSemenza on October 13, 2016, 12:49 PM
Does seem that there are a lot of cracked CT garage housings. But so far my two CT Minis that go to job sites are holding up.  Knock on wood......... or plastic.  [smile]

Seth
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: leakyroof on October 13, 2016, 01:03 PM
3 vacs, no broken parts or Garage issues. It will interesting to see what develops from this going forward next year.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: DrD on October 13, 2016, 02:08 PM
My CT 26 is 3 yrs old, was moved in 2 house moves in that period of time & everything is intact.  No issues.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: PreferrablyWood on October 13, 2016, 02:49 PM
4 or is it 5 year old CT Midi no cracks, it doesn't get bounced around in the back of a pickup truck or thrown down stairs though..
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Paul G on October 13, 2016, 02:51 PM
Both my 36 and mini garages are intact. But I don't drive around with them much. 
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: sigmatango on October 13, 2016, 04:47 PM
I have noticed that I need to buy a sysRoll. I have a tendency to stack all my Festool stuff on my CT26. That could cause future problems...  [scared] [eek]
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: antss on October 13, 2016, 07:42 PM
My CT26's is intact. But, that's because it's brand new this summer. The garage , not the vac.

My opinion is that the plastic on this generation of vac is not as robust as the 22/33 series- especially the garages. 

However , I was looking at the new sortainers & sys combis this week and plastic on the drawers feels a bit more supple than to old sortainer drawers. 

My observations only - as I have not conducted any scientific analysis on any of the materials.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: McNally Family on October 13, 2016, 07:51 PM
Does seem that there are a lot of cracked CT garage housings. But so far my two CT Minis that go to job sites are holding up.  Knock on wood......... or plastic.  [smile]

Seth

Just don't knock too hard........
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Jason Kehl on October 13, 2016, 08:45 PM
I have 2 Midi and 2 CT-26 on site and 1 CT-36 in the shop. I replaced one of the CT-26 house garages, but otherwise no problems. They get used daily, but not abused. The plastic is not very flexible so we make a point of not banging them into things on site and take a moment to secure them for transport in the tool trailer so they don't shift in transit.

j
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Kevin C. on October 13, 2016, 11:04 PM
Nope! My ct36 is just over a year old and today broke in a third place.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Gregor on October 14, 2016, 04:05 AM
CT36AC, ~2.8 years old, garage broke around the fixed systainer connectors when moving it over uneven ground (with XL700+OF1010 ontop). According to label produced 2012.

Problem with plastics is that the plasticizer giving it flexibility tend to fail after a while, making it brittle.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: JD2720 on October 14, 2016, 07:26 AM
I have owned 8 CTs of all sizes for many years. One stays in the truck full time the others travel as needed. I have yet to even crack a hose garage. I learned early on that the hose garages is not a carrying handles.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Coen on October 15, 2016, 05:55 PM
A CT-22(-SG), bought in a combo deal with my TS-55, I think in 2006. The hose garage is the -SG part, and was just new at that time. And a CT-26

None of them with cracks. But they largely remain in the garage.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: antss on October 17, 2016, 07:40 PM
Looks like most of the issues are on vacs that travel frequently ?   JD's notwithstanding.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Coen on October 18, 2016, 07:17 AM
That makes sense, since the hose garage is the thing that sticks out most and bumps into things when transporting it. However, parked under a CS-50... it never contacts with anything.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: SS Teach on November 16, 2016, 07:33 PM
The hose garage on my CT36 has a couple of cracks. I think many many days over 100 degrees F for several years has something to do with it. Plastic things don't last a long time where I live.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: BJM9818 on November 21, 2016, 12:05 AM
I have a CT36 with just 4 corner post on top. Both my midi garages are fine and one dates back to 2007.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: HarveyWildes on November 21, 2016, 09:03 AM
Mine is fine, but sees mostly shop use.  I have to say that it is a great idea for my house remodel projects - I put my systainer tool caddy on the garage and wheel all the hand and cordless tools around with the vacuum.  I would be disappointed if it broke so that it was no longer usable for that.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: duburban on November 22, 2016, 02:19 AM
I have two vacs and two cracks.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Roseland on November 22, 2016, 03:52 AM
My 8 year old CT26 is intact, but it spends almost all its life in the workshop, and I don't stack systainers on it.

Andrew
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: chippy on March 18, 2017, 03:15 AM
Mine fell over in van last week and now it has cracks and it will fall apart quickly now.
It will be the third top. I see many that are broken it is a real and cheap weakness.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Ross 71 on March 18, 2017, 08:35 PM
My midi has put up with near 2 years of being lumped around and is still intact.

I'm worried now....
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Lettusbee on March 18, 2017, 10:26 PM
I purchased both a CT26 and a midi this last summer.  The CT26 was already broken when I opened the box.  It was of course replaced by the vendor.  But still.  Decades of experience in plastics manufacturing, and we have to put up with this?   It's just a little weird some of the idiosyncrasies we accept in pursuit of superior tools.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Laminator on March 18, 2017, 11:08 PM
I recently had to repair the top of my oldest 26 where the work center rests on it. I lazily used it to push myself from my knees after changing the bag and it cracked about 8".  I used pl8 adhesive and filled the hollow channel completely.  It now feels solid as a polyurethane rock.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: jools on March 19, 2017, 02:53 AM
My 3yo midi is missing bits and has a cracked corner. Treated no different to a cheap vac which is in pristine condition.
It's seems to happen in the cold more.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: scholar on March 19, 2017, 07:56 AM
My CT26 is getting on a bit now and is all in one piece.  The only problem I have with that is the old style systainer catches and I really wish Festool would redesign the top with a T-Loc catch.

My CT Mini did suffer a small bit breaking off the corner of the hose guide on the "garage", but I replaced the whole top with the new T-Loc style, since when it has survived unscathed.

Cheers

Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: jools on March 19, 2017, 09:50 AM
That's where my midi broke first and I have the older systainer latches style. Was it hard to change @scholar ?
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: scholar on March 19, 2017, 10:27 AM
Piece of cake.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/update-ctl-minimidi-with-new-t-loc-top/msg324261/#msg324261

Cheers
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: HarveyWildes on March 19, 2017, 10:44 AM
I purchased both a CT26 and a midi this last summer.  The CT26 was already broken when I opened the box.  It was of course replaced by the vendor.  But still.  Decades of experience in plastics manufacturing, and we have to put up with this?   It's just a little weird some of the idiosyncrasies we accept in pursuit of superior tools.

I have a CT36 with an intact hose garage that came that way.  It is in a home shop, so doesn't get tradesman use, but it has survived the granddaughters, who clean my shop once a month or so for spending money.

For all of that, I actually do use the garage quite a bit when I'm in the shop.  I use it to stage whatever tool I'm using at the moment that requires dust collection.  Usually a systainer for the tool I'm using with the CT and another for consumables (dominos or sandpaper).
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Stan Tillinghast on April 20, 2017, 05:53 PM
My old CT 33 still has its hose garage intact; the newer (and more used) CT 36 has a broken garage. Everyone wants to sell me a garage for the CT 33, but the design is different. I can't find a part number for the hose garage for the CT 36. I recall the garage was an accessory for the 33 but standard on the 36.
Does anyone have a US source and part number for the hose garage replacement for the CT 36?
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: SRSemenza on April 20, 2017, 07:33 PM
My old CT 33 still has its hose garage intact; the newer (and more used) CT 36 has a broken garage. Everyone wants to sell me a garage for the CT 33, but the design is different. I can't find a part number for the hose garage for the CT 36. I recall the garage was an accessory for the 33 but standard on the 36.
Does anyone have a US source and part number for the hose garage replacement for the CT 36?

Looks like 496237 on the EKAT. Contact a dealer to order.

You can find parts diagrams on the Festool Spare Parts selection on the Festool Websites drop down in the top bar.

Seth
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Bob D. on April 20, 2017, 07:42 PM
My CT36 is still in great shape after 6+ years but it rarely gets pulled out from under the outfeed table of my tablesaw.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: PA floor guy on April 20, 2017, 07:42 PM
I'm so glad to see this post. I have spoken with Shane and Tyler about it already. Tyler is gonna get this resolved with festool Directly.   THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!
    Each day that goes by gets me more irritated, having 5 festool vacs.  All broken garages.     
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Brice Burrell on April 20, 2017, 08:46 PM
I'm so glad to see this post. I have spoken with Shane and Tyler about it already. Tyler is gonna get this resolved with festool Directly.   THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!
    Each day that goes by gets me more irritated, having 5 festool vacs.  All broken garages.   

I hope you mean Festool is going to fix the issue with the plastic, and not just your broken vacs.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Stan Tillinghast on April 20, 2017, 10:33 PM
SRSemenza, thanks for checking on that part number 496237. Yes, EKAT does show that as the correct part for the CT 36. I was going by the images I see online for that part, which is the picture for the older hose garage as far as I can tell. I will check with the local dealer, thanks. Or maybe I won't and will wait until Festool makes an unbreakable hose garage.  [wink]
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: fralapp on November 20, 2018, 12:26 PM
I just purchase a used CT 26E vacuum and the hose garage plastics have broken without any provocation at all.  First thing, it snapped of in my hand when I attempted to roll it by grabbing the plastic edge.  The plastic looks like it is made of Baklite plastic and is thin and brittle.  This should have been covered by a product notice and recall by Festool. 

When ordering a new garage, the replacement is described as such: Replacement T-LOC hose garage for Festool CT 26, CT 36 and CT 48 dust extractors. New improved 2018 model with improved reinforcement from two main points – new structural design and an upgraded ABS thermoplastic.

For a tool that cost over $700.00, Festools have lost some the shine for me.  Otherwise, the extractor works very well
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Kodi Crescent on November 21, 2018, 08:56 AM
I have the CT26 still intact but I don't move it around a lot. How does the cracking happen? Is it from moving around from job site to job site or when you store and remove the hose? When I first got it unit I thought that it seemed a little tight to remove the hose from the garage.

My several-year-old CT26 sits on a cart in the garage and is only moved when I empty the bag.  Mine garage broke by grasping the lip front lip of it and pulling the vacuum towards me so I could access the latches and remove the bag.  It was a simple pull, nothing out of the ordinary (IMO).  The plastic got brittle over time and all it took was a simple pressure on that particular spot.

My several-year-old Midi garage busted after tumbling down 2 carpeted steps.  This vacuum was dragged all over the place throughout the house.  Again, the plastic became brittle over time and it didn't take much for it to bust.

I bought a new garage for the Midi, but it didn't fit.  Festool sent me an updated version along with another part to ensure it fit.  This part feels much more robust.  I'm very thankful for the level of service I received from Festool.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: bror on December 02, 2018, 10:21 AM
My second hose garage has died. It bit me in the finger when it went.

That will not happen again.

[attachimg=1]

I really like my festool vac, I think the new hoses are brillliant, as is the new remote, but the hose garage...
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: JimH2 on January 19, 2019, 10:51 AM
4 Vacs with garages and no problems.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: harry_ on January 19, 2019, 09:28 PM
worst $80 (at the time) I ever spent!
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Coen on January 20, 2019, 12:18 PM
The hose garage on my CTL-26 is also broken now, where it connects to the vac and the front right corner.

SRSemenza, thanks for checking on that part number 496237. Yes, EKAT does show that as the correct part for the CT 36. I was going by the images I see online for that part, which is the picture for the older hose garage as far as I can tell. I will check with the local dealer, thanks. Or maybe I won't and will wait until Festool makes an unbreakable hose garage.  [wink]

Part 204040 is the newer one for T-locs it seems. But that makes it harder to stack classic Systainer on it as you would need to apply four latches instead of two.

Next time I am making Epoxy I'll try to glue up the old garage with glassfibre.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: harry_ on January 20, 2019, 05:21 PM
I noticed that the garage that is part of my CT36 AC is universal. Too bad there isn't a similar one for the older vacs.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Steve1 on January 21, 2019, 08:48 AM
My CT36 is 2 or 3 years old.   Hose garage still fine.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: duburban on January 21, 2019, 10:24 AM
I have 1 of 2 because I just replaced it.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Joe Felchlin on January 21, 2019, 10:24 AM
Long time hobbyist (Dust Collectors stay in shop/in place).
Hose garages for CT33 and CT26 intact and unbroken. [smile]
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: jobsworth on January 27, 2019, 12:41 PM
I replaced the one on my CT26.  Hans is right about using ABS glue, dont work. Best to just get a new one.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Coen on April 14, 2021, 04:08 PM
[attachimg=1]

RIP. I tried to pull the extractor by grabbing is by the hose garage. The three corners that were still intact all failed at the same time.

I guess I'm gonna buy that newer one.

Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Crazyraceguy on April 14, 2021, 05:58 PM
Wow, I never knew that this was an issue.
My personal CT26 is just as good as it was on day one. I did make a top plate for it from 3/4" MDF. That was just to give it a flat surface for setting the TS55, while in use.
 However, the one that belongs to the company, which gets taken out into the field, has one of the tabs for the cord wrap broken on it. The hose garage is fine, but it is almost always connected to a Systainer with an RO150.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Coen on April 14, 2021, 06:07 PM
Yeah if you have a Systainer on top of it, it limits the ways you can grab the hose garage. But maybe the front party would suffer more..

The recessed handle of the CTL22 combined with the later separately added hose garage definitely made for a better surface for TS55 parking compared to CTL26.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Sparktrician on April 14, 2021, 06:21 PM
My CT 22 still has the original hose garage on it (11 years later), but the 9-year-old CT Mini just got its first replacement hose garage after the original one just kept crumbling off.  The CT 22 stays in the shop with its boom arm attached, but the CT Mini travels to job sites as needed. 
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Coen on April 15, 2021, 05:19 AM
Yeah same, sorta. The CTL22 hose garage is still intact. But that vac is parked underneath a CS 50
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: mino on April 15, 2021, 06:12 AM
If need to lug the vac around unsecured, one will probably be better off with a garage-less design like the CT HD series were or the CT15 is.

Not sure these were sold in US, but for European folks it may be worth it to get the HD parts from eKAT instead of just getting another garage...

Mine is fine, but is a shop thing and I would not consider grabbing the vac by the garage with any kind of force. When I need to lift it will always grab it by the handle automatically ... the CT 36 gets pretty heavy when filled even 50% so not surprised the garage gets broken if raised by it.

@FestoolUSA
Feedback for new vacs to reduce issues with garages being broken:
How about the front of the new CT garage or vac body to include a designed-in reinforced handle the vac can be grabbed by even when fully loaded, with systainers atop etc.?
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: lynkage on January 01, 2022, 05:25 PM
Sorry for the rant, but folks should know about poorly designed products. I know this looks like I am a first-time user, however my account no longer is valid, so I had to sign up again.

CT-Mini CT-Midi CT36 CT48 all broken, and they never get transported, just live in the shop. I have had mine for about 8-10 years but pretty disappointed in the fact that my Ridged shop vac that is 15-16 years old still works like the day I bought it and is not broken. It does get tossed around and beat up on jobsites, trucks etc.

On top of that my CT-Midi and CT-36 both have lost the ability to start up when in Auto mode.

Looking at the Makita lineup makes me wonder why I bought all of these Festool vacs. Some of my Makita tools are 15 years old or more and still work flawlessly.

Let's just say that I have invested 10's of thousands of dollars in festool products over the last 10 years and I am really disappointed in my dust collectors. :(

I am not willing to invest in a new garage just to be disappointed again.

Festool, if you read this, just know you have failed in a market where there is lots of competition.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Bob D. on January 01, 2022, 08:40 PM
Over 10 years, still going with the original hose garage [and fingers crossed  [big grin] ].
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Coen on January 02, 2022, 04:49 AM
I am not willing to invest in a new garage just to be disappointed again.

Festool, if you read this, just know you have failed in a market where there is lots of competition.

The new hose garage is a different design and stronger than the earlier version.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Cheese on January 02, 2022, 10:20 AM
15 year old CT 22...perfect
10 year old MIDI...cracked
3 year old MIDI I...perfect
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: mino on January 02, 2022, 10:34 AM
...
Looking at the Makita lineup makes me wonder why I bought all of these Festool vacs. Some of my Makita tools are 15 years old or more and still work flawlessly.
...
And I am pretty sure that some (most?) of your Festool stuff does work as well. Assuming is was serviced as any tool needs to be when parts get worn out.

Ref. garages, we do not have the problem with our non-Festool vacs either. Even the 15+ year old ones which had a motor replaced by now. Guess why ? None have internal accommodation for hose storage, let alone an equivalent of a Festool "garage" one can put systainers on. I am sure the HD vacs (unfortunately now out of sale) or the CT 15 would fare the same way. With no hose garage to grab by, there will be no hose garage to rip apart by doing so either.

I think a lot of people think that because one pays a lot, one will get a "lot of metal for his money". This generally holds when one compares cheapo plastic hobby tools without bearings to professional use stuff.
But moving from mid-range to high end, the ergonomics, including weight are important so there will be LESS material on top-of-the-line tools, not more. With Festool, one is paying for a Mercedes/BMW class product versus a Fiat. And, sometimes, versus a Toyota which will overlast the BMW with ease. But will never ride as one.

In some cases, the Mercedes *will* also last more, like the W124 series which were indestructible. But in other cases it will "just" be a better car while it runs. And one pays for that "better" in servicing costs as well as upfront. The parts are lower volume and more complex, hence more expensive the same as the car is. As it is difficult to manufacture them, there is also little non-original "cheapo" market for BMW parts ...


I am 100% that it would have been trivial for Festool to *design* an indestructible hose garage. But. But would people still buy the vacs if they were 5 pounds heavier for it ...

It looks in their original design, the went "too light" as apparently assumed it will not be used as a "handle". Current iteration they used a sturdier construction but still light.

We can feed back to Festool that we want "stronger even if heavier". But IMO that is a wrong feedback. Much better option would be a "stronger and bigger" garage as an aftermarket OPTION for those who need it while keeping the default as light as possible. Especially on the Mini/Midi which are site animals first.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Vondawg on January 02, 2022, 11:05 AM
Mini and midi out in the field @ eight years…pulled and yanked around, stood on and stacked toolboxes rolling here to there….(not super abused) even drilled a 2” hole for sys cyclone and still hangin tough,no cracks, my Fein and 23 live in the shop w/no problems but rarely move
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: acer66 on January 02, 2022, 12:27 PM
Have a midi for 5 or so years and it does get lugged around a lot onto job sites but there is some push and pull in the shop and it looks fine.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Crazyraceguy on January 02, 2022, 05:31 PM
My CT26 is only a little over 2 years old and it does spend most of its time in the shop, but it has gone out on a few kitchen remodels too. Never had a problem with it.
The company has another one that is a few months newer and it gets used pretty hard. The only issue it has is a broken cord wrap on one side. I have no idea how that happened though.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: leakyroof on January 12, 2022, 10:04 AM
Finally had to replace the Garage on my 36 Auto. I pulled the vac toward me and the plastic broke off in a fairly large piece. New Garage is def. different than the old design.
Title: Re: Does anyone have a vac with a hose garage intact?
Post by: Coen on January 12, 2022, 11:42 AM
My CT26 is only a little over 2 years old and it does spend most of its time in the shop, but it has gone out on a few kitchen remodels too. Never had a problem with it.
The company has another one that is a few months newer and it gets used pretty hard. The only issue it has is a broken cord wrap on one side. I have no idea how that happened though.

Yeah, post 2018 CT's with the new garage are not really prone to this failure.