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NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« on: February 25, 2020, 02:02 PM »
Festool USA is offering an opportunity to purchase the new STM 1800 for a limited time only.

Only available for pre-orders through April 12th, 2020! Order now, product ships October 1st, 2020.

Not available for purchase after the order deadline.

Pre-Order Now!


« Last Edit: February 26, 2020, 10:40 AM by Shane Holland »
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2020, 03:47 PM »
Is that something like $400 off?

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2020, 04:01 PM »
Is that something like $400 off?

Based on the price in Europe with currency conversion, yes.
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2020, 04:55 PM »
Wow, for that price I’d consider it a bit more seriously :)
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2020, 05:07 PM »
Yah, I had no plans on getting it but now I'm seriously thinking about it. I think I paid about over $150 for my Bora centipede that I currently use as a cutting table and this would be *WAY* easier to deal with.

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2020, 05:08 PM »
I would order one today, but 6 months before shipping, really takes the sizzle out of the product for me. 

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2020, 05:17 PM »
A Festool venture into the One-Time Tool category  [tongue]
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2020, 06:00 PM »
I would order one today, but 6 months before shipping, really takes the sizzle out of the product for me.

How do you think it is for us over here, waiting for Apple products  [scared] For what I know no store ever over here has even seen a HomePod.. [huh] Kidding a bit now [wink] Last June I backed San Francisco based Peak Design’s new travel tripod on Kickstarter, it was meant to be shipped dec 19... I’ve just received it.. a month after backing I kind of “forgot” about it. Only to “remember” in December to check in with Peak Design whether it is being shipped or delayed. Of course it was delayed.
By meaning if this is something you really can see a benefit in, it’s probably worth the wait. It is fun when shipping starts.. and the bill? You’ll probably have forgotten it by then - so it’s almost like a gift [blink] [big grin]
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2020, 06:29 PM »
Shane, when will we be charged?  At time of purchase or when it’s shipped?

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2020, 07:10 PM »
A Festool venture into the One-Time Tool category  [tongue]

...or testing the waters for how a ~$1000+ folding cutting station might sell were it to be made regularly available on this side of the pond. ;)
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2020, 07:26 PM »
This is an unusual approach for Festool USA, but in my mind it kinda makes sense to me.  Before you rate me as a fanboy, please let me finish.  As a reader here I have read complaints about non-availability of items.  Limited time items.  NAINA.

Festool USA has ordered in items over the years and depending on their forecasts some items have been available for either a short or a long time.  Always has been a junk shoot in my observation.

So now they are responding to the comments made to them and are willing to order in product with an upfront commitment.

The question I would have for @Festool USA is:  Is the table a tool or an accessory?

To @Festool USA - glad to see you guys looking outside the norm of years gone by.  Godspeed!  May this be successful and open the gates to similar offerings in the future with shorter delivery times.

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2020, 07:29 PM »
Oh, I'm totally for it if it is them trying out products that would normally be NAINA. Would have made getting the BS-75 a lot easier!
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2020, 07:45 PM »
When I thought it would roughly translate to $1500 USD I thought it was insane. Now that it is "only" $1000 it is much more palatable.

What a great way to market a product -

Throw out a crazy price
Let it be known it won't be in North America
Drop the price to $1000
Make it a limited time order

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2020, 08:10 PM »
A Festool venture into the One-Time Tool category  [tongue]

@PaulMarcel, I thought the exact same thing.  [big grin]

Shane, when will we be charged?  At time of purchase or when it’s shipped?

@NVA_WW if you order by credit card, yes, we bill when the order ships. If you order by Paypal, you are charged immediately. If you use our financing partner, Affirm, it's billed after 30 days in installments.

The question I would have for @Festool USA is:  Is the table a tool or an accessory?

@Peter Halle, it's considered an accessory. No 30-day money back guarantee if that matters to anyone.

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2020, 09:13 PM »
@Shane Holland, is FestoolUSA going to support the consumables?  In other words, what the video calls “interchangeable wooden coverings”, are they going to be available in North America?  It appears that the wooden coverings are meant to be cut into, like the MFT tops.  So will we be able to order spares?  Or are we going to be stuck with the original parts with no hope of replacement?

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2020, 09:16 PM »
@ADKMedic I doubt that Festool is going to offer those as a consumable at all in any country. I think the expectation is that folks will just rip down some lumber to make replacements as needed.

We can see if @Festool USA will confirm.
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2020, 09:49 PM »
I took a moment to look through the excellent manual for the STM 1800 [blink] and didn't see any information about being able to order replacement "wooden supports". Nor are they listed on the international Festool websites as accessories.

It mentions replacing them if they are damaged and can longer secure the workpiece. I think you'd have to chew them up over the course of a lot of cuts to them to get to that point. But again, easy enough to cut down some scraps to replace them. There are a few screws that hold them to the frame, easy to swap out.
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2020, 09:54 PM »
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Sounds like a great product. How much space will this take when it is folded up?

@vkumar folded dimensions are 45-1/4" x 9-7/8" x 27-1/2", listed on the product page of our website.
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2020, 10:08 PM »
I went ahead and reserved one, i desperately need a way to break down sheet goods in the small space i have at home.  It allows me to fold up when not in use, and it allows me to easily load a sheet.  I do like it but as usual i don’t understand the pricing or where it comes from.  But i still buy because i like all the products i own from them.


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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2020, 10:13 PM »
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Sounds like a great product. How much space will this take when it is folded up?

@vkumar folded dimensions are 45-1/4" x 9-7/8" x 27-1/2", listed on the product page of our website.

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2020, 10:16 PM »
I believe this would definitely be a plus for myself due to the fact that throwing around 3/4” plywood is a thing of the past. My question was the same that when is pymt made , but I see it’s been answered by Shane.
  Pricing is a little high but I prefer saving my body so I can work instead of sitting out a few days to recover from strains. I’m looking to place my order shortly. Oct 1st uggg.

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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2020, 10:26 PM »
Guys, I completely understand the agony of the long wait for October for delivery. Like I said, we don't bill until it ships, so it costs you nothing until it's on its way out the door.

I could easily see these becoming sought after by those who missed the opportunity to order during this short pre-order window.

I get where Festool USA is coming from with these being made-to-order. It brings a product that may otherwise not be available in the US into the hands of those who need this solution, as Peter pointed out. In the past, these would not have been available at all. I commend Festool USA for finding a way to make these a viable option to the U.S. market, if even in a limited way.
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2020, 10:48 PM »
This is hilarious ...brutalizing the messenger in imaginable ways.

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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2020, 11:30 PM »
This is hilarious ...brutalizing the messenger in imaginable ways.

It's Shane, we all know he deserves it. [big grin]

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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2020, 12:29 AM »
Is there anything unique about this N.A. model verses the Global model?  Trying to understand why it implies these are custom/special made for the N.A. market? Had to get covered in US mandated safety stickers?

I don't think it was clear either way when information on the STM 1800 came out that it wouldn't be offered in the US, so in a way it makes these offer a bit confusing, I think most folks expected it to come in time so in some ways this is anti-good news.

The price is definitely making this something to consider. 

If this wasn't going to be offered in the N.A. market, then it's nice to have a chance to get it, but it does bring up a lot of questions like why not just offer other things (especially non power tools) in the N.A. market?  I assume shipping containers of Festool stuff regularly are on ships bringing stuff, so it's hard to see there being a need to just make a shipment of them once. Which is in part why I ask if there is something altered about it for the US market.

It's not like they have to create anything other than maybe some import paperwork, thus why its odd/frustrating Festool doesn't offer up more things here. I can understand the concept that if you never offer something in a market, you don't have to set up support for it there, but once you offer it like this, why not just bring it out indefinitely?

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see a new offering here, it's just the questions it raises.  Lets face it there are lots of things I think folks would like to see such offerings for, like try offering 230V tools and see how many go for them (make life easier than trying to get them from Europe). Of course there are other things folks would like to see, or see return here.

I don't know if these are on sale in the EU market.  Is this possibly a path Festool is looking at to reduce the delay of products coming to the N.A. market?  Get them here in one big batch to launch instead of trickle in thru dealers.

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2020, 08:25 AM »
Is there anything unique about this N.A. model verses the Global model?  Trying to understand why it implies these are custom/special made for the N.A. market? Had to get covered in US mandated safety stickers?

@DeformedTree to my knowledge, nothing is specific to the North American market. It's the exact same model as Europe. At least nothing to was communicated by Festool USA. They would need to explain why they are offering this for a limited time versus making it a regular catalog item.
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2020, 08:35 AM »
I agree. Some decisions this company makes about promotions often fall short. How does this one time limited release at a lower price actually make any sense? Doesn't the reduced price and one time offer cancel each other out in terms of popular opinion? It also feels contrived which obviously it is so from the customer perspective one is not sure to trust the truly limited offering given the fact there is no reason for it. They may in fact offer it in the US albeit for a higher price. If they offered the table for a limited time at a lower promotional price with the intention of making it available in the US, then, yeah, that seems legitimate. But this just feels like a consumer manipulation.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2020, 08:46 AM »
I don't understand all the backlash. It makes perfect sense for them to do what they're doing. On the surface it appears they are seeing if there is enough demand in the U.S. market to support sales of an item that they otherwise would have kept NAINA. We're talking about a 75lb item that with packaging would take up a considerable amount of space on a shipping container if sent in bulk overseas. It doesn't make financial sense to send a bulk supply to the U.S. of such an item if they don't even know if it will sell here only to be forced to sell it at a steep discontinued discount 2 years from now or to ship it back to Europe.

Any speculation on the price and price 'discount' are just that - speculation. Not every tool sold in Europe directly translates to US pricing with current currency conversion rates. In fact they're usually vastly different. And take into consideration Europe is no longer allowed to price fix. There may be a buffer in the pricing scheme over there to allow dealers some wiggle room on providing discounts.

To me this is a welcome change from a company that has historically flat out refused to sell some items in the U.S. If it goes well for them maybe they will consider to offer more items in the future that we wouldn't otherwise be able to purchase without going through 3rd party outlets.

@Shane Holland Thank you for answering everyone's questions - even those that shouldn't have to be answered by you as you are no longer associated with corporate. It's a shame Festool's own appointed forum presence isn't more active.
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2020, 09:27 AM »
I'm with you DynaGlide...I applaud Festool for trying a different marketing approach. In the past this would have simply been a NAINA item and all we would be able to do is to carp about it.

This in some ways reminds me of the old Festool refurb program that everyone complained about (myself included) and then eventually Festool tried a different venue and the issues pretty much went away.

I consider it a positive and welcome step forward. Now if Festool would only make the same offer on a BS 75 or BS 105... [dead horse]

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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2020, 10:36 AM »
I agree. Some decisions this company makes about promotions often fall short. How does this one time limited release at a lower price actually make any sense? Doesn't the reduced price and one time offer cancel each other out in terms of popular opinion? It also feels contrived which obviously it is so from the customer perspective one is not sure to trust the truly limited offering given the fact there is no reason for it. They may in fact offer it in the US albeit for a higher price. If they offered the table for a limited time at a lower promotional price with the intention of making it available in the US, then, yeah, that seems legitimate. But this just feels like a consumer manipulation.

I'd imagine the margin on metal square stock, scrap wood, folding mechanism, (4) wheels and a few plastic pieces the margin is quite high. It's not returnable so they have to stock a few parts. It is great deal for anyone who wants one, but had no way to get one other than finding a retailer who would ship it to the US. The shipping cost would be brutal given the weight, maybe $150 or so.

I'm in and am glad they are offering it up.

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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2020, 10:50 AM »
This one time contracted batch order offering makes sense to me.

Festool designs and makes machines and tools.
This is neither and I’m pretty sure Festool is not making this welded steel thing.
I wonder if they even designed it?


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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2020, 12:22 PM »
I ordered one from from Anderson Ply. Talking to Don about pricing I told him it was cheaper here than in Europe. He said it could be they are making them here and shipping to Europe.

Dont know fer sure but it makes sense

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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2020, 02:28 PM »
I doubt this would be a limited time offering if they were being manufactured in the U.S. and shipped abroad.

This product isn't on the Festool dealer website currently which lists the country of manufacturer, so I can't confirm where it's made.
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2020, 08:41 PM »
Just placed my order but really could be using it now!
Maybe it will be ready before Oct 1st

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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2020, 11:17 AM »
I doubt this would be a limited time offering if they were being manufactured in the U.S. and shipped abroad.

This product isn't on the Festool dealer website currently which lists the country of manufacturer, so I can't confirm where it's made.

@Shane Holland

Another thing Don said was Festool might be using the preorders to help fund the production run.

Im thinking it could be also to determine interest in the US market. We are  very very large market

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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2020, 11:58 AM »
@DerickC can you tell us the country of origin for the STM 1800 being sold in the U.S. market? Thanks!
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2020, 01:52 PM »
@DerickC can you tell us the country of origin for the STM 1800 being sold in the U.S. market? Thanks!

@Shane Holland I was able to confirm that the STM-1800 is made in Germany.
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2020, 02:42 PM »
@Shane Holland out of curiosity, is this being dropped shipped directly from Festool?

The reason I ask is because I think the strategy of the preorder and limited order window probably have more to do with what happens once they arrive in the US rather than getting them to the US.

If they are drop shipping, it means they don't have to maintain significant stock, ship to resellers, guestimate demand, or be concerned about stock sitting at one reseller while all the others have none. (some of these apply to any preorder, but you get my point)

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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2020, 02:44 PM »
@Shane Holland out of curiosity, is this being dropped shipped directly from Festool?

@elfick Festool will not drop ship these.
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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2020, 04:33 PM »
I ended up pulling the trigger on one today after much trepidation.  Paying $1K for a cutting table didn’t make sense at first (still doesn’t) but what pushed me over the edge is how it can lift the sheet of material easily.  I’m a one man shop and the wife doesn’t like helping me with plywood, so I end up doing it myself most of the time.  I have two bad discs in my lower back and decided it justified the price. 

Unlike most folks here, I’m OK with waiting until October, as I won’t be doing any plywood work until then, so glad to pre-order now since my cc won’t be charged until delivery.

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« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2020, 04:40 PM »
Thanks for the order, @Gerald_D.

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« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2020, 03:30 PM »
Here's a look at the STM 1800 - PRE-ORDER NOW[cool]


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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2020, 07:06 PM »
Looks great! Ordered.

I wonder if it is stable enough to use with a router sled for flattening slabs too. Guess I'll find out in October.

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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2020, 10:43 PM »
I ordered mine also, and normally wouldn’t mind waiting, but I’m building a house and getting ready to build some cabinets and sure would be nice to have right now. I guess at least I’ll have it paid for by the time it arrives from The Tool Nut!

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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2020, 10:50 PM »
Really appreciate the orders, guys.  [not worthy]
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2020, 11:32 PM »
For anyone that uses a table like this, as opposed to dense foam, How is the underside of the cut with the TS saws? I have never not used foam, or something that provides full support, and so I assume that it wouldn’t be as clean, but I hope I’m wrong. I want one of these!

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2020, 02:15 PM »
For anyone that uses a table like this, as opposed to dense foam, How is the underside of the cut with the TS saws? I have never not used foam, or something that provides full support, and so I assume that it wouldn’t be as clean, but I hope I’m wrong. I want one of these!
I don't think it will affect the quality of cut, the blade is cutting upwards at the leading edge so it's cutting towards the rail strip and whatever the green thing is called, not towards the foam. It would affect your dust collection though, I expect the dust collection to be noticeably better with full support, but I would love to be wrong about that.

Offline jonnyrocket

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2020, 03:21 PM »
I don't think it will affect the quality of cut, the blade is cutting upwards at the leading edge so it's cutting towards the rail strip and whatever the green thing is called, not towards the foam.

This was my assumption as well but I haven’t ever tried it. I guess I have some test cuts to make tonight. :)


Offline SilviaS7

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2020, 08:35 PM »
Oh maaaaaaaan I totally want this.  I'm just a stupid hobbyist but I prefer working with sheet goods for now (baby woodworker here) and this table calls out to me, especially because I have limited space at home to work, so when I'm done I can fold this up.

Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2020, 05:59 AM »
So it seems Festool are saying to you guys across the water, we’re are making these available to you as a one time offer. Trouble is, you can’t get your hands on your ordered table until October  [blink] but, we’re knocking off $400 to make it easier to swallow?

I suppose it’s better them making a one time availability, as opposed to no availability at all.
It’s a strange state of affairs though, in this day and age, with all the technology we have and big ships and aeroplanes etc, that products are not available worldwide?

It does work both ways though, I often hanker after stuff from N.A. That is just not available to me.
Sometimes I can get around it by paying crazy shipping costs and duty, or I might ask one of my pals from N.A. to arrange something but, I don’t like to trouble them.

Not sure yet, how available Festool and other stuff from Europe will be to the U.K. after the end of December this year?

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2020, 08:01 AM »
Something to keep in mind. .I mentioned above but it hasn't been stated this is a deal or a sale. For all we know this could be the permanent pricing for the US if it becomes a stocked item. Or it could be $400, $800, etc more. Using UK pricing and converting to USD is just a guess and doesn't always work out considering they most likely price higher in Europe to allow for discounts vs US where dealers are not allowed to run independent promotions.

TLDR: I wouldn't jump on this because it's perceived as $400 off. Might leave a sour taste in peoples mouths if 6-12mo from now it's released at the same price as the pre-order offer.
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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2020, 10:18 AM »
For the time being you’re quite lucky...
Best price here is $1529. I have seen none intro pricing yet. ..Could hope it is surfacing one though [huh].
As a hobbyist, although a dedicated one, I see a lot of benefits in this table, and it was the one new product from FT I really liked. If I was a professional handling sheet material, in need for a collapsible lay out table, work table, assembly table that packs in a car or moved out of the way in the shop I would have jumped on the pre-order available here. I wish FT do a campaign in the same manner here and I would most likely jump on it.


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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2020, 12:23 PM »
@Jiggy Joiner

Im not sure why festool would make this a limited time offer. Im guessing maybe to see if there is the interest here.

I ordered one excited about getting it. Wish Id known about this before i had a architect draw up my new shop. I could of gotten away with a smaller one.

But never worry, Im quite sure I will use all the space and then some.

Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2020, 01:30 PM »
Hi Ron, yes them seeing if there’s any interest is a possible explanation but, if there was a big interest, how would they deal with it after saying it’s a one time offer?

Anyway, at least you’ll have plenty of room for yours in your new shop  [thumbs up]

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2020, 06:31 PM »
@Jiggy Joiner 

Good question, I dunno what they are going to do. Maybe raise the price in future sales after they do the research on this limited release. We have price fixing here not like the competitive price you have over there.

Offline jimbo51

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2020, 08:33 PM »
Remember that several of Woodpecker's One Time Tools have reappeared.

Back in the day when I had a nice income and a craving for the latest from Festool, I would have bought this table. Now I get my 3/4 (18mm) plywood cut to smaller pieces at the store. I can still handle sheet of 5.2 mm underlayment. This table would be overkill for that.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2020, 11:14 PM »
Anyone starting to re-think signing up for one of these now given events? I hadn't pulled the trigger yet. Now things have made this a much hard decision.


Offline xedos

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2020, 09:00 AM »
I don see how events have fundamentally changed a decesion like this. 

Presumably need / want / can afford it ; so get it.  Do you agonize the same over gasoline for your automobile?

While the recent events may influence how frequently or where you go for gas , your need and ability to pay hasn't changed. Same on the table.

If on the other hand you didn't really need or want one, but instead get caught up in the "hype" and collectability of the thing and were going to borrow to acquire it  -  and now have been given a reality check..............

well, that's a good thing. Right ?

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2020, 10:05 AM »
Events dont affect  me being a geezer.
This this helps my ability to easily remove ply from my truck and handle it, then rip it and load it on my MFT to cross cut and repeat.
 
This is designed for one person/single man shops.

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2020, 10:11 AM »
With a limited offering like this I think you’ll be able to easily flip it if you decide later that you don't want it. We've seen a lot of Festool limited items that resell on sites like eBay for more than their original price. Just something to consider if you're on the fence.
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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: NEW! Festool STM 1800 Mobile Sawing Table (US)
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2020, 01:57 PM »
The gas analogy makes zero sense...

Lots of folks are hunkering down for a long term, this isn't going away and unless you are retired, folks are going to be thinking about their income. Lots of folks won't be working for weeks-months and even if they wanted to work may not have clients/customers for a while.

It's a tool, it has a purpose, but very well is not what folks want to spend money on now as other things re-prioritize.  Also the consideration that the arrival date is probably going to change now. It might be something that would be great if folks had it during this time when lots of folks will be home looking for stuff to do. Of course then you get into the next issue of having a sweet cutting table but can't buy material to put on it to cut.

I hadn't placed my order yet, now I'm re-thinking it as my plans are changing.