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Offline PeterJJames13

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2019, 04:00 AM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #61 on: August 20, 2019, 08:54 AM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.


 [huh] - thought this was an open forum?

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2019, 10:00 AM »
I ordered the RAS on ToolNut but all the RAS paper was out of stock. Any chance you have more coming in soon. While I am asking, do folks have any RAS paper recommendations?


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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2019, 10:05 AM »
I ordered the RAS on ToolNut but all the RAS paper was out of stock. Any chance you have more coming in soon. While I am asking, do folks have any RAS paper recommendations?

@JimReed, yes, we have more abrasives on the way. We didn't anticipate the increased demand for sandpaper, which was our mistake. We should have a lot of it in stock around end of the week.

Saphir is great for stripping finishes, Rubin is best for bare wood shaping and sanding.
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2019, 01:07 PM »
Awesome, I will watch for the paper to be back in stock and thanks for the advice.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #65 on: August 20, 2019, 09:23 PM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.


 [huh] - thought this was an open forum?
Yeah I thought so also guess not. This is why I don't post much on here and will not post again about this subject. People seem to get upset about the stupidest things.     

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« Reply #66 on: August 20, 2019, 10:54 PM »
Awesome, I will watch for the paper to be back in stock and thanks for the advice.

Jim

I actually think saphir is the best for sculpting. Stuff lasts forever. 24 grit will really hog wood. Light touches is key with this sander. You will melt the hook &loop if you are aggressive. You will get the hang of using it after some practice.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2019, 12:06 AM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.

I agree, Shane has done way more to announce tool issues and tools that have been obsoleted than Festool corporate has ever done on this site. We hang around listening for the latest news on Festool tools and it's not Festool corporate that makes the announcements, but it's a third party that ALWAYS makes the announcements...what's with that? That actually obsoletes the need for a real Festool person to be actively engaged on the forum   

Foolish me...but I think that the information that Shane gives out freely and the time he spends posting on the forum, needs to be rewarded.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2019, 12:12 AM »
Options are nice, but why post on Shane and Tool Nuts thread when they contribute as much to this forum as they do? Maybe start a different post somewhere, but don't put it on their thread.


 [huh] - thought this was an open forum?

   It is in general an open forum.  As long as you are not another dealer you can post other dealer info in a dealers topic. But it may not be viewed as being particularly good form, regardless of who the dealer is.
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Yeah I thought so also guess not. This is why I don't post much on here and will not post again about this subject. People seem to get upset about the stupidest things.     

Hmm,  people seem to get upset about the stupidest things.

Seth

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2019, 12:15 AM »
When he worked for McFeely’s, Shane kept us informed (and more).
When he worked for Festool Shane kept us informed.
Now he works for ToolNut and is responsible for promoting several brands and he still breaks the news about Festool.

Three cheers for Shane!

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2019, 09:53 AM »
I didn't intend to cause issues with my comment.

I work hard to support my family and the families of my friends (aka colleagues) at Tool Nut. I've logged thousands of hours on this forum over the past 15 years. When I post something like this, I do so hoping that because we are bringing you the information, you would consider ordering from us. I'm not naive, I know that some of you have your go-to dealer of choice and will order from them.

It's a just a little bit of a kick in the nuggets when there's a link promoting another dealer in a thread that I start.

Apologies for causing the reaction with my prior comment.

Now... back to talking about tools.  [smile]
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2019, 01:07 PM »
   
 I'm no longer a dealer, so I figured it would be ok to post here - not that Shane needs me to defend him, but  I agree with Cheese, Seth, Michael and Shane.

 Shane has always gone above and beyond. This is an open forum, but posting in a dealer's thread about another's dealer's sale/promotion simply is discourteous and in bad taste. Something akin to walking into a Pep Boys brick and mortar and putting up an Autozone flyer on the wall, where you would be escorted to the door along with the flyers, instead of being mildly and politely chastised on a public forum
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2019, 01:32 PM »
Open forum, you can say what you want, others can say what they want. Nobody "owns" a thread.

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« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2019, 02:47 PM »
Open forum, you can say what you want, others can say what they want. Nobody "owns" a thread.

+1

(FYI - I have spent many of my tool budget $'s at ToolNut and with Bob. When I saw a post on another forum that the RAS was on clearance at Highland first thing I did was go to ToolNut to buy it. But, guess what, it was around $100 more to my door from ToolNut. Is there a reason it was less expensive at Highland first?)

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2019, 02:58 PM »
Is there a reason it was less expensive at Highland first?

@Mike Goetzke, always appreciate your business, sir.

Edit: Found the thread you referenced. It looks we originally had a higher price on that day (8/6).

Shane

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #75 on: August 22, 2019, 03:20 PM »
@Shane Holland

Looks like your RAS paper is back in stock but sanding pads seem to be back ordered - when do you expect to get them in?

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2019, 08:23 PM »
Bob And Shane rocks. Simply put. Both guys go out of their way to talk and promote Festool and their dealerships. Bob enjoy your retirement.
Shane has always been their answering questions and helping members out.
And that’s way I have purchase 80% of my tools from them.
I just put as a lot of boxes. 😀
Just ordered two more RAS. Additional one for me and one for my painter.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2019, 08:50 PM »
@Mike Goetzke, we have admittedly been struggling with the spike in demand for the RAS and its accessories. There are yet more pads on order and they will be in stock middle of next week or sooner. I would suggest anyone that's ordering from us go ahead and place your order to lock in inventory for your order. We do not charge your credit card until the product ships and you can cancel anytime. Apologies for the abnormal stock outs on our end.

@RJNeal, thanks for the kind words and the orders, sir. Much appreciated by all of us at Tool Nut.
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« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2019, 09:55 PM »
Just ordered two more RAS. Additional one for me and one for my painter.

Rick, I could become a painter.   [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
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« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2019, 07:26 AM »
O Cheese yes you can!😀

No, the painter has his own company and a good friend.
I’m just helping him out on thr order part.
But then again I need have a little work for him....
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2019, 05:05 PM »
Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

@Svar,

The Bosch 1250DEVS and Makita BO6500J are basically the same as the Rotex RO 150 in functionality.

We have both in stock, ready to ship.

@Svar -- Just announced today, new Bosch 5" and 6" multi-mode sanders coming next month.
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« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2019, 05:15 PM »
@Svar -- Just announced today, new Bosch 5" and 6" multi-mode sanders coming next month.
Looks great. Any guinea pigs... I mean, early adopters out there?  [popcorn]

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« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2019, 05:22 PM »
This new sander is the third generation of Bosch RO sanders. I have both the previous generations of Bosch multi-mode 6” sanders. My sample of the first gen suffered some electronic speed control issue that made it run slow so I bought the next gen. I’ve never bought a 6” Festool sander because the Bosch sander works fine. I actually think the longer body on the Bosch makes it easier to handle than the Festool 150 RO sander.

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2019, 04:15 PM »
Looks like this is temporarily out of stock again...

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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2019, 04:23 PM »
Looks like this is temporarily out of stock again...

@ScotF, yes, they’re going fast but more on the way. To reiterate. If you order with a credit card, we do not bill until it ships and it will reserve part of our next shipment for your order. We should have more by middle or end of the week.
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« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2019, 04:36 PM »
 [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

The one I ordered from you last weekend is supposed to be delivered on Monday...thanks for offering these at such a great deal!!

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« Reply #86 on: August 26, 2019, 09:56 AM »
@Shane Holland , the out of stock messages don't allow you to add the item to cart.  I'm not sure whether it's really OOS this time or you just need to work some magic on the back end so an order can be placed? 
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Re: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)
« Reply #87 on: August 26, 2019, 10:07 AM »
@Shane Holland , the out of stock messages don't allow you to add the item to cart.  I'm not sure whether it's really OOS this time or you just need to work some magic on the back end so an order can be placed?

@RKA

We have backorders blocked on this item to make sure we don't sell more than we have or can get. Additionally, I am manually managing the inventory to some extent rather than it being synced with our warehouse system.

We have units in stock ready-to-ship right now. More on the way. Sorry for the bad inventory on the website.
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« Reply #88 on: August 26, 2019, 11:20 AM »
Does RAS being discontinued mean that the sandpaper and accessories will be discontinued as well?
If so what are the options for the long term?

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« Reply #89 on: August 26, 2019, 11:22 AM »
Does RAS being discontinued mean that the sandpaper and accessories will be discontinued as well?
If so what are the options for the long term?

@safety1st, this was mentioned earlier in the thread. Festool USA stated the following:

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We are planning for long-term support of the pads and abrasives for the RAS 115 for the foreseeable future and as long as there is reasonable demand.

If they do discontinue abrasives at some point in the future, I see no reason why you couldn't use a generic 5" abrasive since there are no holes for dust extraction.
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