Author Topic: Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US) (Read 13433 times)

Rollin22Petes · « **Reply #30 on:** July 06, 2019, 10:44 AM »

Quote from: Peter Halle on July 06, 2019, 07:58 AM

Regarding the RAS: If you are on the fence - get one. I reached out and have been told that there is not a direct replacement in the works. Solid tool but lack of demand across the world is the reason. (Sidenote: Way back in 2009 during a visit to Festool a discussion was held with attendees and we were told that Germany wanted to know how we used our MFT's and RAS. The sales numbers for those were significantly higher here in the US than in the rest of the world. Also, while visiting the Festool connect event held in Lebanon back in 2017 there were pallet upon pallet upon pallet of RAS in the warehouse - and that is a whole lot of RAS based on the fact that they come in a Sys - 1 I believe. That will account of the older production dates on the tools.)

I have reached out for info on the backing pads and when and if I hear something back I will edit this post.

Peter

Thanks Peter & Shane hopefully we'll hear something soon. The availability of the pads would be my only reason for me not buying one.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #31 on:** July 09, 2019, 08:52 AM »

@Festool USA, can we get an official word on the availability of pads moving forward? Thanks.

leakyroof · « **Reply #32 on:** July 09, 2019, 11:12 AM »

Quote from: Shane Holland on July 09, 2019, 08:52 AM

@Festool USA, can we get an official word on the availability of pads moving forward? Thanks.

Thanks for pushing this Shane, as I noted in another RAS post, the pads are sort of the weak link of this tool if you're hard on them. So, it would be great if Festool is keeping them around another 5 years or so in support of the tool.[ longer would be even better...

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Bob D. · « **Reply #33 on:** July 09, 2019, 01:12 PM »

Well, I don't know about 5 years, the info that came with my RAS (just purchased last week) says 10 years for parts availability. I would take it that accessories are treated as parts and therefore available for 10 years after production stops. I'm guessing that June 2019 is being marked as the end of production/sales so the 10 year clock has started tricking.

ear3 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:44 PM »

Yeah, I'll probably just buy a couple of pads now to have in my back pocket. The velcro on mind is melted around the outer rim, though so far this hasn't really affected performance.
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Quote from: leakyroof on July 09, 2019, 11:12 AM

Quote from: Shane Holland on July 09, 2019, 08:52 AM
@Festool USA, can we get an official word on the availability of pads moving forward? Thanks.
Thanks for pushing this Shane, as I noted in another RAS post, the pads are sort of the weak link of this tool if you're hard on them. So, it would be great if Festool is keeping them around another 5 years or so in support of the tool.[ longer would be even better... ]

Shane Holland · « **Reply #35 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:47 PM »

So I reached out to Festool on this topic and the response was...

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We are planning for long-term support of the pads and abrasives for the RAS 115 for the foreseeable future and as long as there is reasonable demand.

leakyroof · « **Reply #36 on:** July 10, 2019, 03:25 PM »

Quote from: ear3 on July 10, 2019, 01:44 PM

Yeah, I'll probably just buy a couple of pads now to have in my back pocket. The velcro on mind is melted around the outer rim, though so far this hasn't really affected performance.
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Quote from: leakyroof on July 09, 2019, 11:12 AM
Quote from: Shane Holland on July 09, 2019, 08:52 AM
@Festool USA, can we get an official word on the availability of pads moving forward? Thanks.
Thanks for pushing this Shane, as I noted in another RAS post, the pads are sort of the weak link of this tool if you're hard on them. So, it would be great if Festool is keeping them around another 5 years or so in support of the tool.[ longer would be even better... ]

X2......

Alex · « **Reply #37 on:** July 10, 2019, 04:45 PM »

Quote from: leakyroof on July 09, 2019, 11:12 AM

as I noted in another RAS post, the pads are sort of the weak link of this tool if you're hard on them. So, it would be great if Festool is keeping them around another 5 years or so in support of the tool.[ longer would be even better... ]

Even if Festool won't sell them anymore you should not have to worry, they are readily available here in Europe as it's a standard and there are plenty of European tool websites who will ship to north America.

Bob D. · « **Reply #38 on:** July 10, 2019, 08:48 PM »

Quote from: Shane Holland on July 10, 2019, 01:47 PM

So I reached out to Festool on this topic and the response was...

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We are planning for long-term support of the pads and abrasives for the RAS 115 for the foreseeable future and as long as there is reasonable demand.

That's good to know, thanks Shane.

AndrewG · « **Reply #39 on:** July 10, 2019, 11:52 PM »

I’m also interested to know why the sysports are being discontinued? Maybe because the new systainers are coming out with different sizes etc, they’ll release a newer version?

Shane Holland · « **Reply #40 on:** July 11, 2019, 12:00 AM »

Quote from: AndrewG on July 10, 2019, 11:52 PM

I’m also interested to know why the sysports are being discontinued? Maybe because the new systainers are coming out with different sizes etc, they’ll release a newer version?

Festool rarely comments on these types of topics. I don't think we'll see replacements but I could be wrong. I think the SYS-AZ drawers are the replacement.

AndrewG · « **Reply #41 on:** July 11, 2019, 06:22 AM »

Makes sense thanks Shane.

Alanbach · « **Reply #42 on:** August 05, 2019, 08:12 PM »

Ok, I guess that I just hopped off the fence. I glanced at the Recon site just now and low and behold an RAS 115! Thanks for the help guys!

Shane Holland · « **Reply #43 on:** August 05, 2019, 08:18 PM »

Quote from: Alanbach on August 05, 2019, 08:12 PM

Ok, I guess that I just hopped off the fence. I glanced at the Recon site just now and low and behold an RAS 115! Thanks for the help guys!

Alanbach · « **Reply #44 on:** August 05, 2019, 08:48 PM »

I know! I’m sorry @Shane Holland . Don’t worry, I’ll buy all of my consumables from you.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #45 on:** August 18, 2019, 11:36 AM »

Save $105 instantly on the RAS 115 Sander at the Tool Nut, while supplies last!

Order Now!

Shane Holland · « **Reply #46 on:** August 18, 2019, 01:54 PM »

We sold out quickly of the RAS 115, but I just confirmed we have more that will be arriving on Monday or Tuesday. If you visited our website and couldn't order because it was out of stock, I've added inventory back to the site so you can now order it.

Sorry for the temporary out-of-stock message.

ScotF · « **Reply #47 on:** August 18, 2019, 03:47 PM »

That is a killer price - just put in my order - this is a critical tool for me and would hate to be without one if something happens to my original.

Svar · « **Reply #48 on:** August 18, 2019, 04:21 PM »

Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #49 on:** August 18, 2019, 04:25 PM »

Quote from: Svar on August 18, 2019, 04:21 PM

Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

@Svar,

The Bosch 1250DEVS and Makita BO6500J are basically the same as the Rotex RO 150 in functionality.

We have both in stock, ready to ship.

Cheese · « **Reply #50 on:** August 18, 2019, 04:48 PM »

Quote from: Svar on August 18, 2019, 04:21 PM

Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

It’s about disc speed, 600 rpm for the Rotex & 1500 rpm for the RAS.

Alex · « **Reply #51 on:** August 18, 2019, 05:22 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on August 18, 2019, 04:48 PM

Quote from: Svar on August 18, 2019, 04:21 PM
Doesn't Rotex or similar rotary sanders from Bosch or Makita perform the same function in rotary mode? Same as RAS 115.

It’s about disc speed, 600 rpm for the Rotex & 1500 rpm for the RAS.

You mean 3800 for the RAS.

It's a quite a difference. With the Rotex you still have to work hard to remove the paint. With the RAS, you just pet the paint and it's gone. If it were any faster, you'd take the wood along with it.

I still have my old RAS, darn fine sander but I'm sad because I can hardly use it anymore. People take too good care of their homes, I get no jobs anymore where the paint is so bad I have to use my RAS. It's a disgrace.

safety1st · « **Reply #52 on:** August 19, 2019, 10:31 AM »

Quote from: Shane Holland on August 18, 2019, 01:54 PM

We sold out quickly of the RAS 115, but I just confirmed we have more that will be arriving on Monday or Tuesday. If you visited our website and couldn't order because it was out of stock, I've added inventory back to the site so you can now order it.

Sorry for the temporary out-of-stock message.

Any more stock available? Website says out of stock.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #53 on:** August 19, 2019, 10:43 AM »

Quote from: safety1st on August 19, 2019, 10:31 AM

Any more stock available? Website says out of stock.

@safety1st, I had just updated the site. We have more on order that should be available next week. If you order now with a credit card, you will not be charged until it ships. Paypal orders are charged when the order is placed.

Cheese · « **Reply #54 on:** August 19, 2019, 11:19 AM »

Quote from: Alex on August 18, 2019, 05:22 PM

You mean 3800 for the RAS.

It's a quite a difference. With the Rotex you still have to work hard to remove the paint. With the RAS, you just pet the paint and it's gone. If it were any faster, you'd take the wood along with it.

I still have my old RAS, darn fine sander but I'm sad because I can hardly use it anymore. People take too good care of their homes, I get no jobs anymore where the paint is so bad I have to use my RAS. It's a disgrace.

Ya you're right Alex...

the funny part is that the 1500 rpm speed is directly from the Festool 2019 catalog.

Heads up - RAS 115 and Sysports Discontinued (US)

Svar · « **Reply #55 on:** August 19, 2019, 11:34 AM »

Quote from: Cheese on August 19, 2019, 11:19 AM

... the funny part is that the 1500 rpm speed is directly from the Festool 2019 catalog.

Two things with that catalog:
"idle engine speed" - I'd rather be interested in disk speed
"Click to compare ..." at the top of the page. This is a paper catalog!

Michael Kellough · « **Reply #56 on:** August 19, 2019, 11:55 AM »

Quote from: Svar on August 19, 2019, 11:34 AM

Quote from: Cheese on August 19, 2019, 11:19 AM
... the funny part is that the 1500 rpm speed is directly from the Festool 2019 catalog.
Two things with that catalog:
"idle engine speed" - I'd rather be interested in disk speed
"Click to compare ..." at the top of the page. This is a paper catalog!

Wonder what the mpg rating is for those “engines”.
At least they didn’t use the same photo for both sanders.

Rollin22Petes · « **Reply #57 on:** August 19, 2019, 08:22 PM »

Highland woodworking has them for $250 right now in stock.

Shane Holland · « **Reply #58 on:** August 19, 2019, 08:55 PM »

Quote from: Rollin22Petes on August 19, 2019, 08:22 PM

Highland woodworking has them for $250 right now in stock.

Highland is also not on the FOG giving you a heads up about this deal... Just sayin'. We really appreciate everyone who chooses Tool Nut as their Festool dealer of choice.

We have a better price at $225. Despite what our website currently says, we do have a few units on hand ready to ship tomorrow.

Rollin22Petes · « **Reply #59 on:** August 19, 2019, 09:52 PM »

Just thought I would be helpful to other members. Members post all the time about deals at other companies that aren't on here not sure why it would mater either way. Nice to have options.