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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2021, 07:51 AM »
Within its limits I've enjoyed owning the CMS-GE. For what it is designed to do it is great. There are times I wish I had a big fully setup Incra or Jessem table but for the reasons already mentioned in this thread, they aren't for me. I'd buy it again if I mine were to go missing. I didn't buy the CMS thinking it would do everything perfectly I've already accepted no tool is perfect out of the box and requires accessories/modifications to get the most out of it.

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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2021, 09:52 AM »
If anyone is near Fredericksburg VA there's been a lady with a CMS-GE for sale for several months. Her Facebook ad says no haggling must be why it hasn't sold.

https://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/tls/d/fredericksburg-festool-cms-ge-routing/7391736122.html
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Offline squall_line

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2021, 04:03 PM »
If anyone is near Fredericksburg VA there's been a lady with a CMS-GE for sale for several months. Her Facebook ad says no haggling must be why it hasn't sold.

https://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/tls/d/fredericksburg-festool-cms-ge-routing/7391736122.html

"No Haggling"

Reminds me of the old adage: "What's the cheapest thing on a BMW motorcycle?  The owner!"

That said, it's a pretty reasonable price, all things considered.

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2021, 04:13 PM »
If anyone is near Fredericksburg VA there's been a lady with a CMS-GE for sale for several months. Her Facebook ad says no haggling must be why it hasn't sold.

https://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/tls/d/fredericksburg-festool-cms-ge-routing/7391736122.html

Reminds me of the old adage: "What's the cheapest thing on a BMW motorcycle?  The owner!"


Hahaha  [big grin] Haven’t heard that one before [big grin]
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On the serious side, yes the price seems reasonable. In line with the few I’ve seen here, although there where a couple including an OF 1400 for $1000-1200.. those went within 3 min…
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Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2021, 08:17 PM »
My CMS-GE arrived from Hartville. I needed to watch the Festool video to see how to assemble the extension table; otherwise assembly was straightforward following the manual.

I installed the previously-purchased JessEm Clear Cut stock guides and much prefer them to the OEM guard/featherboard arrangement which makes it hard to see the cut. I've ordered Kapex crown stops with extensions and JessEm featherboards.

Dust collection is very good so far, except when routing a groove; in that case a little sawdust shoots out the open end.

So far I'm very pleased. Thanks to all who helped me make the decision to take the plunge.

Edited to add: I just moved the table and router to a different place in the garage. Portable in theory, but for an old man with a bad back not so much. Maybe I’ll have to build a cart for it if I don’t make permanent space for it. Or rig something up to use it with a dolly.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2021, 09:16 PM by Stan Tillinghast »
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Offline MrToolJunkie

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2021, 10:20 AM »
These are getting harder to find. I bought one from US Tool and Fastener this week and they told me this AM that they had 2 left. They actually shipped the pallet overnight air to the West Coast and hoping the local Roadrunner delivers in the next few days. That is ultra fast shipping.

I saw Beaver Tools lists it on its site as being available. Hartville has it, but at the higher price point.

Offline squall_line

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2021, 11:10 AM »
These are getting harder to find. I bought one from US Tool and Fastener this week and they told me this AM that they had 2 left. They actually shipped the pallet overnight air to the West Coast and hoping the local Roadrunner delivers in the next few days. That is ultra fast shipping.

I saw Beaver Tools lists it on its site as being available. Hartville has it, but at the higher price point.

If you buy it direct from Hartville's website, it's still normal price.  The higher price point is only on their Amazon store.

Or at least, that's how it was when I ordered from them.

Offline c_dwyer

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2021, 09:25 PM »
@Stan Tillinghast

You mentioned that you installed the previously-purchased JessEm Clear Cut stock guides and much prefer them to the OEM guard/featherboard arrangement which makes it hard to see the cut, and ordered Kapex crown stops with extensions and JessEm featherboards.

Could you please post pictures of that setup once you have everything in place? I'm also not a big fan of the stock featherboard on the CMS, especially after inadvertently taking out a small bite of the plastic.

Thank you!

Offline squall_line

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2021, 10:26 PM »
@Stan Tillinghast

You mentioned that you installed the previously-purchased JessEm Clear Cut stock guides and much prefer them to the OEM guard/featherboard arrangement which makes it hard to see the cut, and ordered Kapex crown stops with extensions and JessEm featherboards.

Could you please post pictures of that setup once you have everything in place? I'm also not a big fan of the stock featherboard on the CMS, especially after inadvertently taking out a small bite of the plastic.

Thank you!

@c_dwyer , I'm pretty sure he's referring to this post:

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/festoon-cms-vl-and-jessem-clear-cut-stock-guides/msg583092/#msg583092

Offline c_dwyer

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2021, 05:18 PM »
Thank you @squall_line !

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2021, 10:43 PM »
Yes, that’s the post. Thanks for responding, squall_line. The photos really clinched it for me. I have the Jessem feather boards, still waiting on the crown stops on order. The crown stops are pretty expensive, but have other advantages such as adding surface area to the router table, and of course their original use with the Kapex.
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Offline MrToolJunkie

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2021, 08:49 PM »
I checked and it looks like dealers that had these a week or so ago are all sold out now.  Still waiting on my delivery, hopefully early next week. Appreciate the heads up on this forum alerting me of this being discontinued.

Offline Darius

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2021, 04:28 PM »
Ordered from Hartville today, hopefully it ships! Any other retailers have it in stock?

Offline MrToolJunkie

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2021, 12:39 AM »
Well - it took 2 weeks to get here, but the giant box on a pallet arrived this afternoon. Did the basic assembly - man - is this a nice table. Best packaging on a tool I have seen in some time - everything was perfect out of the box. Kinda wish they used this same kind of packaging on the STM1800 tables. Super happy with the purchase so far - cannot wait to stick a router in there and fire it up. :)

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2021, 02:10 AM »
I installed the sliding table today but haven’t used it yet.
I have added the Jessem clear-cut stock guides and Jessem featherboards, and I’m going to like those.
I have the Woodpeckers micro-adjust device and have gotten ideas from other FOG threads on how to mount it to achieve both micro-adjustment of the fence and rapid movement of the fence for changing bits.
You guys have cost me a bundle—more than a very nice Jessem table with all the accoutrements.

But I canceled my Jessem order—too much trouble to go back now.  [big grin]
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Offline Cheese

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2021, 08:59 AM »
I have the Woodpeckers micro-adjust device and have gotten ideas from other FOG threads on how to mount it to achieve both micro-adjustment of the fence and rapid movement of the fence for changing bits.

I'd be interested in some photos on your mounting of the Woodpeckers micro-adjust.  [cool]

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2021, 09:07 AM »
I have the Woodpeckers micro-adjust device and have gotten ideas from other FOG threads on how to mount it to achieve both micro-adjustment of the fence and rapid movement of the fence for changing bits.

I'd be interested in some photos on your mounting of the Woodpeckers micro-adjust.  [cool]







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Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2021, 12:23 PM »
Mine ain’t mounted yet, Cheese. I’ll probably go with the plywood base for the T-tracks, screwed to the crown stop base.
I’m looking into an aluminum channel to connect the micro-adjuster to the fence back.
If anyone can tell me what size aluminum channel they used that would save me a little trouble.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2021, 08:33 AM »
Thanks for the videos Tom...did you have to modify the Woodpeckers red knob to use it for a driver?

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2021, 09:19 AM »
For anyone still looking for a CMS GE, we just got a small shipment, while supplies last.

If our website says "in stock", we still have some. If the add-to-cart button is missing, we are sold out.

https://www.toolnut.com/festool-203158-cms-ge-router-table-set.html

Please tag me with @Shane Holland if you have a question or email me at shane@toolnut.com.

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Offline Darius

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2021, 10:34 PM »
For anyone still looking for a CMS GE, we just got a small shipment, while supplies last.

If our website says "in stock", we still have some. If the add-to-cart button is missing, we are sold out.

https://www.toolnut.com/festool-203158-cms-ge-router-table-set.html

Please tag me with @Shane Holland if you have a question or email me at shane@toolnut.com.

Thanks,
Shane

Was checking everyday, and had no hopes you would guys get it back in stock, and ordered from hartville! First time not ordering from you guys! So upset now lol

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2021, 12:06 AM »
tjb—that thought occurred to me ( injecting the shaft to a drill.
How well does it work?
Do you still need the T -track if using the drill for macro-adjustment?
And as Cheese asked, how did you modify the end knob?
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Offline batmanimal

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2022, 06:17 PM »
I was poking around the stock room of my favorite Festool dealer (as one does), and stumbled across a massive box in the corner behind a stack of CTs. After shifting some stuff around, I found the label: CMS GE SET.   :o

It is now in my garage in various boxes. I couldn’t fit the main box in my car (it’s massive - 48x40x30), but luckily was able to get all the smaller boxes out of it and packed up without issue.

They had one more left as of this morning, if anyone is in the PNW. Store is Woodcrafters in Portland. (I came in for a hose, left with a router table. It’s that kind of place.)

Sadly, I found no Vac Sys back there, that would have been a real miracle!

Anyway, these units are still floating around, it seems, so worth calling local dealers if you’re looking for it.

Offline Cheese

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Re: CMS Router Table Officially Discontinued in US Market
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2022, 10:39 PM »
I was poking around the stock room of my favorite Festool dealer (as one does), and stumbled across a massive box in the corner behind a stack of CTs. After shifting some stuff around, I found the label: CMS GE SET.   :o

Anyway, these units are still floating around, it seems, so worth calling local dealers if you’re looking for it.

Ya that's funny...time was when when hunting/looking for garage finds centered around that Cobra, GTO or a Corvette that was secreted away in some barn or garage...now the common denominator is some Festool gear.  My-oh-my, how times have changed.  [smile]

Good score though, it's a nice piece of equipment.  [smile]
« Last Edit: January 29, 2022, 10:45 PM by Cheese »