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Offline ryanwichman

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2020, 10:09 PM »
@Alanbach I, like you, have not seen any damage done to the sacrificial strip on any of my three rails. If you look closely when the rails are in the Track Rack, the aluminum edge is what is touching the plastic, not the sacrificial strip. I've kept my horizontal, strips down in my Track Racks for months now and have had ZERO problems.

Regarding the Best Fence, I'm glad you like it! It sounds like it has really worked out well for you. Nothing like having the ability to make accurate and repeatable cuts!

Ryan

Edit: Correction to my original post. When I looked at my rails again sitting in the Track Rack, they were resting on the strip. However, I have had them like that since August and have not witnessed any sort of issues. I'm sure time will tell if this will be a problem but right now I don't have a reason to believe that it will be.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2020, 04:11 PM by ryanwichman »

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Offline pettyconstruction

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2020, 11:23 PM »
I have a 75” rail in one , it is on my garage door, and haven’t had a problem with the splinter guard. Yet
The only time I have had a problem with my splinter guards is from the heat .
Charlie


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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2020, 10:38 PM »
Oh no - my anti-chip edges are showing very noticeable deformation and they haven’t been through a hot summer yet. My rails are Makita but don’t think they are much different than Festool design. I have 39”, 55”, 75”, and 118” and all show deformation.

Not very happy about this.  [mad]

For now I found if I tighten the screws tighter the clamps will hold the rail up but don’t know for how long. Plus sort of defeats the simplicity of the design if I need to loosen then tighten them up all the time.

Some say in place the rubber anti-chip doesn’t touch on the bottom - I don’t see how this is possible (at least with my rails).

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Offline Alanbach

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2020, 10:51 PM »
You can install the track racks upside down. You just have to be a little more careful when you put the tracks in or take them out as they are more prone to slip out from the upside down position, at least until you get them locked in.

Offline Don T

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2020, 12:53 AM »
I thought that having the track rest on the rubber edge was bad idea. So I made my own with the track resting on the metal side. They work great.
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2020, 09:44 AM »
I thought that having the track rest on the rubber edge was bad idea. So I made my own with the track resting on the metal side. They work great.

I was ready to build my own but after seeing the Track Rack I decided to purchase them. I too was worried about the rubber edge before I ordered them since I was going to mount them on my garage door but read others didn't have issues.

Wonder the reason they were designed for rubber edge down - would have been just as easy to have it the other way around?

I'm loving the convenience of this storage method but doesn't seem to work with rubber side down. I'm storing my TSO Squares and TPG hardware on the rails so just flipping them over is a big job.

I had a Festool rail in the past - as I recall it had a clear plastic anti-chip? Maybe not as pliable as rubber?


Mike

Offline ryanwichman

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2020, 09:31 AM »
So I would like to weigh in here. I put a Makita splintergaurd on 55" rail and it appears that mine has moved as well. As seen in the photo below, because I didn't but up the splintergaurd against the small edge that exists on the extrusion, it was allowed to move. I have not seen this issue on any of my Festool rails, oddly enough. I'm wondering if the adhesive on the Festool splintergaurds is actually a bit stronger. Since the Makita splintergaurds are cheapish, I'm going to buy another one and when I install it, I'm going to make sure it is but up against that edge so that it cannot move when it sits in the Track Rack.

Also, the orientation is completely up to you. You can easily mount these the other way around and have the rails rest on the metal edge. Flipping the Track Racks 180 degrees will not affect their functionality at all and I may flip mine if the new rubber Makita splintergaurd gets deformed. My Festool tracks lasted a year with no issues on a south facing garage door in Florida...

Ryan

« Last Edit: April 14, 2020, 09:36 AM by ryanwichman »

Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2020, 09:57 AM »
@ryanwichman

Thanks for the info - I was wondering if the Festool edge was stiffer.

I ended up flipping mine 180 deg. as suggested seems like it will work but definitely would be better to have the latch at the top.

I just can't imagine the reason they didn't design it to not have the rail rest on the anti-splinter. Only thing i could think of is the Festool/Makita logos are upside down with the anti-splinter facing up.

Mike

Offline ryanwichman

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2020, 10:37 AM »
No problem! I'm thinking the design was such that the bottom comes to a V and was supposed to catch the aluminum before the splintergaurd, suspending it at the bottom, if that makes sense. Maybe there was an oversight in the execution or manufacturing process. It could also be that it was designed around the Festool rail and no deformation existed on that splintergaurd so they assumed it wouldn't be an issue with other brands. I'm wondering, if there is a small foam strip at the very bottom if that would prevent the deformation we're seeing.

Ryan

Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2020, 01:21 PM »
Has anyone tried contacting FastCap about the problem/flaw with having the splinterguard down?  FastCap is all about continuous improvement so I'm sure they'd love to hear real world feedback.  I'm pretty sure they'd fix the design to eliminate the problem once they became aware of it.
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2020, 01:54 PM »
Has anyone tried contacting FastCap about the problem/flaw with having the splinterguard down?  FastCap is all about continuous improvement so I'm sure they'd love to hear real world feedback.  I'm pretty sure they'd fix the design to eliminate the problem once they became aware of it.

I did just that giving them a heads up. They were very concerned and wanted full details.

Mike

Offline ryanwichman

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2020, 02:15 PM »
I'm sure they appreciate the feedback. One of the best things about FastCap as a company is they will give you your money back if you aren't satisfied. If they really aren't working for you, you could always go that route.

Ryan

Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2020, 02:20 PM »
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Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2020, 01:04 PM »
FastCap posted a YouTube video regarding the Track Rack: .
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2020, 02:33 PM »
FastCap posted a YouTube video regarding the Track Rack:

Wow that was quick I just mentioned the possible solution of flipping them (suggested in this thread) over couple days ago!

BTW - in my case three of my 4 rails I was able to use the same holes to flip them over. One I had to redrill because I store my TSO squares on it.


Mike

Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2020, 02:47 PM »
I have been going back and forth on whether to get these or make something.  I just checked their shipping.  I don't really understand why ordering 1 set costs 5.75 to ship and ordering 2 is 14.90 ??? Thats some weird math.  These are plastic right?  And don't weigh much at all ?

Offline Don T

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2020, 04:26 PM »
They are really easy to make.
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Offline TSO_Products

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2020, 03:24 PM »
I have been going back and forth on whether to get these or make something.  I just checked their shipping.  I don't really understand why ordering 1 set costs 5.75 to ship and ordering 2 is 14.90 ??? That's some weird math.  These are plastic right?  And don't weigh much at all ?

@Rick Herrick - I noticed your comment regarding shipping cost variances in an earlier post.

Shipping and shipping cost is a big challenge to any online seller and more complex than you would want to know.
Perhaps its helpful in this forum to shed a little bit of light on shipping.

"SHIPPING is FREE ! " - or is it? 
AMAZON has gone a long way to create that expectation aided by driving down what they pay their suppliers, partners and employees according to news reports.

For smaller volume shippers like ourselves, shipping cost is determined by an algorithm determined by our shipping software. It is a function of the package weight and dimensions  programmed into our warehouse management system for every single one of all our SKU's.

A separate Shipper software application links to our e-store application at the time the order is placed and adds the calculated cost to the order at checkout.

It is one of our continuing frustrations that we have not found a Shipper Application which prevents goofy and sometimes outrageous charges - not infrequently to our disadvantage in terms of out-of-pocket cost but also in terms of customer irritation at other times.

In the case of the popular Track Rack, one item may fit into a small Postal Service category package for shipping while two items bump it out of a cost advantaged category.

BTW: of all the different shipping modes we have tried, using the SurePost or SmartPost  UPS or FedEx /Postal Service combination has earned us customer dissatisfaction outweighing the customer the customer cost benefit. The same holds true for Postal Service and Priority Mail. We have gone the dependability versus low-cost route and ship only UPS or FedEx.

We sincerely solicit input regarding known Shipping software. We are already paying hefty monthly SAAS fees.

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2020, 08:01 PM »
I have been going back and forth on whether to get these or make something.  I just checked their shipping.  I don't really understand why ordering 1 set costs 5.75 to ship and ordering 2 is 14.90 ??? Thats some weird math.  These are plastic right?  And don't weigh much at all ?
Was that the shipping cost ordered directly from Fastcap?
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Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2020, 11:06 PM »
Was that the shipping cost ordered directly from Fastcap?
Yes.

I understand Han's statement but in this case, it would cheaper to order QTY=1, twice, which shouldn't have to be done.  I didn't want to beat it to death but I thought the comparison was weird and shipping costs has always been a pet peeve of mine. 

Offline marly

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2021, 12:08 AM »
Hate to dig up such an old thread, but I was thinking of getting some of these fastcap track racks. I want to mount the fs/3000 to it and seems like this would work perfect for it. I do have an insulated garage door. Is there anything I should be aware of before I screw them to to the door (other than making sure the screw doesn't go all the way through).

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2021, 03:35 AM »
Hate to dig up such an old thread, but I was thinking of getting some of these fastcap track racks. I want to mount the fs/3000 to it and seems like this would work perfect for it. I do have an insulated garage door. Is there anything I should be aware of before I screw them to to the door (other than making sure the screw doesn't go all the way through).
Might want to plan to get the garage door spring readjusted after the weight increase. Also with the 3000 being so long you might want to use three or four of these for that track.
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Offline fritter63

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Re: Track Rack
« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2021, 09:11 PM »
Here's how I use mine: