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Offline Sean KS

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Smart innovations on MFT
« on: July 17, 2019, 12:34 PM »
There's always a fair amount of discussion around maximizing MFTs. I stumbled across this version the other day and there's a lot of nuggets in its design and execution. The design of the hinged guide rail bracket looks to really improve functionality in stability and repeatability. In the video it looks like there's a hold down clamp that attaches to the outboard cross cut fence (maximizes the table width), I've never seen an MFT have a clamp like that before, really cool. I like the overall size, shape, and rigidity; you don't see these dimensions often for portable units, but it seems to make the most sense to me. I cook for a living, and have never installed a door, but the little support brackets for the t-tracks on the legs look really handy for people who do. Anyways, pretty smart/inspiring stuff going on with this MFT.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW2e6b93mrk&feature=youtu.be
www.dashboardpws.com

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Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2019, 01:31 PM »
Yes it’s a real nice bench, Rob, the designer of it is a member here  [thumbs up]

Offline George Oliver

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2019, 11:45 PM »
That does look quite useful. Its overall size is the same as the work tables (on sawhorses) we use onsite, a size I've found to be the best balancing footprint vs. functionality (we do use mainly 4x8 tables in our shop).

I wonder what price point they're shooting for?

Offline Vondawg

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2019, 07:45 AM »
Has anyone signed on to the 100 needed to start production and what is the cost?
There are no mistakes....just new designs.

Offline Pancha

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2019, 02:57 PM »
Rob is an amazing and stand up guy.  I’ve been beta-testing the Dashboard and it’s accessories for over two years both in the field and in my shop.  I can tell you it has no equal and I can’t imagine working without it.  If you have questions about his product I recommend you contact him via his website.  If you would like to talk to someone who has been using the Dashboard every day for years.  You are more than welcome to contact me through my Instagram @acomitaws or email CameronTrujillo@acomitaworkshop.com.        Also...  I don’t get kickbacks, I’m not on payroll, I have not been compensated in any way.  Thisn’t an advertisement or marketing loophole.  I paid for my tables.  Rob is my friend and I love what he made.  That is all.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 03:29 PM by Pancha »

Offline c_dwyer

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2019, 02:18 PM »
I tried a few times to send a note of interest in being an early adopter, but the link (send) button doesn't seem to be working.

If anyone can reach out to Rob and let him know to check out the link, we'd both probably appreciate it.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2019, 02:46 PM »
It is a very interesting work table. If the price is not too high it could be detrimental to sales of the Festool MFT. Therefore, Rob is not permitted to promote his table in this Festool owned forum.

This thread is walking a fine line and posting Rob’s email address might cause the thread to be deleted. Send me a PM if you want his address.

Offline Dane

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2019, 10:44 PM »
I signed up on the website and got an emailed response.  You might check your spam filter. Sounds like they might be a ways out from production.

Offline nw60312

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2019, 05:27 PM »
I was fortunate to be local and picked up one of these recently. Just got to really use it for the first time this week. I can't compare to the MFT, but so far it has been a huge upgrade for me and a VERY well thought out product!!! I am a very happy camper and would highly recommend both the bench and working with Rob.

Offline nw60312

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2019, 11:38 PM »
I got an update from Rob to use the long rail for full 96" rips with the dashboard. Second picture shows how the rail gets squared up to the grid. Should be knocking out some passage door panels on it in a few days.

-Nate


« Last Edit: September 24, 2019, 11:41 PM by nw60312 »

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2019, 05:11 AM »
Some great ideas in the system, but I would never give up the heavy duty woodworking vise I added to my dual MFT. I use that vise constantly. The extension with its heavy steel legs steadies my MFT enough to allow hand sawing. My vise extension connects to the main MFT much as the saw attaches in the video.
Birdhunter

Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2019, 10:34 AM »
Nice job Rob!

I was into Eurekazone for over 15 years and recently converted to Festool/Makita. Rob's design reminds me of the Eurekazone EZ-1 bench but includes some innovations that would have made the EZ-1 a successful product. This look like a winner.

Mike

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2019, 12:22 PM »
I’m looking forward to the production model. And learning the price.

Offline fshanno

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2019, 01:08 AM »
Love it!  A lot of great ideas!  I don't have an MFT 3, I'm still using the old rig.  So I'm giving it a real hard look.  So I replied.

I really need the entire work surface to be sacrificial.  That's a very nice top but HDF would be better for me.  So that could be a nice option.  Buy it with the fine plywood top or the sacrificial HDF top.  Screwed from below instead of from above.

And that leads to the next thing.  A table that big with an HDF top needs wheels.  The Kreg table has wheels, the MW 1000 has wheels, this new system needs wheels too.  Guys this creative out to be able to figure that out.








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Offline Francis_Beland

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2019, 02:12 PM »
I contacted Rob, not for the entire table but only for his rail brackets that uses regular t-tracks. He fabricated some and posted them on his Etsy store if you're interested. I haven't seen any other person or company doing 3rd party rail brackets. I can't wait to try them.

Offline Big Taco

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2019, 03:40 PM »
What's the name of his Etsy store?

Offline Dane

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2019, 06:45 PM »
I found it by just going to Etsy and searching “festool”

Offline DaveyR

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2019, 08:53 PM »
RightAngleDesign

Is the store name.

Offline nw60312

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2019, 11:14 PM »
I did my first long cuts today and very happy with the results.

Needed to true up edge on some door stiles and rails.

Used a single dog and a couple of depth stops to keep the workpiece lined up with rail.

The rail then gets locked in at the ends in the track-stars.

For the rails that were wider than the track, the cuts come out as dead-on as I can measure. For the rails that are narrower than the track I replaced the black supports with scrap stock and that worked better than what I shot pictures of for keeping the cut square.

I general I am thrilled with this setup for long cuts. I few more tweaks in my setup and I expect this to be solid, stable, and very fast to set up!!
« Last Edit: October 13, 2019, 11:18 PM by nw60312 »

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2019, 11:01 AM »
@nw60312  what can you tell us about the black brackets supporting the side of the rail? Are they something you made?

Offline nw60312

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2019, 11:19 AM »
These are the brackets I was trying: https://precisiondogs.us/collections/frontpage/products/varibracket

Not what they were intended for, but one of the cool things with all the tracks being the same....


Offline Artthetoolman

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2020, 06:42 PM »
   I bought a Dashboard and received it about February 20th.    After only 2 1/2 months of experience with the Dashboard, I wouldn’t want to be without it.     
Because I own 2 MFT’s  and have built a modified Paulk bench (3 feet x 6 feet), I was reluctant to buy another bench.    After watching the videos at www.dashboardpws.com, I was most impressed and jumped at the offer to buy a early unit.   
It is obvious that the Dashboard was designed by a carpenter; all the frustrations I have experienced with the other benches have been worked out.
Here’s what I love about it most:
1)  it is rocksolid with no wobble
2)  all four legs are adjustable to easily set it up on uneven ground
3) The door/panel supports make it effortless to put doors at a comfortable working height for mortising hinges
4) The fence provides continuous support of the stock, even directly behind the guide rail.   (This is true as long as the stock is 3/16 of an inch or thicker .    The guide rail support hinge needs to be lowered for stock less than 3/16 of an inch).
5) The guide rail hinge and front support is a precisely machined marvel.     The guide rail support bracket and hinge is also available separately for homemade benches .
6)  Setting up the guide rail to be square to the fence couldn’t be simpler. It literally only takes a few seconds and requires no fuss. I found it to be 100% dead on.     Rob Schumacher (master mind behind the Dashboard)  has developed an ingenious method for squaring the fence.     
7) It is lightweight, about 45 pounds, and has a large tabletop, 24 x 93 inches.   I’m a tall,skinny guy and I have no difficulty moving it around.   

Rob Schumaker is a model entrepreneur.  He has high integrity and offers first class support for the dashboard and is an absolute pleasure to deal with.   

In summary, I highly recommend everyone who is interested in a high-performance workbench to check out the dashboard.     I have a very well-equipped workshop, the  Dashboard is undoubtably one of the best investments I’ve made in tools.   

 Disclosure: I paid full price for my dashboard and have no financial interest. I did not know Rob until I bought a dashboard. The reason behind this post is simply because I have found this bench to be such a solid improvement to my workflow  and highly recommend it to all those routinely work with wood .


 Should anyone have any particular questions or thoughts, feel free to message me here.     




Offline ChuckM

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2020, 07:13 PM »
Between the dashboard ($1300 US) and STM1800 ($1300 Cdn), if I were in the market for another shop toy, I'd go with the dashboard given its versatile and precision features, even though it'd cost more.

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Re: Smart innovations on MFT
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2020, 05:26 PM »
These are the brackets I was trying: https://precisiondogs.us/collections/frontpage/products/varibracket

Not what they were intended for, but one of the cool things with all the tracks being the same....

Just to clarify, our Varibrackets were designed as the support brackets for Incra T-track plus extrusions and Precision Parallel Guides. They can be used as a support for a Track saw if you switch a Knob that secures Vari bracket to extrusion with a 1/4"-20 thread screw (0.75" length). All our Varibrackets come with these screws now, but for those who purchased them prior these screws can be picked up in any hardware store with your choice of drive ( panhead, hex, etc)


On another note, I did have a pleasure to interact with Rob from Dashboardpws a few times and its ongoing. Though I am not a user of his system, but we do collaborate. Seeing how passionate and attentive to details he is is inspiring. A real pleasure to deal with!
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