Author Topic: MFTC portable workshop (Read 990227 times)

elimelech12 · « **Reply #120 on:** July 14, 2013, 06:55 PM »

Hey, I'm wondering if there's a US parts list yet...I've been digging everywhere and I'm trying to put together my own before I begin the build.

So far I've got

T track for ptreeusa.com #1018

Slides leevalley.com touch open slides

Feet

I've found one camar distributor petermeier.com but they don't carry the 323 series. They carry the 343 and 345 series but I can't seem to find the diameter for either of them.

Wheels?

Maybe someone can fill in the blanks

threedots · « **Reply #121 on:** July 15, 2013, 01:36 PM »

@elimelech12,

the wheels shouldn't be a problem. In worst case you can use the orignal festool wheels for the ct vacs from frestool ekat.

The Camar legs of series 323 are also a problem in germany. A request to the german camar division is still unanswered. As an alternative I'm focussing M8 height adjustable feet with corresponding stop nuts (this is the goolgle translation for the german Schlagmutter).

mohrab · « **Reply #122 on:** July 15, 2013, 04:00 PM »

I just bought some 8" wheels from ACE hardware. However, I don't plan to use my MFTC that much off-site, so weight isn't that much of a concern. You might try Grainger Supply

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=8%22+Wheels&op=search&Ntt=8%22+Wheels&N=0&GlobalSearch=true&sst=subsetfor wheels

It might be best to call them and ask for help finding the lightest 8" wheel - they have too many choices!

I found that the Peach Tree T-track is deeper and wider than the MFTC plans call for. Therefore I would use a wood/metal glue when installing the T-track to provide additional surface area for gluing.

elimelech12 · « **Reply #123 on:** July 16, 2013, 08:03 PM »

Quote from: threedots on July 15, 2013, 01:36 PM

@elimelech12,

the wheels shouldn't be a problem. In worst case you can use the orignal festool wheels for the ct vacs from frestool ekat.

The Camar legs of series 323 are also a problem in germany. A request to the german camar division is still unanswered. As an alternative I'm focussing M8 height adjustable feet with corresponding stop nuts (this is the goolgle translation for the german Schlagmutter).

I was able to find a camar dealer here in the US but I believe they only sell in bulk 345-10-02 are the ones I wanted to use and they are all 28mm OD.

Also has anyone tried building the carcass out of 12mm mdf? I know there was a question about the availability of it in the US. If any one is in NY/NJ, Larkin Lumber carries Ultralite MDF in metric.

elimelech12 · « **Reply #124 on:** July 16, 2013, 08:21 PM »

Quote from: mohrab on July 15, 2013, 04:00 PM

I found that the Peach Tree T-track is deeper and wider than the MFTC plans call for. Therefore I would use a wood/metal glue when installing the T-track to provide additional surface area for gluing.

Thats a good point....hmmm... $:-\$ ...what are you using?

mohrab · « **Reply #125 on:** July 16, 2013, 09:59 PM »

I did use the Peachtree T-track but routed the 3/4" rail first for the added depth and then glued the 1/2" outer piece in two pieces. I did not use wood/metal glue to attach the rail but just wished I had afterwards. Seems pretty solid but I haven't attached the top yet. Just finished drilling holes. I cut it oversize and will trim it to fit the frame opening.

You can find the Camar legs at cabinet parts.com.

I plan to try something different from Lee Valley: http://www.leevalley.com/US/hardware/Page.aspx?p=70815&cat=3,40993,41283

Haven't received them yet, if they don't work I plan to use some standard levelers that I purchased from Woodcraft.

elimelech12 · « **Reply #126 on:** July 17, 2013, 02:57 PM »

Does anyone think building the carcass out of 12mm Mdf would present problem?

GhostFist · « **Reply #127 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:35 PM »

http://www.closet-masters.net/camarcomoleg2diaadjustablefoot.aspx

elimelech12 · « **Reply #128 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:53 PM »

Quote from: GhostFist on July 17, 2013, 04:35 PM

http://www.closet-masters.net/camarcomoleg2diaadjustablefoot.aspx

I saw those but they are way too wide...the other camar are 28mm

threedots · « **Reply #129 on:** July 19, 2013, 12:37 PM »

Hi elimelech12,

here's an alternative which only needs 14mm (equals 0.55") holes.

Peter Meier furniture legs

elimelech12 · « **Reply #130 on:** July 19, 2013, 03:09 PM »

those would do but seems like a pain to adjust.

elimelech12 · « **Reply #131 on:** July 19, 2013, 10:01 PM »

I actually got in contact with the guys at Peter Meier and although they sell bulk they said they would send me 8...I'm gonna go with the camar 443-10-p2...they are $1.60 a piece

Timtool · « **Reply #132 on:** July 20, 2013, 06:46 AM »

Sorry for not being active lately, the harvest has begun so i spend most of my time driving a combine!

Quote from: elimelech12 on July 17, 2013, 02:57 PM

Does anyone think building the carcass out of 12mm Mdf would present problem?

I have both an imperial and metric version of the MFTC plans,
In the imperial plans i adapted everything to use imperial sized sheet goods, so instead of 12mm you have 12.7mm, so you can use imperial materials.
if however you got the metric plan for some reason then just mail me and i can send you the imperial version (the imperial version is still expressed in metric numbers, just adapted to imperial sheet thickness)

james burrus · « **Reply #133 on:** August 01, 2013, 04:48 PM »

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downtheroad · « **Reply #134 on:** August 01, 2013, 07:12 PM »

Here's what I found:

Push-Push Latch

Knock-In Catch

elimelech12 · « **Reply #135 on:** August 26, 2013, 06:06 PM »

So my carcass has been done for a while but it's a side project as I don't have the time to fully dedicate to it. I made the legs out of 2x4 but I'm not to happy with them. I also built the carcass out of Mdf and I don't think it will be able to handle the drawers or constant moving to and fro. Also the T-track from peachtree is a little to thick so i'll most likely redo the top frame and use 3/4 all around. Here's what I've built so far.

Timtool · « **Reply #136 on:** August 27, 2013, 03:15 PM »

Quote from: elimelech12 on August 26, 2013, 06:06 PM

So my carcass has been done for a while but it's a side project as I don't have the time to fully dedicate to it. I made the legs out of 2x4 but I'm not to happy with them. I also built the carcass out of Mdf and I don't think it will be able to handle the drawers or constant moving to and fro. Also the T-track from peachtree is a little to thick so i'll most likely redo the top frame and use 3/4 all around. Here's what I've built so far.

Looks nice to me, i wouldn't worry about mdf not holding the drawers. I didn't use it because of the weight, but it is more resistant than you initially think.
Sometimes i trash damaged or surplus MDF carcass type assemblies which are just nailed and glued together, and often smashing them on the concrete doesn't do any damage. I need to take out a hammer.

Good luck with the continuation!

Tinker · « **Reply #137 on:** September 03, 2013, 06:28 AM »

Quote from: Timtool on July 20, 2013, 06:46 AM

Sorry for not being active lately, the harvest has begun so i spend most of my time driving a combine!

Tim,
you might get a kick out of this. A little off topic, but you are familiar with farm equipment.

When i was in HS, i was working on a small dairy farm. It was owned by a New York City newspaper guy who was using the farm as a tax write off. i had lived on a real working farm for several years before that, so i knew a little about poor operating procedures when i saw them. This owner had bought a one row seeder for sowing the corn crop. the farm was very hilly and he seemed to have directed the manager to plant the corn on the hilliest piece of ground on the farm. He later bought a harvester machine that cut and bundled the corn to be loaded onto wagons and hauled to the silo.

now, with very hilly ground that was loaded with stones of all sizes (Connecticut ground seems to grow new stones every year. a never ending chore of removing same), and a planter capable of only one very crooked row at a time, you, i am sure, can picture the fallacy of using an 4 row harvester to cut the corn.

Need I say more?
Tinker

Awesomo · « **Reply #138 on:** September 23, 2013, 06:40 PM »

A massive Thank you to Timtool for this. Ive been testing my beloved MFTC for the past couple of weeks now and love it!

I made a couple of small changes to mine, I don't own a domino (yet) so bored 20mm holes in the legs with a router to allow me to use the parf dogs as supports. This meant changing the dimensions of the rails at the drawer end to match the width of the folding legs.

I could not locate any decent adjustable feet so opted for M8 feet on pronged tee nuts. I wanted a solid surface for the extension tables so used the same method for the top of the main MFTC and extended the legs to full length (I keep a selection of plastic shims in the drawer in case I need to level it up). I got the T Tracks and toggle bolts (used to connect the extension tables) from http://www.rutlands.co.uk/

The drawer slides have a built in 'push to open' mechanism and are made by a firm called 'GTV'. I purchased them (along with the wheels and feet) from Ebay.

Thanks again to Tim.

elimelech12 · « **Reply #139 on:** September 23, 2013, 11:05 PM »

Now you have to fill it up with some systainers

NYC Tiny Shop · « **Reply #140 on:** September 24, 2013, 07:02 AM »

This is really clever! If I worked outside of my home, then I would want one! Looking forward to your next innovation, Tim.

badtastex · « **Reply #141 on:** September 25, 2013, 06:53 AM »

AwesomeO: Looks really nice. What dimension of plywood did you use for the extension tables? Are they heavy?

John2Stage · « **Reply #142 on:** October 06, 2013, 09:32 AM »

Hi Tim.

Where did you get the t-tracks. I'm from the netherlands so i think i can order them at the same place as you did.

Silverlight68 · « **Reply #143 on:** October 15, 2013, 03:30 PM »

I've been following this post for a couple weeks now, and I was wondering about those tracks. If I look at different suppliers, I notice some sell miter tracks, t-tracks, and mini t-tracks.
Which is which?
Are the tracks that the Festool clamps fit into called miter tracks or t-tracks?
I'm assuming the mini t-tracks are the same size as the track found on the Festool fence, am I correct?

elimelech12 · « **Reply #144 on:** October 17, 2013, 08:49 AM »

Quote from: John2Stage on October 06, 2013, 09:32 AM

Hi Tim.

Where did you get the t-tracks. I'm from the netherlands so i think i can order them at the same place as you did.

If I remember correctly, Tim mentioned picking them up in a big box store. They are curtain tracks.

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #145 on:** October 17, 2013, 10:09 AM »

Quote from: Silverlight68 on October 15, 2013, 03:30 PM

I've been following this post for a couple weeks now, and I was wondering about those tracks. If I look at different suppliers, I notice some sell miter tracks, t-tracks, and mini t-tracks.
Which is which?
Are the tracks that the Festool clamps fit into called miter tracks or t-tracks?
I'm assuming the mini t-tracks are the same size as the track found on the Festool fence, am I correct?

McMaster Carr sells t slot track that fits the Festool clamps # 1850A19 48" $12. There is also a guy on eBay selling identical track.

RMW

Silverlight68 · « **Reply #146 on:** October 18, 2013, 01:06 PM »

Yeah, it's bit of a downer living as an ex-pat over here in the Netherlands and trying to get my paws on stuff that's easily available in the US or Canada. A lot of the stuff on Ebay won't ship overseas, some will, but not everything, and it always seems like the stuff you would like to have the most won't ship.
I have found some suppliers here that sell some T-track that will work, but it's still a far cry from something yummy like Incra.

badtastex · « **Reply #147 on:** October 18, 2013, 01:23 PM »

You can check out www.motedis.de, they sell a lot of different profiles and some of them are definately compatible with the Festool clamps. I have used the 40 I-type Slot 8 and they are perfect with the clamps. I know that the clamps are also compatible with the B-type slot 10 but they will rattle a bit in the slot.

Boejholm · « **Reply #148 on:** October 18, 2013, 05:46 PM »

Another possibility is this German Company. I ordered routerlift and plate from them, they seem to have a large selection of Incra Goodies

www.feinewerkzeuge.de/werkstatt.html
Lars

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #149 on:** October 19, 2013, 09:57 AM »

Quote from: Silverlight68 on October 18, 2013, 01:06 PM

Yeah, it's bit of a downer living as an ex-pat over here in the Netherlands and trying to get my paws on stuff that's easily available in the US or Canada. A lot of the stuff on Ebay won't ship overseas, some will, but not everything, and it always seems like the stuff you would like to have the most won't ship.
I have found some suppliers here that sell some T-track that will work, but it's still a far cry from something yummy like Incra.

Sorry, my post was from a tablet and I had not noticed you were overseas. I ship some stuff via USPS International, feel free to email me if I you need a relay point for something.

RMW