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Offline jussi

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MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« on: August 06, 2019, 10:24 AM »
Which would you guys recommend and why?

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Offline Roseland

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2019, 11:04 AM »
https://www.axminster.co.uk/ujk-technology-parf-guide-system-mkii-104779

In the interest of full disclosure, I don't have one, but I've seen it used and I imagine it is the most accurate.

Andrew
TS55, MFT/3, OF1400, OF1010, CT26, RS100, ETS125, CXS, MFS400, DF-500, Zobos.

Offline Rta108

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2019, 11:52 AM »
Huge thread a few topics down about the parf mk2.


Offline Doug S

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2019, 01:52 PM »

Offline ChiknNutz

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2019, 02:07 PM »
The UJK offering is spendy, but is impressively accurate.  I am currently using it to build a custom MFT of my own.  I suggest getting it from Axminster directly as I wasn't paying attention and paid $55 excess to TSO over what Axminster offers it for.
-Chris
Rotex 150/5 FEQ, CT 36 E, ETS EC125/3, TS75, Domino XL

Offline threesixright

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2019, 02:18 PM »
Another vote for the LR 32. I’m in the same boat. Assuming you have a OF 1010/1400.

I think the other options are pretty expensive to drill just the pattern. The LR 32 is more versatile. And if you already have a normal rail, then you can use the LR 32 rails to extend. Which might come handy if you need to tackle some sheets.

I think LR 32 has proven its accuracy, and can accommodate you with the hole pattern.


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Offline JimD

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2019, 09:26 AM »
I'm happy with the results I got from the Woodrave router base and some pegboard.  My 3x7 foot outfeed/work table has 20mm holes on 4 inch spacing from using this setup with one of my old PC 690 routers in it's plunge base.  I also have a smaller version on a work surface on my cross cut bench.  I set up blocks to be used for assembly that have pegs going into the holes to establish a square corner.  I questioned if the holes made this way would be accurate enough but they are as square as any tool I have in my shop.  Drafting square, engineers square, etc..  4 inches is not 96mm but that doesn't matter to me.  Consistent spacing was what I wanted and I got that.  I can see some variation over the 8 foot length of the pegboard but it is apparently slight enough to not matter as a practical matter.  It is wood I work with. 

Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2019, 01:10 PM »
Speaking as I find. I have a Parf Guide System Mk2. It produces tops and cutting stations for me that are as accurate you'd ever need.
I don't know how it compares with other systems and methods, as I've not used them but, I like the PGS, it's a keeper.

Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2019, 02:21 PM »
Another option is have the top(s) CNC'd with a router. I have the UJK kit but I wanted a 4'x8' work table that I could break down easily so I cut a sheet of MDF into three 32" x 48" slabs. I happened to find a sign shop less than 1/2 mile from my house and they milled the slabs to my design for just over $50 a piece. Reviewing many designs on-line I included many slots that would fit my parallel jaw clamps and make it easy to carry.

One mistake I made was bought several bench dogs thinking I'd use them all the time to index my work. Ends up a TSO square and their parallel guides are much easier to use (for me). I seldom use the dogs and dog holes for work alignment. I also, place inexpensive 1/8" ply on the table at my cut line so as not to cut into the table in many random spots/angles.

Mike 

Offline Dane

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2019, 03:21 PM »
Another vote for the Woodrave jig.  Perfectly square holes on al the tops I’ve done with it.  Think I posted some photos on another thread a while back.  It’s by far the cheapest and easiest to crank out a top...only trick is finding some high quality pegboard.

Offline ben_r_

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2019, 06:18 PM »
Neither. After I did my research I found the Parf Guide System Mark 2 directly from Axminster to be the best deal and option.
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success!

Offline xedos

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2019, 08:47 PM »
Hands down, the Dominofix.  Woodpeckers is just to much trouble to use.  You have to plunge and circle the hole at the same time. And then the holes are as accurate or consistent in diameter.

Dominofix and similar jigs like Trend's are dead simple to get up and cutting holes in about 2 minutes.

All the jigs a kinda "expensive" to just drill a pattern.  The Parf version 2 was having some manuf. issues and turning out measuring sticks that didn't align.  Probably corrected by now , but if you get one of them it's going to be a real pain.  And while it's more versatile than two you're asking about; it is more complicated to set up and takes a lot longer to produce a top once you do.

Offline tallgrass

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2019, 03:06 AM »
I use the Dominofix. I love it and have used it a ton. If you do you part it works amazingly well.

Offline Ptk16

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2019, 07:37 PM »
Much simpler to just have one cnc cut...

Offline ChuckM

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2019, 12:47 PM »
For me, it isn't the money, but the time that I would need to spend on making just one sheet, regardless of which drilling jig is used. If I ever need a clean, new sheet. I'd go with the CNC route, or get it from Festool if no local shops can do it.

How many sheets would you destroy from regular use as an average hobbyist? If you're a business, wouldn't you get a better deal with the tax deduction from a purchase?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2019, 12:53 PM by ChuckM »

Offline Svar

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2019, 01:09 PM »
For me, it isn't the money, but the time that I would need to spend on making just one sheet, regardless of which drilling jig is used. If I ever need a clean, new sheet. I'd go with the CNC route, or get it from Festool if no local shops can do it.
To each his own.
Outsourcing to CNC also involves time, just not that obvious: find the shop, communicate what needs to be done, bring material, wait for order completion, go pick it up. For some people just to get to the CNC shop could be an hour drive one way.
With a jig you can make your sheet at 11 pm on Saturday when in a pinch.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2019, 01:59 PM »
True that finding a CNC shop may not be that easy, depending on where you are located. But once found, you can get as many sheets as you want from then on -- with no sweat (the Google says there are more than a dozen CNC shops/service providers in my city). I have come across posts in which people reported that self-made MFT sheets varied in their accuracy as there is probably a learning curve with the jig.

 
« Last Edit: September 27, 2019, 02:03 PM by ChuckM »

Offline tallgrass

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Re: MFT jig - Dominofix or Woodpecker
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2019, 02:00 PM »
I have CNC and it is not the end all. Lots of it. "commercial grade" Being that I do R&D work. I have lots of it. From the Shaper Origin, to 4 ton 5x10 router, cnc lathes and mills..... Not including all the manual machines. I bring this up for the simple reason that as the saying goes if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.

These manual solutions are perfect for what they excel at. I use the Dominofix all the time. If I want to put a patern on a jig or something on the fly, it literally takes minutes. I can make the required pattern with no down time. I can place it how ever I want in what ever orientation I wish. Do I spool up the big CNC, sure when it is the right tool. It quite literally can do a MFT table in about 15 minutes using the Dominofix.  I look at in a matter of choice. Choices are good. There are festoolians in my are of Los Angeles that I pump out tables from time to time. more for the social aspect of talking to guys in my area than making money on it. which I do not.

I would look at it as an "and" not an either or. The dominofix is relativity  inexpensive and having the option is worth it.