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Offline neilc

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Re: FESTOPPER - an inexpensive Dust Extractor mounted cyclone
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2019, 07:50 PM »
Sandy - search the forum here -

Oneida offered anti-static upgrade kits to owners due to static discharge issues. 

It has been an ongoing discussion on FOG since maybe 2008 or so.  I know Shane Holland mentioned in one thread as they sold a lot of DD's.

Search for 'Dust Deputy Static' with posts from Shane as one thread.








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Offline sandy

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Re: FESTOPPER - an inexpensive Dust Extractor mounted cyclone
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2019, 08:29 PM »
@neilc

As you suggested, I did a search for "Dust Deputy Static".  Surprisingly, I found the following by Jaybolishes in https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/ct-sys-with-dust-deputy-any-worries-about-static/msg573806/#msg573806:
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I have a ct36ac and a mini and I’ve use the dust deputy on both almost every time.  My electronic module on the 36 has fried twice, and that was while NOT USING the deputy and a green anti static hose.  There is definitely a design flaw keeping static of the 36’s electronic module.  I have since not fixed my out of warranty 36 and I’ve been rocking the mini and dust deputy a long time since without incident.  Had I have been using the deputy when my 36 fried twice I would have chalked this up to the cyclone being the problem. The two times it fried I was on location and didn’t want to lug the deputy around. I wonder if I had used the deputy, maybe the vac would have never fried. Food for thought.

Again, though, I acknowledge that any electronic circuit that is not properly designed can be subject to damage due to static discharge, and, again, I must point out that I am not dealing with a Dust Deputy, although I have used them in my shop for years without any issues.

Surely, you acknowledge that there are scores of posts in this forum relating to the design and use of Thein and cyclone separators, some of which are made of metal, but most of which are plastic and/or wood designs, and I have heard of ZERO instances in which any Dust Collector suffered damage due to static discharge; nor have I heard of any report that the DUSTOPPER device, used in the FESTOPPER, or the FESTOPPER, itself, have ever been implicated in any static related damage.

So, once again, can anyone point to a single, documented instance of static damage that implicated a DUSTOPPER, whether or not it was a component of a FESTOPPER?

And, finally... I do love your posts on the Shaper Community site.  If you're anywhere near Atlanta, I'd love to come visit you and learn how to use mine.  I'll even bring you a completed FESTOPPER for your time.  PM me.

Sandy
« Last Edit: September 09, 2019, 08:42 PM by sandy »

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Re: FESTOPPER - an inexpensive Dust Extractor mounted cyclone
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2019, 12:29 AM »
Well this has become interesting .................................

     In any case the situation here ( on the forum ) is really simple. Festool made the call that the Festopper will be considered a competing product.  The item itself or the plans for such can not be sold on FOG or through FOG. Whether it actually is a competing product or not, whether there are patent situations involved or not, whether sandy can post them for free and or show his design, etc............   None of that really matters. Festool owns the FOG, in the end it is Festools call regardless.

Seth


That includes selling by PM through FOG. And requesting / stumping for people to contact you to buy plans in FOG posts.


Seth
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Re: FESTOPPER - an inexpensive Dust Extractor mounted cyclone
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2019, 09:58 AM »
This topic has been locked pending  further input from Festool.


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