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Offline SRSemenza

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Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:19 AM »
Kevin D.  brought this up in another thread. Here is a link  to a PDF 'How To' on mounting the Domino to the LR32 router plate for use on the guide rails.

Click the "How To" tab at the top, then scroll down to "Mounting the Festool Domino machine on the 32mm shelf hole jig
" , click that for the PDF.   The first heading "Festool Domino Machine" is not the LR32 how to.

Mount Domino to LR32 plate

This is from Jerry Works , Dovetail Joint  website.


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« Last Edit: January 18, 2012, 11:31 AM by SRSemenza »

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 03:28 PM »
unfortunitly that only works with the pin model.
ron wen was supose to be preparing a solution but haent heard anything yet. nudge nudge
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 07:56 PM »
Thanks for the link Seth, but like Alan pointed out, it is for the pin type model.  But even if it was a pin model I had, I wanted a solution that the Domino face was in contact with the surface rather than riding on the sled itself.  I tinkered with this for a while, and originally I thought it would be easy to come up with something, but it wasn't so, especially when I got to thinking of all sorts of versatility in use I wanted to integrate into it.   Good brain teaser which one day I hope to revisit solving.  So far, Rembo possibly has the best solution yet, but I think we're still doing a little head scratching on it until we see it in action.
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 10:07 PM »
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 11:12 PM »
I see Ron's been busy after all....

Is that a final version Ron? 

Gonna put a video together by chance to better demonstrate its merits?

Are you planning on selling them as you did your Domiplate?
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 11:36 PM »
I see Ron's been busy after all....

Is that a final version Ron? 

Gonna put a video together by chance to better demonstrate its merits?

Are you planning on selling them as you did your Domiplate?

No, it still needs some engineering refinement.  Once I get it to a version that I think will be useful to people I'll probably send one to my favorite "videomakingverycleverwoodworkerallaroundniceguy" Paul Marcel for his analysis and suggestions for improvements.
Yes, I'll be happy to sell them.

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 11:45 PM »
The design is so brilliantly simple, yet I can see how efficient and versatile it will be.  I think with parrallel guides on the rails, it would lend itself even better for aligning it where I would want to plough mortices in series on an open board surface.  You're the man!  I'm looking forward to its availability.
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 09:42 AM »
That's pretty sexy stuff, Ron.

You're a tease. :)

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 11:00 PM »
I just received my Domiplate a few days ago and was surprised to unwrap a black anodized plate rather than the silver version.  I guess I was one of the last orders placed by following the thread and using Paypal.

When I saw that my Domiplate was black, I went to my computer looking for an answer.  I found senecawoodworking.com and immediately wondered what other product(s) might wind up there in the “Products Catalog”

I hope this is it.  If so, please let me know.  I’m ready when you are.

I’ve been looking at the Mafell DD 40 P Duodübler / Duo-Dowel because Mafell offers a track / rail solution for their system.

at about 1:20 in the video

I found the Mafell system while searching the web for ways to mate my Domino to my rails.

It was interesting to find that a major manufacturer found value in a joiner / track system.  Prior to finding the Mafell solution, I had received responses that ranged from incredulous to darn near hostile when inquiring among Festool enthusiasts about such a union.  It simply wasn’t necessary and bordered on “silly.”

Don’t get me wrong, I love my Festool stuff.  I often have a difficult time convincing non-tool people that my Festools warrant such exuberance.  And I too can be a devout and allegiant consumer when a manufacturer goes beyond simply meeting my needs, but questioning convention isn’t actually a sin.

The official Festool (USA) response was something akin to “Son, did you actually take time to learn to use the tool?”

Ron, the Domiplate (IMO) is elegant simplicity.  The fit and finish (someone else already mentioned this here) imediatley made me think of Woodpecker / Pinnacle.

As well as the Domiplate, I’ve purchased Rick Christopherson’s SCG-10.  These two accessories along with a method for connecting the Domino to a rail / track are three issues that I’ve long felt should have been either addressed or better addressed by Festool.  And I feel that all three of these solutions greatly expand and already highly usefull tool.

Whether you’re able to, or choose to deliver this product, THANKS for the Domiplate.

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 11:10 PM »
I just received my Domiplate a few days ago and was surprised to unwrap a black anodized plate rather than the silver version.  I guess I was one of the last orders placed by following the thread and using Paypal.

When I saw that my Domiplate was black, I went to my computer looking for an answer.  I found senecawoodworking.com and immediately wondered what other product(s) might wind up there in the “Products Catalog”

I hope this is it.  If so, please let me know.  I’m ready when you are.

I’ve been looking at the Mafell DD 40 P Duodübler / Duo-Dowel because Mafell offers a track / rail solution for their system.

at about 1:20 in the video

I found the Mafell system while searching the web for ways to mate my Domino to my rails.

It was interesting to find that a major manufacturer found value in a joiner / track system.  Prior to finding the Mafell solution, I had received responses that ranged from incredulous to darn near hostile when inquiring among Festool enthusiasts about such a union.  It simply wasn’t necessary and bordered on “silly.”

Don’t get me wrong, I love my Festool stuff.  I often have a difficult time convincing non-tool people that my Festools warrant such exuberance.  And I too can be a devout and allegiant consumer when a manufacturer goes beyond simply meeting my needs, but questioning convention isn’t actually a sin.

The official Festool (USA) response was something akin to “Son, did you actually take time to learn to use the tool?”

Ron, the Domiplate (IMO) is elegant simplicity.  The fit and finish (someone else already mentioned this here) imediatley made me think of Woodpecker / Pinnacle.

As well as the Domiplate, I’ve purchased Rick Christopherson’s SCG-10.  These two accessories along with a method for connecting the Domino to a rail / track are three issues that I’ve long felt should have been either addressed or better addressed by Festool.  And I feel that all three of these solutions greatly expand and already highly usefull tool.

Whether you’re able to, or choose to deliver this product, THANKS for the Domiplate.

We are working on a few good tools, and yes the Domino/LR32 bracket is one of them.  I'm having a little trouble finding time for "woodworking"...  [smile]

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 11:24 PM »

As well as the Domiplate, I’ve purchased Rick Christopherson’s SCG-10.  These two accessories along with a method for connecting the Domino to a rail / track are three issues that I’ve long felt should have been either addressed or better addressed by Festool.  And I feel that all three of these solutions greatly expand and already highly usefull tool.

Whether you’re able to, or choose to deliver this product, THANKS for the Domiplate.

Maybe someday someone will wake up at Festool and ether license these two products or just buy them out.  [big grin]
« Last Edit: February 24, 2012, 12:11 PM by GPowers »
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Offline plgard

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 11:32 PM »
I'm having a little trouble finding time for "woodworking"...  [smile]

Yeah, but you're bringing a product to market, gaining experiance and making millions, so is that the kind of trouble we refer to when we look at a beautiful woman and say "She's trouble?"


It's scary what enthusiasm can do to my vision.  I didn’t even notice the Domino’s position relative to the track changing in each photo.

The Mafell doesn’t do that!  Now I’m even more anxious.  Like the kid in the back seat “Is it done yet?”  “Is it done yet?”

I love convenience, and this seems like a big one!

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 11:43 PM »
I'm having a little trouble finding time for "woodworking"...  [smile]

Yeah, but you're bringing a product to market, gaining experiance and making millions, so is that the kind of trouble we refer to when we look at a beautiful woman and say "She's trouble?"


It's scary what enthusiasm can do to my vision.  I didn’t even notice the Domino’s position relative to the track changing in each photo.

The Mafell doesn’t do that!  Now I’m even more anxious.  Like the kid in the back seat “Is it done yet?”  “Is it done yet?”

I love convenience, and this seems like a big one!

Yeah, I'm having a bit of trouble seeing my computer screen as I type this because the sun is glaring on it as I sit in my lounge chair on my yacht -- I'll have to have the captain change the direction we are cruising...  [big grin]   

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 12:08 AM »
I'll have to have the captain change the direction we are cruising...  [big grin]

Ron,

Is there a fully equipped workshop in the lower decks of this yacht?  And are you making frequent stops to ports unkown harvesting exotics?

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2012, 05:48 PM »
Hey Ron,

Any more news regarding your Domino/LR32 bracket yet?

Thanks.

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2012, 06:05 PM »
unfortunitly that only works with the pin model.
ron wen was supose to be preparing a solution but haent heard anything yet. nudge nudge

Thanks for the nudge, we actually do have a prototype & will try to get it up for sale... soon.   [unsure]

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2012, 07:29 PM »
This could be a very useful accessory  [big grin]
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 08:49 AM »
The official Festool (USA) response was something akin to “Son, did you actually take time to learn to use the tool?”

Hmm figure that, this isn't the first time I've heard of such kind of behaviour from Festool. Just the other day I was reading a rather disturbing post from a Dutch dealer over at woodworking.nl who's had a few run-ins and weird reactions from Festool as well when he suggested improvements to their tools. I kind of find it hard to believe, since they have excellent customer care, but according to him Festool doesn't seem very open to suggestions for improvement  ???
Anyway...
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 11:09 AM »


I’ve been looking at the Mafell DD 40 P Duodübler / Duo-Dowel because Mafell offers a track / rail solution for their system.



That looks pretty cool. But as a "traditional" type woodworker, I've always shied away from dowel joints based on the common wisdom that dowels don't make for a good long time joint. They move too much and loose their hold (or maybe the wood around them does, can't remember). Think chairs with round tenons.

Maybe it's different when we're talking sheet goods?

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2012, 10:55 PM »
I know I'm reviving an old thread, but...

Ron,  Any word on this enhancement?  It looks extremely useful.

Thanks,
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2012, 09:27 AM »
Number one son Ryan is on a bicycle approximately half way between Washington, D.C. and Pittsburgh (camping along the way).  When he gets back later this week I'll pass a nudge on to him for this project.  My work is 99% done, it's now up to him to market them (as well as several other projects in the hopper -- NUDGE, NUDGE).  [unsure]

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2012, 01:25 AM »
Go, Ryan, Go!  Sounds like a fun trip.

Seneca Woodworking has a lot in the pipeline - the plate mount for the domino, parallel guides, the XL Domiplate and new bits, anything else?  I'm looking forward to the new products!


     Scott

 

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2012, 01:47 AM »
Go, Ryan, Go!  Sounds like a fun trip.

Seneca Woodworking has a lot in the pipeline - the plate mount for the domino, parallel guides, the XL Domiplate and new bits, anything else?  I'm looking forward to the new products!

     Scott


The "Fency-Shims" for the XL Domino to handle thinner stock and a couple of others that are escaping me at the moment. 
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/which-domino-to-buy/

The Lad needs to play a bit less & work a bit more...  [unsure]

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2013, 03:13 PM »
Hi Ron,

I'd like to nudge you again on your mounting plate.  I was looking at Jerry Works' solution and it looks like his way the front bolt interferes with the angle lock down lever on the domino, making it less secure than I'd like.  If others have tried it, I'd be interested in their experience.

Any date yet for your release?

Thanks,

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2013, 01:19 PM »
Wouldn't it be easier to just mount the domino over the existing LR 32 hole? All you'd need is a few threaded holes machined into the domino fence.

Or make a part that slips over like the cross stop, and that attaches to the plate....

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2014, 03:16 PM »
Poke, poke... Any updates on this accessory? :)

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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2014, 05:35 PM »
Been there. Done that. Look up Tomiplate if you art curious. My setup does not require modifications to the LR32 plate either! So far I gave only used it in the lateral fashion i.e. the domino in the horizontal plane.
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2014, 12:28 AM »
I am new enough to the site that I had never seen this. Seems like a neat idea from Ron, but is there any kind of update or is it a dead product?
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2014, 12:37 PM »
Would still like to see this product come to life.
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Re: Domino mounted to LR32 plate
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2015, 03:24 PM »
Me too...