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Title: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 01, 2013, 11:41 PM
Thought I would post up some pics of my cutting table. It is all assembled with half laps so it breaks down real quick.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/02/5e6e8yma.jpg)



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EDIT> added spaces  to seperate pictures.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: builderbob on August 02, 2013, 12:07 AM
That looks great!  I see some kerf marks, so I'm assuming you've used it...how do you like it?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Guilliaume woodworks on August 02, 2013, 12:25 AM
Can you post pics of it broken-down? Is it meant to be moved from job to job?  Regardless, it looks great. I'm looking to build portable job site table and can't decide on design. Are you happy with its stability? Sorry all the questions, david
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Motown on August 02, 2013, 02:33 AM
Really clean design. Do you mind sharing some of the dimensions: height, width, length?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: pugilato on August 02, 2013, 07:36 AM
I like it... more info, please
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 02, 2013, 08:03 AM
Thanks guys! I did steal the basic design from another one I saw and then made quite a few enhancements. It is meant to break down and move from shop to the job site. I can take a picture the next time I break it down.

 I used two sheets of 3/4" luan plywood. It's assembled width is 4' x 8'.  I made a quick jig to route the half laps all the same. This way all the pieces are interchangeable. I made the height match my portable table saw on its stand, so it can double as an out-feed table.

It can hold a ton of weight and it is fairly stable. The half laps are snug but not tight. This does allow for a little "sway" lengthwise, but nothing major.

Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: polarsea1 on August 02, 2013, 05:10 PM
Probably a silly question but did you square the ends of the grooves?
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Post by: overanalyze on August 02, 2013, 06:24 PM
Yep. Used a 3/8" bit to route the groove and then a quick cleanup with the trion. Hit everything with a quick 1/8" roundover and a sander.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: JerrySats on August 02, 2013, 07:18 PM
Nice job on that table .  Do you have pics of the jig you made ?   What's the width of the braces ?  Thanks
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 03, 2013, 12:33 AM
Here's the jig. Quick and dirty, but it worked well. I had 5-10 minutes in building it and used scrap from the shop.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/03/a9ehusej.jpg)
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: waltwood on August 03, 2013, 06:29 PM
This is great! I have been trying to come up with an idea for a cutting table for 2 days and none of them suited me and a couple others I saw on this site I did not really like. This one is perfect for me.  I might get a friend with a CNC machine to cut one out for me because it does those joints with no slop at all and I don't want to dissemble mine. Thanks.

Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 03, 2013, 09:55 PM
This is great! I have been trying to come up with an idea for a cutting table for 2 days and none of them suited me and a couple others I saw on this site I did not really like. This one is perfect for me.  I might get a friend with a CNC machine to cut one out for me because it does those joints with no slop at all and I don't want to dissemble mine. Thanks.

Thanks a lot! If you don't want to break it down, then just use some pocket screws to hold it all tight. I will also put a sheet of Dow down first and then put on my sheet goods to get premium dust collection and prevent scratching if it's pre-finished goods.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: waltwood on August 04, 2013, 04:59 PM
By Dow you mean the foamboard? How does that hold up to the saw kerfs. The ply I am cutting is $70 a sheet so scratching it is an issue. Up to now I have been sawing on 2 x 4's across horses and I always have to re-position them according to what cut I am making and with your table it looks like any cut on a 4 x 8 sheet would not pinch the blade or fall in the floor.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 04, 2013, 05:48 PM
By Dow you mean the foamboard? How does that hold up to the saw kerfs. The ply I am cutting is $70 a sheet so scratching it is an issue. Up to now I have been sawing on 2 x 4's across horses and I always have to re-position them according to what cut I am making and with your table it looks like any cut on a 4 x 8 sheet would not pinch the blade or fall in the floor.

Exactly why I built it. No pinch points and no moving the sheet around. The Dow is the pink or blue or green Styrofoam.  The white stuff isn't a good idea (it low density). If your blade is set correct, one sheet last a while.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: JerrySats on August 12, 2013, 10:52 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/4748/5n5v.jpg)

Thanks for sharing your table , I'm real happy how mine turned out .  I gotta say this thing is strong as can be .
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: fshanno on August 13, 2013, 01:35 AM

Thanks for sharing your table , I'm real happy how mine turned out .  I gotta say this thing is strong as can be .


Do I see the the granite top Ridged table saw in the background?  Mine was recalled and since I was too far to have a technician come to me I had them come pick it up.  I really liked that saw.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 13, 2013, 07:08 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/4748/5n5v.jpg)

Thanks for sharing your table , I'm real happy how mine turned out .  I gotta say this thing is strong as can be .
Wow! That was fast! Glad you like it. Its crazy how much weight it can hold.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: JerrySats on August 13, 2013, 01:05 PM

Thanks for sharing your table , I'm real happy how mine turned out .  I gotta say this thing is strong as can be .


Do I see the the granite top Ridged table saw in the background?  Mine was recalled and since I was too far to have a technician come to me I had them come pick it up.  I really liked that saw.


Good eye there. Yes your right I added the incra fence systen to it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: JerrySats on August 13, 2013, 01:08 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/4748/5n5v.jpg)

Thanks for sharing your table , I'm real happy how mine turned out .  I gotta say this thing is strong as can be .
Wow! That was fast! Glad you like it. Its crazy how much weight it can hold.

I thought yhere would be some wobble to it but its rock solid. I did wax the sides and that hepls taking it apart.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Guilliaume woodworks on August 13, 2013, 11:26 PM
Your opinion ...would this table be good for portable jobsite table? Looks like when disassembled it could be fairly compact? Do you think daily set up & break down would create slop in joints? 
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Post by: atlr on August 14, 2013, 06:48 AM
Could adding UHMW Polyethylene Rubber Adhesive Tape to the the slots (resized for the tape) be helpful for  set-up/breakdown durability?

...Do you think daily set up & break down would create slop in joints? 
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 14, 2013, 07:58 AM
Your opinion ...would this table be good for portable jobsite table? Looks like when disassembled it could be fairly compact? Do you think daily set up & break down would create slop in joints? 

I built this table to be brought to the job. It breaks down and lays flat. I think the table it cheap enough to build if I am wearing out the slots, then it has made me enough money to build another one!
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: John_ on August 14, 2013, 11:05 AM
Here is another way to do it - using  2 x 4's

These are the Dewalt Saw horses that can be found at Lowes or Home Depot.  They are height adjustable and have two notches at the top to hold the two main 2 x 4's in place.
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Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: JerrySats on August 14, 2013, 02:50 PM
John I like that setup.  I made mine to use on jobsites. Wax sure helped me to get it apart easier.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Guilliaume woodworks on August 14, 2013, 11:14 PM
Your opinion ...would this table be good for portable jobsite table? Looks like when disassembled it could be fairly compact? Do you think daily set up & break down would create slop in joints? 

I built this table to be brought to the job. It breaks down and lays flat. I think the table it cheap enough to build if I am wearing out the slots, then it has made me enough money to build another one!
good point...if they wear out ,it means your working making $$
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: LM on August 22, 2013, 03:32 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/4748/5n5v.jpg)

Thanks for sharing your table , I'm real happy how mine turned out .  I gotta say this thing is strong as can be .
Wow! That was fast! Glad you like it. Its crazy how much weight it can hold.

I thought yhere would be some wobble to it but its rock solid. I did wax the sides and that hepls taking it apart.

Nice table how big are the sections? What's the overlap?

Regards
Leigh
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: JerrySats on August 27, 2013, 08:54 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/4748/5n5v.jpg)

Thanks for sharing your table , I'm real happy how mine turned out .  I gotta say this thing is strong as can be .
Wow! That was fast! Glad you like it. Its crazy how much weight it can hold.

I thought there would be some wobble to it but its rock solid. I did wax the sides and that hepls taking it apart.

Nice table how big are the sections? What's the overlap?

Regards
Leigh

I used 2 - 4x8 sheets of plywood . It works out to be right about 16" and half of that for the overlap . The ends you can make what ever height you want , mine are 37" to match all the tops in my shop .  I just layed everything out on 4x8 sheet of white hardboard . Then transferred all my measurements over to the actual plywood I was using .
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: jeep jake on August 28, 2013, 11:05 AM
That's slick. How ment sheets of plywood did it take? Did you do all the half laps and slots with a router?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Bhend18 on August 28, 2013, 04:29 PM
What do you use the holes for?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 28, 2013, 07:03 PM
That's slick. How ment sheets of plywood did it take? Did you do all the half laps and slots with a router?

I used a router and a quick jig to make sure all pieces were interchangeable.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on August 28, 2013, 07:03 PM
What do you use the holes for?

So you can clamp material to the table.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: JerrySats on August 28, 2013, 08:12 PM
That's slick. How ment sheets of plywood did it take? Did you do all the half laps and slots with a router?

I used a router and a quick jig to make sure all pieces were interchangeable.

I did the same thing , made a jig for my router . I used 2 sheets of 3/4 ply .
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Joel Harry on September 02, 2013, 01:33 AM
As far as portable workbenches go, you guys might want to check out the "Ultimate Workbench" from Ron Paulk. You can order a very nice/detailed set of plans from him for a reasonable price ($10). plans (http://www.paulkhomes.com/Paulk_Homes/Order_Plans.html). It's a nice cutting surface also using some sacrificial strips.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: evilcat on February 25, 2014, 08:55 AM
Looks good. How sturdy is the table in terms of side or end loads? Does it want to fold much?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: JerrySats on February 27, 2014, 05:28 PM
Looks good. How sturdy is the table in terms of side or end loads? Does it want to fold much?

The table design is solid as a rock. Theres no movement in any direction. The joints are what makes this so solid , keep them tight with no slop and you'll be fine . To help it go together easier , just wax the joints up with furniture wax .

I shouldn't post from my phone with my fat fingers !!
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on February 27, 2014, 09:53 PM
My lap joints are a touch bit loose. I do not have very much play or sway in the setup. I have had ours at our current job for the last few weeks and it has been great. We keep a piece of 1" Dow on it now to cut on for better dust collection. Also, like any flat surface on a job, it makes a great work table in general. We also had a large project to do that required us to site cut a bunch of ACM panels. This was perfect to break down, transport, and use on the road.
Title: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on April 04, 2014, 05:27 PM
I had a want/need for a smaller table. I just realized that by making all my components universal as far as the location of the half laps I can use 2 of the 4' cross members and the legs and make a smaller 4x4 table. Now for an MFT top for it...

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/05/3any8u6u.jpg)
Title: Re:
Post by: overanalyze on April 10, 2014, 08:50 PM
Hey guys, I drew up a set of detailed plans and instructions for my cutting table. I am charging a small fee. If anyone is interested,  PM me for details. Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on April 13, 2014, 10:27 PM
Here is the model of my lastest addition to this design. I am working on an add on mft style top for my small version of this table.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/14/ju2abyha.jpg)
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Guilliaume woodworks on April 15, 2014, 12:34 AM
I like your choice to keep table parts universal... My friend and I both agree that this design makes a great jobsite cut table..however, we are coming up with ideas on how to make the table base collapsible or stacking all the parts for easy transport. Basically trying to fold up the parts together.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on April 15, 2014, 08:08 AM
I like your choice to keep table parts universal... My friend and I both agree that this design makes a great jobsite cut table..however, we are coming up with ideas on how to make the table base collapsible or stacking all the parts for easy transport. Basically trying to fold up the parts together.

Very cool! I can't wait to see what you come up with!
Title: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on May 01, 2014, 01:45 PM
I know a guy with a cnc. He made me a 4'x4' mft top for my small version of my table. This should be perfect to take on site. I am deciding how I want to attach the top. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/beguju2e.jpg)
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Domino on May 12, 2014, 04:16 PM
I wanted to build an transportable workbench for months now. I've seen a lot of designs, but most were too heavy, too big after breaking it down.

But this...

THIS IS GENIUS!

I love how you can build a small table with the same parts!

I'm definitely going to build this!
Title: Re: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on May 12, 2014, 06:52 PM
Definitely glad people are liking the table. I have ours on site right now building a custom fireplace surround and for a kitchen remodel. We also used it last week as a material support table and work surface cutting a bunch of exterior trim. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/tapypega.jpg)
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: realpdm on September 25, 2014, 04:22 PM
I just completed mine based on the plans. Thank you for providing those. This is going to really make life easier cutting down plywood in my limited space.


Anyone else built this and put a finish on it? Seems like it would help keep it survive many assemblies and disassemblies.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on September 25, 2014, 08:22 PM
Nice job!!
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: wow on September 25, 2014, 09:22 PM
So I have to ask...

what did you do with the circle cut-out? There has to be a GREAT use for it.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: ScottGrimmRestoration on September 25, 2014, 09:41 PM
 Getting ready to build this table also.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: tjbnwi on September 26, 2014, 08:06 AM
I made this one. The joints are left a little loose so it is easier to assemble in the field.

Tom
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: Wooden Skye on September 26, 2014, 08:49 AM
I made this one. The joints are left a little loose so it is easier to assemble in the field.

Tom

Tom

That is a great cutting table.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: mike_aa on September 26, 2014, 10:21 AM
I made this one. The joints are left a little loose so it is easier to assemble in the field.

Tom

Tom

That is a great cutting table.

+1! 

How are the feet attached?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: wow on September 26, 2014, 10:39 AM
I made this one. The joints are left a little loose so it is easier to assemble in the field.

Tom

Tom:

Love the guide rail storage!!! I am SOOOooo stealing that idea!

Do the looser joints cause any issues, like table wobbling or whatever? Or asked another way - would you build it the same way (loose joints) if you made another one?

BTW, thanks for posting that. I'm sure you will inspire many others to finally build a table...
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: elfick on September 26, 2014, 10:53 AM
I made this one. The joints are left a little loose so it is easier to assemble in the field.

Are the feet HDPE?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: GOT8SPD on September 26, 2014, 11:26 AM
What do you use the holes for?

I think they're speed holes.  I've seen them on Honda Civics and stuff  [big grin]

JK...cool design!
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: ScottGrimmRestoration on October 02, 2014, 08:31 PM
Just got done building mine.

 Scott G.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: ScottGrimmRestoration on October 02, 2014, 08:49 PM
I laid out the half laps and cut them with a jig saw (trion). The end of the notch I made a block of wood so I could plunge down square with the oscillating saw. Turned out strong.
 Scott G.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on October 02, 2014, 08:59 PM
Turned out great Scott!
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: tjbnwi on October 02, 2014, 09:55 PM
I did not see the questions until now. Sorry for the delay.

Bryan, thanks for the compliment. I appreciate it.

The feet are HDPE, I chose the product for the feet because I plan to use this as an easy to transport field table. No qualms about setting it up in a dew soaked lawn this time of year. They are attached with 2- 5 mm Dominos in each of the feet.

Over, it does wobble slightly. The ease of assembly and disassembly make it worth the slight wobble. I wouldn't hand plane on it but every other operation the table has performed very well.

A side benefit of the height of the stretchers is my clamps work with them.

Tom
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: jmac80 on December 08, 2015, 11:05 AM

Thanks for that idea @John_
We have the exact same saw horses here in the Uk but they are branded "stanley fatmax" or were till i took the sticker off  ;D
Also had to shave the 4"x2" to fit in the recess on the saw horse, UK 4x2 are bigger than USA ones I believe!
Quick and nasty effort i made this morning but will do the trick for me just fine... SO much better than doing it on the ground.

(http://i.imgur.com/oZzHmWG.jpg)
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: joiner1970 on December 08, 2015, 11:12 AM
Here is another way to do it - using  2 x 4's

These are the Dewalt Saw horses that can be found at Lowes or Home Depot.  They are height adjustable and have two notches at the top to hold the two main 2 x 4's in place.
(Attachment Link)

Thanks for that idea @John_
We have the exact same saw horses here in the Uk but they are branded "stanley fatmax" or were till i took the sticker off  ;D
Also had to shave the 4"x2" to fit in the recess on the saw horse, UK 4x2 are bigger than USA ones I believe!
Quick and nasty effort i made this morning but will do the trick for me just fine... SO much better than doing it on the ground.

(http://i.imgur.com/oZzHmWG.jpg)
If you ever want some more sturdy stools for that let me know. I've got a pair of hardly used Toughbuilt ones. They're metal but have that same 4x2 hook on the ends. I'm looking to sell them as I bought the dewalt horses.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: jmac80 on December 08, 2015, 11:20 AM
Thanks @joiner1970
I did look at them but decided i didn't really need them.
This is actually extremely sturdy  [big grin]
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: joiner1970 on December 08, 2015, 11:26 AM
I'd take £50 for them if you change your mind. Theyre almost like new as I haven't really used them. I was buying the dewalt ones and saw these half the price of the dewalt ones. Then ended up buying the dewalt anyway.
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: jmac80 on December 08, 2015, 11:46 AM
I'd take £50 for them if you change your mind. Theyre almost like new as I haven't really used them. I was buying the dewalt ones and saw these half the price of the dewalt ones. Then ended up buying the dewalt anyway.

@joiner1970
what model are they?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: joiner1970 on December 08, 2015, 12:09 PM
These (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/08/129ed252d4be61975535517081473642.jpg)

£45 each in toolstation
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: jmac80 on December 08, 2015, 12:24 PM
Thanks for the pic @joiner1970 .
To be honest I really don't need them as I'm quite happy with the Stanley/DeWalt ones.
Bang them in the classifieds? or maybe UKW classifieds if your on there?
Cheers
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: joiner1970 on December 08, 2015, 12:33 PM
Yeah they're on the ukw, but I'm not pushing to sell them they're just sitting in my workshop and if someone wants them they're gone. :)

I've got a few things to sell , a job for the new year :)
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: jmac80 on December 08, 2015, 01:24 PM
Yeah they're on the ukw, but I'm not pushing to sell them they're just sitting in my workshop and if someone wants them they're gone. :)

I've got a few things to sell , a job for the new year :)

@joiner1970 Pm me other items your selling lol   [big grin] [scared] [big grin]
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on July 15, 2017, 05:26 PM
We still use this table a ton for shop work and on site fabrication. I have started to call it my VFT table (VariableFunctionTable). Thanks again to all my FOG friends who have bought the plans and let me know how they liked it!

Having a 4x4 MFT style top has been awesome too. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170715/3f01d52bc443bf6e247be02842a10b22.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170715/3c26c93ea83b97bd238ad8b4788bc06e.jpg)

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Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: BasZor on September 07, 2017, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the inspiration!

Build a smaller variant of the table with scrap wood lying around.

Also functions nice as a base for the DIY table saw / working area!

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building the saw table (http://imgur.com/a/ptt1w)
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: overanalyze on September 08, 2017, 06:50 AM
Nice! Glad you found it useful!

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Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: kevreh on December 19, 2017, 10:32 AM

Thanks for that idea @John_
We have the exact same saw horses here in the Uk but they are branded "stanley fatmax" or were till i took the sticker off  ;D
Also had to shave the 4"x2" to fit in the recess on the saw horse, UK 4x2 are bigger than USA ones I believe!
Quick and nasty effort i made this morning but will do the trick for me just fine... SO much better than doing it on the ground.

(http://i.imgur.com/oZzHmWG.jpg)

I like the 2x4 approach since I just don't have too much room in my shop for the larger size supports shown in the beginning of this thread. One improvement I might make is to glue up 3/4" baltic birch or regular plywood to get 1.5" thickness to sit in those sawhorses. Or maybe order LVL 2x4's. Saw them recently on This Old House. Wonder if LVLs or plywood wood be more rigid and stable vs regular pine 2x4s. ?
Title: Re: Cutting/work table
Post by: cuddysteph on August 24, 2018, 11:02 AM
does anyone got plan for this work table small model and long ? please  i need  to do my stair and i have nothing working