Author Topic: BF/MFT Build (Read 18007 times)

AtomicRyan · « **Reply #30 on:** November 06, 2019, 09:37 PM »

Quote from: neilc on November 06, 2019, 08:53 PM

Very weird. Normally MDF should be the easiest wood to cut - dull bit perhaps? Climb cutting? Did you use the same g-code file with the two earlier tops or was it starting fresh with a design and g-code file on each?

Yep. Same code...

AtomicRyan · « **Reply #31 on:** November 08, 2019, 04:04 PM »

My daughter wanted to make something in the shop... So, we made a sysport charging station. It has systainer feet on it so that it just locks into the shelf like a systainer does.

AtomicRyan · « **Reply #32 on:** November 12, 2019, 10:54 AM »

Sacrificial HDPE kerf line came together pretty well.

08G8V8 · « **Reply #33 on:** November 12, 2019, 11:27 AM »

Excellent idea.

AtomicRyan · « **Reply #34 on:** November 12, 2019, 12:22 PM »

Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 12, 2019, 11:27 AM

Excellent idea.

This might sound a bit insane, but I'm actually thinking about back lighting it from underneath. The dado that holds the HDPE is centered over a row of dog holes, so i could mount an LED strip that shines through these unused holes. The idea being is that a backlit kerf line might be handy when lining up a cut?

I dunno... maybe.

Svar · « **Reply #35 on:** November 12, 2019, 01:07 PM »

Quote from: AtomicRyan on November 12, 2019, 12:22 PM

This might sound a bit insane, ...

Yes, it does.

I have an MDF sacrificial strip like that on may table. I wanted to replace it with something non-slip to help hold small or thin pieces in place. Splinter guard on the rail is slippery and not helpful in this regard.

Bob D. · « **Reply #36 on:** November 12, 2019, 01:33 PM »

Ryan, I can't tell from the photo but did you dovetail that strip in the top or are the edges square cut?

The HDPE looks good and I guess some MDF would work too.

AtomicRyan · « **Reply #37 on:** November 12, 2019, 02:16 PM »

Quote from: Bob D. on November 12, 2019, 01:33 PM

Ryan, I can't tell from the photo but did you dovetail that strip in the top or are the edges square cut?

The HDPE looks good and I guess some MDF would work too.

Nope. My skills aren't to that level.

It's a straight dado... Right now, I just have the insert stuck in with a clearance/press-in fit... I think that will work.

RightAngleDesign · « **Reply #38 on:** November 12, 2019, 09:15 PM »

Backlighting would be FAR OUT!

AtomicRyan · « **Reply #39 on:** November 13, 2019, 03:43 PM »

Got the guide rail by @RightAngleDesign installed and squared... This thing is made really well and handles the long guide rail without issue. I’ll cover it in detail on the next video.

Dusty.Tools · « **Reply #40 on:** November 14, 2019, 12:54 AM »

Quote from: AtomicRyan on November 13, 2019, 03:43 PM

Got the guide rail by @RightAngleDesign installed and squared... This thing is made really well and handles the long guide rail without issue. I’ll cover it in detail on the next video.

I like that sacrificial strip a lot! My MFT (yet to be finished) top is laminated with Formica Microdot, so I don't want to cut into it. Adding a string like this is a perfect addition!

I tried to look up details about the guide rail, can you share some more info, looks interesting.

08G8V8 · « **Reply #41 on:** November 14, 2019, 11:53 AM »

Yes, more info on the guide rail mount. I did a search and didn’t find anything. I am designing my 8020 MFT bench, on a smaller scale, and am curious about this option. Thanks

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Gregor · « **Reply #42 on:** November 14, 2019, 03:15 PM »

Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 14, 2019, 11:53 AM

Yes, more info on the guide rail mount. I did a search and didn’t find anything.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/rightangledesign/

Dusty.Tools · « **Reply #43 on:** November 14, 2019, 04:37 PM »

Quote from: Gregor on November 14, 2019, 03:15 PM

Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 14, 2019, 11:53 AM
Yes, more info on the guide rail mount. I did a search and didn’t find anything.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/rightangledesign/

Nice! I can see a purchase in my future!

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AtomicRyan · « **Reply #44 on:** November 14, 2019, 05:19 PM »

The guide rail pivot is amazing. I 100% endorse it.

Also... I usually make fun of people that use kaizen foam... Now, I can make fun of myself!

gatescarpentry · « **Reply #45 on:** November 14, 2019, 10:12 PM »

Quote from: AtomicRyan on November 14, 2019, 05:19 PM

The guide rail pivot is amazing. I 100% endorse it.

Also... I usually make fun of people that use kaizen foam... Now, I can make fun of myself!

Fantastic! I’m an early adopter of the Right Angle Design system. I use my tables everyday and have the best of both worlds with easy transport and set up combined with shop accuracy. Thanks for sharing your project

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hdv · « **Reply #46 on:** November 15, 2019, 05:56 AM »

Anyone know if this system works in combination with 8020 profiles? Or can it only be used with the MFT-rails?

tdwilli1 · « **Reply #47 on:** November 15, 2019, 10:40 AM »

Quote from: Gregor on November 14, 2019, 03:15 PM

Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 14, 2019, 11:53 AM
Yes, more info on the guide rail mount. I did a search and didn’t find anything.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/rightangledesign/

I didn't see anything but Ipad or phone stands. Is that what was used?

kmickey · « **Reply #48 on:** November 15, 2019, 11:21 AM »

Quote from: Gregor on November 14, 2019, 03:15 PM

Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 14, 2019, 11:53 AM
Yes, more info on the guide rail mount. I did a search and didn’t find anything.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/rightangledesign/

I believe he’s talking about this.

https://www.dashboardpws.com/gallery

Dusty.Tools · « **Reply #49 on:** November 15, 2019, 11:27 AM »

Quote from: tdwilli1 on November 15, 2019, 10:40 AM

Quote from: Gregor on November 14, 2019, 03:15 PM
Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 14, 2019, 11:53 AM
Yes, more info on the guide rail mount. I did a search and didn’t find anything.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/rightangledesign/

I didn't see anything but Ipad or phone stands. Is that what was used?

https://etsy.me/2N3J9uJ

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Dusty.Tools · « **Reply #50 on:** November 15, 2019, 11:28 AM »

Quote from: hdv on November 15, 2019, 05:56 AM

Anyone know if this system works in combination with 8020 profiles? Or can it only be used with the MFT-rails?

It works with 80/20, I confirmed yesterday before placing an order.

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hdv · « **Reply #51 on:** November 15, 2019, 12:44 PM »

Sorry. I should have been clearer in my question. Indeed, I meant the jig by RightAngleDesign.

Thanks for confirming the compatibility @Dusty.Tools! I think I've found my Christmas present.

jobsworth · « **Reply #52 on:** November 16, 2019, 10:52 AM »

@AtomicRyan

Great Idea. I did something similar a while ago except ILO HDPE I used scrap hardwood.

What I didnt do but should of (lets call yer sacrificial strip a vertical Strip). I would of made on horizontal to. Very convienent for cutting length wise.

tdwilli1 · « **Reply #53 on:** November 16, 2019, 10:58 AM »

Quote from: Dusty.Tools on November 15, 2019, 11:27 AM

Quote from: tdwilli1 on November 15, 2019, 10:40 AM
Quote from: Gregor on November 14, 2019, 03:15 PM
Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 14, 2019, 11:53 AM
Yes, more info on the guide rail mount. I did a search and didn’t find anything.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/rightangledesign/

I didn't see anything but Ipad or phone stands. Is that what was used?

https://etsy.me/2N3J9uJ

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Thanks, I was just glancing at that and I took it for a rail connector.

08G8V8 · « **Reply #54 on:** November 16, 2019, 05:19 PM »

AtomicRyan, in your video where you discuss coating your top with the 50/50 mixture of mineral spirits and wipe on poly, did you apply it to the bore of your holes? And if so, did it purely soak it in or did it affect the ability to insert dogs?

I got my baby 33”x57” MDF top drilled up the other day using my Parf System, and just purchased the stuff to finish it today. Still need to sand it down before applying.

Thanks

AtomicRyan · « **Reply #55 on:** November 16, 2019, 05:49 PM »

Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 16, 2019, 05:19 PM

AtomicRyan, in your video where you discuss coating your top with the 50/50 mixture of mineral spirits and wipe on poly, did you apply it to the bore of your holes? And if so, did it purely soak it in or did it affect the ability to insert dogs?

I got my baby 33”x57” MDF top drilled up the other day using my Parf System, and just purchased the stuff to finish it today. Still need to sand it down before applying.

Thanks

It’s so thin that the edge grain of the dog holes just soaks it up. I’ve done tons of coats and it hasn’t messed with dog fit at all.

@jobsworth Great idea.

Dusty.Tools · « **Reply #56 on:** November 17, 2019, 03:19 PM »

As an aside - Does anyone know if the placement of the first row of holes is important?

A Festool MFT has them placed 70mm edge to center for the first row. Then all other rows are 96mm. With the last also being 70mm.

When designing a top, is it important to stick to the 70mm + (96mm x #rows\columns) + 70mm sizing?

The implication is a top needs to be based on the following dimensions:

428.0mm (4 holes)
524.0mm (5 holes)
620.0mm (etc.)
716.0mm
812.0mm
908.0mm
1,004.0mm
1,100.0mm
1,196.0mm
1,292.0mm
1,388.0mm
1,484.0mm
1,580.0mm
1,676.0mm

Cheers

Ben

08G8V8 · « **Reply #57 on:** November 17, 2019, 03:27 PM »

I would think their placement is based on linking 2 MFT/3’s together and having the last row of one table and the first row of the second being at the same 96mm spacing.

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Gregor · « **Reply #58 on:** November 17, 2019, 03:59 PM »

Quote from: 08G8V8 on November 17, 2019, 03:27 PM

I would think their placement is based on linking 2 MFT/3’s together and having the last row of one table and the first row of the second being at the same 96mm spacing.

There'll be one virtual (=not existing) row of holes in the seam between the two tables.

08G8V8 · « **Reply #59 on:** November 17, 2019, 04:15 PM »

I guess I should have said to maintain the multiple of 96mm spacing, or 32mm. I’m not positive this is true, but would assume it is.

I am making a MfT table from 8020 material, which I wanted to be 3’ x 5’. I made my top this past week and went 8 rows wide x 15 rows lengthwise. I also wanted to have offset rows along the perimeter to add a fence and dogs to position the guide rails to allow wider cross cuts. I am thinking of adding a foldable wing on one side and will need to figure out how to maintain pattern spacing if I decide to add holes to the wing. The other end of the table will be a router table. I am running an offset row of holes directly down the center for the Incra LS Positioner which will use for the router table fence, and for use with the tracksaw.

But now I am looking at the RightAngleDesign guide rail attachment instead of the offset dogs for rail position.