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Offline GigaWatt

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Another DIY MFT Build
« on: December 06, 2020, 11:31 AM »
After 60 years of woodworking, I can no longer handle full sheets of plywood & mdf. I decided to completely change my method of working and consolidate all of my operations into my basement shop. I sold my Delta Uni Saw, infeed table, outfeed table, 24" planer and various other pieces of equipment that were located in my large shop. I used the money from those sales to buy a TS 55 REBQ-Plus-FS additional guide rail, TSO GRS-16 Guide Rail Square/assorted dogs, 47" Fence System from BenchDogs UK and Dash-Board Guide Rail Bracket Set which I won't receive until late December.

That brought me to the MFT which I actually started designing and building before before buying the above equipment. I looked at the Festool MFT, to much movement during use and the Dash-Board Bench, way to expensive for the amount of time I would use it. I considered using 80-20 for the frame like I did on my infeed-outfeed tables and my CNC; too expensive for the number of years I have left to work. I decided to go with a complete wood build.

The pics below is what I built. I'm going to fabricate 2 steel brackets that will attach to the shop wall to support the MFT when not in use. I have 4 small furniture dollies that I can move the MFT around the shop if needed. Most of the time it will stay in front of the wall location close to the DC connection. I'm waiting on T-Track to arrive from Orange Aluminum which will be attached around the base.

I need to do some final sanding and have the 3 Festool paint colors ordered for the painting. When assembled, it still has a slight bit of wiggle. I'm going to cut 2 angle brases that will attach to the legs and bottom shelf to give added stability. those braces will also attach to the bottom of the frame when in storage to hold the legs and shelf in place. Looks like it will be Jan. before it's complete.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2020, 11:34 AM by GigaWatt »

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Offline johnredl

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Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2020, 06:02 PM »
That’s a pretty well made bench. Good to see that not everything revolves around 80/20. I’m in the process of designing a MFT that I’m planning on hanging off the back of my 150kg traditional woodworking bench. But mounting it to a traditional bench I was thinking of making it from wood instead of 80/20.

Good work

Offline Mortiser

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2020, 09:55 PM »
Nice work @GigaWatt . Like the way you thought through it. Thanks for sending along the pictures.

Offline jcrowe1950

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2020, 12:55 PM »
After 60 years of woodworking, I can no longer handle full sheets of plywood & mdf. I decided to completely change my method of working and consolidate all of my operations into my basement shop.
That brought me to the MFT which I actually started designing and building before before buying the above equipment. I looked at the Festool MFT, to much movement during use and the Dash-Board Bench, way to expensive for the amount of time I would use it. I considered using 80-20 for the frame like I did on my infeed-outfeed tables and my CNC; too expensive for the number of years I have left to work. I decided to go with a complete wood build.

The pics below is what I built. I'm going to fabricate 2 steel brackets that will attach to the shop wall to support the MFT when not in use. I have 4 small furniture dollies that I can move the MFT around the shop if needed. Most of the time it will stay in front of the wall location close to the DC connection. I'm waiting on T-Track to arrive from Orange Aluminum which will be attached around the base.

I need to do some final sanding and have the 3 Festool paint colors ordered for the painting. When assembled, it still has a slight bit of wiggle. I'm going to cut 2 angle brases that will attach to the legs and bottom shelf to give added stability. those braces will also attach to the bottom of the frame when in storage to hold the legs and shelf in place. Looks like it will be Jan. before it's complete.
   That's a very nice piece of work, and given your constraints, it's a great solution. I concur with your assessment of the MFT as too wobbly for some applications.....I tried once to do some hand planing and it was not appropriate. Your solution looks possibly a bit heavier than the MFT. I also can relate about the handling of sheet goods. For my applications, loading the sheet goods right out of the truck onto a temporary cutting station for initial breakdown makes a ton of sense.....The use of a track saw and parallel guides makes that solution safe and efficient. If it's not too much trouble, can you post pictures of the finished product?
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Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2020, 01:06 PM »
Thats a very fine solution.  Looks great!  Any idea what it weighs ?

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2020, 07:31 PM »
jcrowe1950, I will certainly post more pictures as I complete the project. Hopefully my paint will arrive tomorrow.

Rick, Haven't weighed at this time, waiting until it's complete. There is 3/4 of a sheet of 3/4" BB Plywood and about 5/8 sheet of 3/4" mdf, so it's not light. Good thing is weight=stability.

Timed assembly today, took 3 minutes to setup.

Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2020, 11:45 PM »
Rick, Haven't weighed at this time, waiting until it's complete. There is 3/4 of a sheet of 3/4" BB Plywood and about 5/8 sheet of 3/4" mdf, so it's not light. Good thing is weight=stability.

Hanging it on the wall is an excellent idea, just hope you don't make it so you can't lift it ..  :)

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2020, 02:17 PM »
I received the Festool paint colors today. I have table broken down, all the parts sanded, now I can get started priming and painting.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2020, 03:04 PM by GigaWatt »

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2020, 05:03 PM »
I like your bench - nicely thought out, and very well executed. I look forward to seeing when you’re done too.

Can you share where you found these parts and what the thread size is?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0867Q8GR4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I used 3/8" however they come in other sizes.

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2020, 10:16 AM »
Painting is complete. Now I'm ready to start mounting T-Track. This will likely have to wait till after Christmas. I have several gifts I need to build and very late in getting started!

Offline orsomagno

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2020, 04:36 PM »
Really like your build, Gigawatt. Me too I'm trying to rely only on wood for my MFT-style sysport-orwhatever.

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2020, 03:33 PM »
I haven't had much time to work on MFT however I did solve 2 problems. The table is solid when applying pressure from front to rear.
Side to side pressure caused some slight movement which I didn't like. I needed a brace to hold the legs and shelf in the base when stored, so I decided to use the same piece to correct the lateral movement. The table is now rock solid from all movement.

Now I need to build wall mount brackets for storage. I'm also still waiting on the DashBoard Hinge Plate which will hopefully arrive in late Dec.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2020, 03:36 PM by GigaWatt »

Offline WillB

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2020, 10:47 AM »
Wonderful build, thx for sharing...
I built mine with two half inch sheets of High density MDF for a 1" thick top
with a grid of supports below every 12", its rock solid, but certainly not portable.

Offline Bugsysiegals

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2020, 12:13 AM »
How do you like the Benchdogs fence?  While sitting taller does it have a lot of play to it?  If so, what about in the lower configuration?

Offline Rockhigh

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2020, 02:04 AM »
Great Build, I have a bench dog fence and it’s solid


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Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2020, 10:30 AM »
How do you like the Benchdogs fence?  While sitting taller does it have a lot of play to it?  If so, what about in the lower configuration?

The BenchDog Fence is rock solid in either the raised or lower position. The supplied dogs are VERY snug in the 20mm holes and they also are threaded to use knobs on the under side . This is a great product and well worth the money IMHO.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2021, 11:31 AM by GigaWatt »

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2020, 10:43 AM »
The DashBoard Guide Rail Bracket set arrived yesterday. I'm really impressed with it and the way it was packaged for shipment. It had a 3/16" plywood frame inside the cardboard box and all of the parts were wrapped in cardboard.

I woke up at 5am this morning thinking about the installation, so I got up and went to work installing the Orange Aluminum T-Track and the the hinge plate. It's a very well engineered and constructed system.

When I decide where I want my cut line I'm going to route a dado for an mdf insert.

The next project is to build some accessories to support cutoffs. After completion of this MFT I had intended to build another one 8' long. I've changed my plans and will build another identical table and place them end to end when needed. I think one 8' long would be to much for me to handle.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2020, 11:02 AM by GigaWatt »

Offline gatescarpentry

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2021, 01:59 PM »
Nice job on your table. Look at the track stars from dashboard too. They work nicely just like the cross cut set.


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Offline zoepup

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2021, 01:36 PM »
that is real nice.  What did you use for the track around the table?  It looks like the DashBoard Guide Rail Bracket set comes with just the brackets and no track

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2021, 01:53 PM »
that is real nice.  What did you use for the track around the table?  It looks like the DashBoard Guide Rail Bracket set comes with just the brackets and no track

Correct.

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2021, 05:26 PM »
that is real nice.  What did you use for the track around the table?  It looks like the DashBoard Guide Rail Bracket set comes with just the brackets and no track

I used T-Track from https://www.orangealuminum.com/t-tracks-and-accessories-oa7150.html

Offline nicholam77

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2021, 12:29 PM »
Just came to say great build! Love the construction and how it knocks down. And the colors  [big grin]

Seeing yours and a couple others' use of the Dashboard rail supports really make me wish I had gone that route. I tried to save some $$$ with the official Festool parts and am disappointed in the precision for the price -- all the bits have a lot of play in them.

Looking forward to seeing what you have in mind for the offcut supports.
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Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build-Update
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2021, 12:16 PM »
After spending the entire winter working on other projects, I finally got back to build accessories for my MFT. Since my workshop is in my basement, I try to keep dust to a minimum. The dust spray you get at the end of a cut adds up to quite a bit of dust to clean up after cutting numerous boards, so I built a box to connect to my DC to catch this. I also built a saw holder to make it more convenient to set the saw out of the way after use. I need to mount additional T-Track to the ends of the bench for the saw holder and cut off supports.

All of these parts of the parts were designed in DraftSight and cut out on my CNC Router.

After painting these, I'm going to start on cutoff supports.

Offline dashboardpws

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2021, 03:07 PM »
Love the dust collection innovation!

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2021, 05:58 PM »
Good stuff!

What do they call that countersunk washer shaped nut that holds the leg bolt in the last pic? Did it come with the small screw holes?

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2021, 06:32 PM »
Good stuff!

What do they call that countersunk washer shaped nut that holds the leg bolt in the last pic? Did it come with the small screw holes?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0867Q8GR4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&p;sc=1
They don't supply the small screw.

Offline GigaWatt

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2021, 11:58 AM »
After contemplating building cutoff supports for my MFT, I decided to buy the Universal Track Star from Dash-Board. After receiving them, I'm glad I made the purchase. As with their other accessories, they are built with very high quality materials and extreme precision. All the adjustments slide smoothly and lock down tight. I especially like the Carbon Fiber veneer which protects the BB Plywood and gives a very slick surface.

Next I'll start working on the wall support brackets for storage of the MFT.

Offline nicholam77

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Re: Another DIY MFT Build
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2021, 12:25 PM »
How does cutoff support work with the Track Stars? Slide them to where your workpiece hangs off and clamp through one of the dog holes? If so that is pretty cool. I made some "extension wings" for my table but they take more effort to set up and level.
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Offline dashboardpws

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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2021, 02:38 PM »
Our Universal Track Stars™ have many uses and offcut support is only one. Soon we'll offer an adapter that will allow fences to be attached to them and increase the maximum cut capacity of most tables.