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Offline ssbothwell

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surfix questions
« on: March 27, 2015, 04:18 AM »
hi,

first post here. :)

i have used the surfix oil system a handful of times with decent results. however, i really dont feel confident i understand the process i am doing. i have a couple questions which i will list right here:

1) the instructions say to wait 15 minutes before buffing. should i buff after exactly 15 minutes regardless of what the work piece looks like? is the oil supposed to be wet, starting to dry, or totally dry when i buff?

2) how can i tell when the vlies pads are used up? are they still good to use if they are coated in wax? i'm attaching a photo of a pad after buffing 30 square feet of hard maple. is this pad trash?

3) what is the work piece supposed to look like immediately after buffing? how long do i buff the piece for? should it be wet, dry, sticky, something else?

4) is it okay to wait longer then 8 hours between coats or is that timing important?

thanks for any help,
solomon.

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Offline jobsworth

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2015, 05:12 AM »
This should help

Offline ssbothwell

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 03:04 PM »
cool video but it doesnt answer my questions exactly.

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 04:53 PM »
hi,

first post here. :)

i have used the surfix oil system a handful of times with decent results. however, i really dont feel confident i understand the process i am doing. i have a couple questions which i will list right here:

1) the instructions say to wait 15 minutes before buffing. should i buff after exactly 15 minutes regardless of what the work piece looks like? is the oil supposed to be wet, starting to dry, or totally dry when i buff?

2) how can i tell when the vlies pads are used up? are they still good to use if they are coated in wax? i'm attaching a photo of a pad after buffing 30 square feet of hard maple. is this pad trash?

3) what is the work piece supposed to look like immediately after buffing? how long do i buff the piece for? should it be wet, dry, sticky, something else?

4) is it okay to wait longer then 8 hours between coats or is that timing important?

thanks for any help,
solomon.

1) Anytime after 15 minutes but before the oil has cured/hardened. Usually 15-45 minutes open time. Either coat.

2) Pad can be covered and work fine. Run it across sand paper to deglaze it. I do this under power. Saturated is bad.

3) First coat, even dull. Very slightly damp for about 4 hours, tacky about 24 hours. Second coat buffed even, will be medium bright hand rubbed look.

4) I've had to wait up to 24 hours between coats. The more dense the wood the slower the cure. I've had the second coat take up to 4 days to harden/cure.

Tom

« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 04:55 PM by tjbnwi »

Offline Clweed

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 09:49 PM »
Tom,

Did you wait until completely dry between coats and sand to 320-400 before applying the second coat

Thanks,
Lee

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2015, 01:06 AM »
The majority will be dry. A slight tack does not hurt, uses more paper.

Tom

Offline Cheese

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2015, 11:03 AM »
 @ssbothwell
Thought you may be interested in these .pdf files. They're from the Festool website.



« Last Edit: December 31, 2016, 09:37 AM by Cheese »

Offline ssbothwell

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 01:49 AM »
sounds like i havent been waiting long enough between coats. i let it sit for 15 to 20 minutes and then immediately start hitting it with the green vlies. its often pretty wet still and the pads gunk up really fast. i should wait for it to be mostly dry before using the vlies pad?

Offline Stev0347

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2016, 07:47 PM »
Thanks, Cheese! These aren't available on the website here in the States...

Offline Cheese

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2016, 10:00 AM »
Thanks, Cheese! These aren't available on the website here in the States...

 [welcome] to the FOG @Stev0347 ...

I just added 2 other publications, (#1 & #4) that never made it to the original post for some reason.  [eek]

It would be nice if these type of brochures were available on the Festool website & on the FOG!

I've run across one on finishing, edge banding, automotive finishing, polishing wood etc. There seems to be a lot of them out there, unfortunately, they're not at a single location so it's catch-as-catch-can
« Last Edit: December 31, 2016, 10:02 AM by Cheese »

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: surfix questions
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2016, 10:27 AM »
@Cheese,

Thanks for the downloads. Give me something to read during my New Years celebration [smile]

Tom