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Offline Dollar Bill

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Guide Stop 492601
« on: January 17, 2021, 03:04 PM »
Does anyone know if the bottom of this item, once installed on a 1400 router, will be at the same level as the base of the router?

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Offline Frank-Jan

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2021, 03:35 PM »
Yes, I use it alot when using the edge guide, on the other side of the router as a table widener to easier balance it.

Offline Dollar Bill

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2021, 05:32 PM »
Yes, I use it alot when using the edge guide, on the other side of the router as a table widener to easier balance it.
I want to make sure I can do this before I spend $60 + tax on this tool. If I understand you correctly I can put both rods through the base as usual, put one of these guides on either side of the router (on the rods), and the router and both guides will rest on the work surface at the same time?

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2021, 11:45 AM »
Yes, but why would you want to? I'm not seeing the point of trying to use 2 rails with the router between them?
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Offline Dollar Bill

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2021, 05:48 PM »
Yes, but why would you want to? I'm not seeing the point of trying to use 2 rails with the router between them?
I want to come up with a creative way of making the router base larger by putting some real estate on both sides of the router. I am making a shallow bowl (6" diameter) using a bowl & tray bit and the base of the 1400 is too small. I'm not thrilled about making a shop-made base so...Doable in this manner?

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2021, 01:48 PM »
If you have the router "suspended" between to rails on the rods, it can't do anything but move ina straight line. How would this work on a bowl?
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Offline Dollar Bill

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2021, 07:51 AM »
If you have the router "suspended" between to rails on the rods, it can't do anything but move ina straight line. How would this work on a bowl?
I wouldn't be using rails. I would have the router on rods and I would use 1/2 of the guide stop on either side of the router. A bridge of sorts. The guide stop halfs would ride on top of the template as the bit cuts the workpiece. Would this work?

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2021, 06:19 PM »
I guess it would? but they really aren't intended for anything but riding on the rails. They are not all that flat on the bottom because they are normally just holding the router in relation to the rail and sliding on it.
What you are looking for is more like an "outrigger". I would think that this is something that is better built to fit the situation. Using a drill press to drill some holes into some wooden skis seems like a smoother approach.
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Offline Dollar Bill

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2021, 07:49 AM »
I guess it would? but they really aren't intended for anything but riding on the rails. They are not all that flat on the bottom because they are normally just holding the router in relation to the rail and sliding on it.
What you are looking for is more like an "outrigger". I would think that this is something that is better built to fit the situation. Using a drill press to drill some holes into some wooden skis seems like a smoother approach.
I did not realize this item is not flat on the bottom. I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and make a shop-made base. Thanks for your help.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2021, 05:52 PM »
No not at all. They can actually catch on a joint of a connected pair of rails. The saws (TS 55-TS 75) will glide right past the joint because the are smooth and flat on the bottom, plus there is nothing really trying to pull them off-line anyway. Routers are different in that respect. They are always pulling into the rotation of the bit. The guide stops are hollow, somewhat like an open top box, upside down. That leaves the "rim" to catch at the joint, since the bit is pulling against the rods.
This is one more reason for me to have longer rails, rather than connecting them. I used to connect my 1400 and 1080, but the issues I have had, the convenience of not having to travel with them, and the frequency of use, made it an easy decision.
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2021, 05:29 PM »
Here's a pic to better illustrate the bottoms of the guide stops. The one on the right is for the OF100 the other pair is for the OF1400.
The pic flips over when you enlarge it? that's wild
« Last Edit: January 27, 2021, 05:31 PM by Crazyraceguy »
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1400
MFK700
TS55, FS1080, FS1400 holey, FS1900, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)

Offline Dollar Bill

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Re: Guide Stop 492601
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2021, 08:23 AM »
Here's a pic to better illustrate the bottoms of the guide stops. The one on the right is for the OF100 the other pair is for the OF1400.
The pic flips over when you enlarge it? that's wild
I'm making a larger base as we speak. I purchased a piece of 12X12X1/4 acrylic and some longer screws (M4X.7X12mm). We'll see what happens.