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Offline fshanno

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Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« on: October 28, 2021, 05:40 PM »
Has anyone done it?  If so how long ago?

I made a nice 30" pocket door.  But that's in no way the same, it just hangs from the top.

I'm using mahogany so it won't be terribly heavy.   I can make the mortise as wide and as long as I want with multiple plunges but I can only make it 27mm deep.  Not very deep for an entry door is it?
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Offline Lincoln

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2021, 05:42 PM »
No, not suitable for an entry door. Need much more penetration than 27mm.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2021, 06:21 PM »
I really don't see why not? I have done a few interior doors and one huge rolling door in the old shop.
No problems/failures in any of them. These all have stable (Plywood) panels that are glued in to the frames/grooves.
Would they be ok with floating panels? I don't know.
Would they stand up to a break-in? I don't know, but in normal use, they are fine. As far as a break-in, I guess it would depend on the strength of the jamb too. If the door is stronger than the jamb, good enough. Then again, this may not be a big priority.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2021, 06:31 PM »
This is the Festool UK recommendation...size 14 mm so by default, the minimum depth would be 100 mm.


Offline ChuckS

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2021, 06:36 PM »
For big doors subject to heavy use, you need much deeper mortises. Is this a one-off door project that you don't want to invest in a DF700?

If so, you can mill the mortises with you DF500, and then deepen the mortises with a simple shop-made jig:

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/df500-domino-deepening-jig-(8mm-10mm)/msg582546/#msg582546

Or simply buy a cheap commercial drilling guide (see image).

Depending on the thickness, twin dominoes will also add strength to the joint.

For dominoes, you can make your own, or buy the ones for the DF700.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2021, 06:51 PM by ChuckS »

Offline guybo

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2021, 06:51 PM »
Hi, I have been thinking this might be what I want, bit pricey, better than the 700.Be handy when needed https://www.woodpeck.com/morty-loose-tenon-jig.html

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2021, 06:57 PM »
The WP loose tenon jig may be more versatile but is way too slow compared to a Domino Joiner (500 or XL).

Offline guybo

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2021, 07:24 PM »
The WP loose tenon jig may be more versatile but is way too slow compared to a Domino Joiner (500 or XL).
True I would only be buying for 10(deeper than 50mm),12,and 14mm when needed

Offline squall_line

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2021, 07:37 PM »
The WP loose tenon jig may be more versatile but is way too slow compared to a Domino Joiner (500 or XL).
True I would only be buying for 10(deeper than 50mm),12,and 14mm when needed

If you already have the router and don't need it before the end of the year, it seems like a pretty good jig.

There was some discussion about alternatives, including Peter Millard's jig, Rockler's beadlock joinery kit, and others, in this thread earlier this year:

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/other-tools-accessories/woodpeckers-morty-loose-tenon-jig-66567/

Offline fshanno

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Re: Entry doors with a Domino 500?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2021, 08:04 PM »
I really don't see why not? I have done a few interior doors and one huge rolling door in the old shop.
No problems/failures in any of them. These all have stable (Plywood) panels that are glued in to the frames/grooves.
Would they be ok with floating panels? I don't know.
Would they stand up to a break-in? I don't know, but in normal use, they are fine. As far as a break-in, I guess it would depend on the strength of the jamb too. If the door is stronger than the jamb, good enough. Then again, this may not be a big priority.

What was the construction? 4 rails with mid stiles, 1 3/8 thick?  What was your domino pattern?  10x50's?
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