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Offline Philr99

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Bent loft ladder using domino
« on: August 01, 2022, 05:32 PM »
Hi,
I want to make a bent loft ladder. The ladder itself is at 12 degrees and at the top I want to put vertical handrails. After a lot of reading I'm wondering if the domino would be the correct tool to join this angle.
Many thanks
Phil

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Offline ChuckS

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Re: Bent loft ladder using domino
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2022, 06:10 PM »
If your question is about whether the DF can do angled joinery for a ladder, then the answer is yes:
« Last Edit: August 01, 2022, 06:26 PM by ChuckS »

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Bent loft ladder using domino
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2022, 07:26 PM »
Absolutely. It may take some creative fixturing to position it properly, but it is very possible.
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Offline ear3

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Re: Bent loft ladder using domino
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2022, 07:14 AM »
@Philr99 I posted about a domino jig for doing a ladder a few years ago if you're curious: https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/domino-ladder-jig

Hi,
I want to make a bent loft ladder. The ladder itself is at 12 degrees and at the top I want to put vertical handrails. After a lot of reading I'm wondering if the domino would be the correct tool to join this angle.
Many thanks
Phil
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Offline Philr99

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Re: Bent loft ladder using domino
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2022, 01:31 PM »
Many thanks for the information. It looks like you made a lovely ladder. My application is a little different. At the top of the ladder, in your case 14.5 degrees, I want to go an end to end joint to a piece that would be vertical. This would be for handholds at the top of a loft ladder. I'm not sure how many tenons to use in a 1x4 or 1x6 piece and the size and depth to use? I expect the force of the extended handholds to be from the sides as people transfer onto and off of the ladder. Any thoughts?
Many thanks,
Phil

Offline Willy Eckerslike

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Re: Bent loft ladder using domino
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2022, 04:15 AM »
Have you considered a securely fixed floor to ceiling pole in the loft?

Offline luvmytoolz

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Re: Bent loft ladder using domino
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2022, 05:54 AM »
@Philr99 I posted about a domino jig for doing a ladder a few years ago if you're curious: https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/domino-ladder-jig


Don't want to offend anyone, but can I point out that even though it's a child's ladder, in my opinion building a ladder like this is very unsafe, the steps should be set into at a least a shallow dado so the thin timber around the dominos doesn't break.

Offline Packard

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Re: Bent loft ladder using domino
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2022, 04:00 PM »
It is not clear to me if you are referring to a real ladder (for climbing) or some decorative ladder for displaying objects. 

For climbing, I favor dadoes. 

Dadoes excel at one function only:  Carrying axial compressive loads when the horizontal board is supported at both ends. 

But that is exactly the type of load that a climbing ladder requires and is likely the reason almost all wood ladders are made with dadoes. 

But they usually include a threaded rod to keep the vertical members from spreading or some metal brackets that get screwed on to accomplish that same purpose.

This Old House has a pretty good How-to on this, and I have found most of the advice they give there is fairly solid.

https://www.thisoldhouse.com/home-offices/21017170/how-to-build-a-rolling-library-ladder